OT: Coronavirus XXI: School is Back in Session

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Drivesaitl

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I’ve rarely seen these anywhere since March. Where I have seen them is at two of the corner stores in my neighborhood. One store selling them for $10 and the other one for $9. These were $2-3 items at Walmart back in February. I thought this type of price gouging was illegal, guess I was wrong.

Multiple of East Indian stores in Millwoods have been selling Compliments brand Disinfecting wipes. Similar to the Lysol wipes and kills 99.9%. They are not on the shelves, sometimes a box of them is located near the cashier. Ask if they are for sale and they sell them for 6bucks at the stores we have gone to.

Shoppers Drug Mart has since July had occasionalstocks of Lysol spray and wipes and masks located behind the cashier. Not on the shelves. Just ask to buy if you see it. None of the stores are locating these directly on the shelves. By putting them next to cashier they minimize theft and also ensure one purchase per customer and also ensure cashiers don't oversell these as they are required to maintain enough supply for the cashiers own use. They sell excess they feel they do not require. We've stocked up on both of these supplies.

Really throughout the pandemic several sources have indicated that the stores have retained all the lysol wipes, spray, etc for their own instore use. They were basically stockpiling the stuff as prevention to maintain optimal wiping down, sanitizing the stores. Most of these places have excess now. If one really wants this stuff ask a sales staff or manager if you can buy any. Most stores have it stocked in the back.

heh, all this stuff will be on sale towards the end of the pandemic..
 

Sensmileletsgo

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Ontario forcing a lot of non-essential businesses to close for 28 days. What are the chances these businesses are actually allowed to open in 28 days? With schools and everything else allowed to remain open, it seems unlikely the case numbers come back down.
 

MaxR11

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Haven't they learned their lesson from the other spin class? I bet there are way more "outbreaks" at workout places like this that just go unrecorded because people just don't go and get tested and that may account partly for the many "unknown" infection origin cases.

Nearly 50 coronavirus cases linked to outbreak at Hamilton spin studio

"Nonetheless, gyms such as SPINCO are considered higher-risk sites for COVID-19 transmission," Durlov said.
"The province has made further restrictions for gyms in areas with high rates of COVID (Toronto, Ottawa, Peel) for that reason. We continue to work with SPINCO to determine the cause. Given gyms are higher-risk sites for transmission because of the aerobic activity, enclosed spaces and other features, we may not know exactly how the virus was spread."

In a statement issued on Saturday, the owners of the SPINCO franchise said they are "absolutely devastated" by the outbreak.
"Our community and city means everything to us and we express our sincere apology to all those that have been impacted," the statement said.
 

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The initial lockdown was very necessary to limit spread while setting up a testing and contact tracing apparatus. Successive lockdowns need to be avoided as far as possible. There comes a point where the only method of controlling the virus is to send people home and keep them there for a while, but if we get to that point NOW, someone f***ed up.

I don't think Alberta is there yet but people need to be smarter. Stay out of bars. Order takeout instead of eating in. Wear your damn masks.
 
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MaxR11

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The initial lockdown was very necessary to limit spread while setting up a testing and contact tracing apparatus. Successive lockdowns need to be avoided as far as possible. There comes a point where the only method of controlling the virus is to send people home and keep them there for a while, but if we get to that point NOW, someone f***ed up.

I don't think Alberta is there yet but people need to be smarter. Stay out of bars. Order takeout instead of eating in. Wear your damn masks.

Total agree, I would not want lockdowns either... if anything I wish the numbers were lower so I can friggin get back playing some safe hockey/go to the gym.

Ya, stay out of bars, don't gather irresponsibly, don't have workouts available where you're asking for trouble etc (ie spin classes in a small studio--so stupid!).
 

MaxR11

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Ya and? Cases were bound to go up when things opened up

So why are people still blaming this phantom "lockdown" on the woes of society? Point is if the cases keep rising, there might very well be another lockdown. Why can't people be more responsible. Keep case counts lower.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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So why are people still blaming this phantom "lockdown" on the woes of society? Point is if the cases keep rising, there might very well be another lockdown. Why can't people be more responsible. Keep case counts lower.
Lock down again and yes cases will down but it will delay the next wave and cases will go up when we open up again
And around and around we go
 

MaxR11

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Lock down again and yes cases will down but it will delay the next wave and cases will go up when we open up again
And around and around we go

Possibly. At this point I'd just like for people to not be stupid so we can ease back into normality with minimal to moderate amounts of cases. Unfortunately the few that are stupid are causing the rest of us grief. Lots of things can be done and not restricted if people just follow rules and be very cautious. At LEASt 11% of positive cases going around doing their thing while symptomatic is a big problem.
 

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Possibly. At this point I'd just like for people to not be stupid so we can ease back into normality with minimal to moderate amounts of cases. Unfortunately the few that are stupid are causing the rest of us grief. Lots of things can be done and not restricted if people just follow rules and be very cautious. At LEASt 11% of positive cases going around doing their thing while symptomatic is a big problem.
Unfortunately the majority of people are ...not exactly geniuses and no amount of reasoning will change that. So I guess we bounce between shutdowns of varying types.

I mean we're still arguing masks...and also whether the earth is flat
 
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The initial lockdown was very necessary to limit spread while setting up a testing and contact tracing apparatus. Successive lockdowns need to be avoided as far as possible. There comes a point where the only method of controlling the virus is to send people home and keep them there for a while, but if we get to that point NOW, someone f***ed up.oh and stop this mask stuff lol it makes zero difference whether you wear one or not. Cases will go up and down mask or no
Mask. In fact cases skyrocketed after mask mandate lol.lol .its all for show and symbolism pretending your actually protecting others. You can stay home and stay out of restaurants and bars but I would rather support these businesses and staff that have suffered from the Wuhan flu pandemic

I don't think Alberta is there yet but people need to be smarter. Stay out of bars. Order takeout instead of eating in. Wear your damn masks.
Stay out of bars,?? There is zero evidence that the case spike has to do with bars. They have guidelines and restrictions in bars. Stay the heck home if you are vulnerable . Most of these bar owners are doing their best to follow guidelines and it is their livelihood as well as the staff. All this bull about bars being high risk when the evidence points to other places and gatherings has higher risk. But in the end we are talking about a virus so very harmless to the vast majority. Time to just learn to live with it and stop crazy lockdowns that do nothing but ruin people's livelihoods. Oh and why you telling people not to support businesses that have suffered from the Wuhan flu pandemic. Sorry but it is very safe to go to restaurants and bars and I choose to support those businesses. And as far as masks? Lol its all symbolism and for show, it helps nothing. Cases go up and down mask or no mask. In fact cases skyrocketed since face diapers were mandated .
 
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Stoneman89

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So why are people still blaming this phantom "lockdown" on the woes of society? Point is if the cases keep rising, there might very well be another lockdown. Why can't people be more responsible. Keep case counts lower.
I think by and large, in Alberta, we are doing a pretty good job. Don't forget, they are testing way more now, schools are in session and we're smack dab in the middle of flu season as it is. Yes, there are fools that fall all over themselves in bars and private gatherings, but everywhere I go publicly, I see strong adherence to all the things we need to do. The main thing to do now is to manage the virus, since it isn't going away anytime soon, and vaccines aren't just around the corner, as many on here would suggest.
 
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LaGu

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Does anyone believe what these people say anymore?
They said more or less the same thing in April. That if countries/people are able to trust and follow certain guidelines (hygiene, distance) then lockdowns would not be necessary. If the spread is out of control though then obviously someone had to push the panic button, see Italy, New York, Spain, UK.
 
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