OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19): Part V

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The restaurant lobby got Congress to expand the definition of "small business." Then many big chains made a business decision to apply for relief and still furlough employees because the penalty is cheaper than a private loan. The banks that distributed the relief quickly ran out of their allotted share which left many true small business owners out of luck.
 
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Hard-hitting journalism right here.

I'm hazarding a guess that if you're exposed enough to somebody for them to fart on you, you were getting it anyway.
In summary, those who wear underpants are helping flatten the curve and those who go commando are irresponsible. The risk grows exponentially higher as the weather becomes more humid.
 
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The restaurant lobby got Congress to expand the definition of "small business." Then many big chains made a business decision to apply for relief and still furlough employees because the penalty is cheaper than a private loan. The banks that distributed the relief quickly ran out of their allotted share which left many true small business owners out of luck.
Seems kind of like if it was really aimed at aiding actual small businesses, they would have limited the max amount in a loan to less than 10M.
 
I am not disregarding anyone. I am stating my views. You can more than entitled to yours and can voice them. Another thing of beauty about this country.

My notion had nothing to do with not helping people. I live in the real world. And it is a dangerous place. Therefore to me, reducing military bases in this day and age in a nonstarter.

As for the way that I feel, that comes from experiencing life outside of the US. And not on vacation. And frankly, who is stopping any discourse? I do not recall suggesting any such thing.
We all live in the real world. A major reason European countries can afford liberal social policies is because we're basically footing their defense bills. We don't need to anymore with the Soviet Union gone. At the very least we can shore up the finances of Medicare and social security.
 
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I am not disregarding anyone. I am stating my views. You can more than entitled to yours and can voice them. Another thing of beauty about this country.

My notion had nothing to do with not helping people. I live in the real world. And it is a dangerous place. Therefore to me, reducing military bases in this day and age in a nonstarter.

As for the way that I feel, that comes from experiencing life outside of the US. And not on vacation. And frankly, who is stopping any discourse? I do not recall suggesting any such thing.
You say that, but every little thing is a nonstarter.

You say it's not perfect, but every suggestion is "this is how it works."

Sounds to me like you think it is perfect.
 
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In summary, those who wear underpants are helping flatten the curve and those who go commando are irresponsible. The risk grows exponentially higher as the weather becomes more humid.
And not the risk of the virus; the risk of passing out when somebody rips one on the bus.
 
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I have an MBA from a top five school in finance, worked as an I-banker in my 20s, and now provide outsourced CFO consulting to early stage companies...

...in order to finance my dream of writing fantasy novels.

And I agree with you.


Thank you. With the stigma there is about artists, and comments that have been made towards myself and fellow artists in the past being taken seriously sometimes is a sore subject for me. As hard of a life it can be (and it really is right now) I wouldnt change it for anything. Best of luck writing those novels

If and when you are ready for a cover illustration I know a guy ;)
 
It is far from every man for themselves. You and I have a fundamental belief in what is and what is not possible.

If you are waiting for it to be truly safe, you will be waiting for a long, long time. This is here to stay. They cannot develop a vaccine for the cold, but a vaccine for this is right around the corner?

Where you and I differ is that I believe that you can take the cure too far to the point that there is no jump starting the economy. I also believe that a 35% unemployment rate means that breadlines are not far off. It is a completely unsustainable rate for the country to carry. Small businesses are the backbone of this country. And it is not in their design to function on social distancing.

This not a matter of thinking of who is or is not immune and feeling like superman. But my responsibility is to provide for my family. As it is for a lot of other people. And if you are not allowed to do that, the demonstrations will only continue.

You keep using the term "forcing". I think that we see two different groups of people. I know that that do not have a paycheck that would spring to get to work tomorrow.


Do I think the government needs to open up at some point, and take some mitigated risks to jump start the economy? sure. But I don't see an opportunity for mitigated risks for select businesses and workers at this time, maybe in a month or two. We need to have a reduction in cases before we even talk about opening things up.

But again, people should not be making the choice should I put my health and families health at risk so I can pay rent/pay my mortgage and bills. That choice is a non starter for me, because those less fortunate are going to be the ones that will likely have to go back to work via necessity and thus the highest risk of getting sick. And a society that values its less fortunate as expendable in a crisis like this is not a moral and ethical society to me. Those that are less fortunate have the RIGHT to return to work in a reasonably safe environment where they are not putting their health at risk to earn a meager paycheck so others can go shopping, going to movies, playing golf, going to the gym and engaging in commerce. And if it is not reasonably safe, they should be protected and compensated so we do not lose our homes and lives until it is reasonably safe.

Our government needs to have some sort of compensation for people so they can stay home until there is a reduction in cases and allow people to make hard choices for themselves about going back to work without feeling they have to to pay their bills.

you repeatedly talk about how we cannot do X,Y,Z. But other countries are doing those exact things, why are we incapable of doing what Italy has done and suspend mortgage payments? Why can't we give people 2K a month like Canada is doing for its citizens? Why cant we test like South Korea? Why is every major industrial country testing better and providing for its citizens better than ours? Id love to hear your answer for this, because for me, our government and many people living in it do not have the level of empathy and care required to support and care for those less fortunate.

We have the largest economy in the world, the global economy basically runs on the US dollar. I never said it will not cost a lot, but the idea that every other nation has figured out a way to help its citizens better than ours and your only answer is "it cannot be done" If America is so great, why can't it even take care of its own people?
 


The new date for the first confirmed death is February 6th. Previously it was February 29th. They talk about the first case was January 21st. Was it sooner than that? That case was also west coast, but nowhere near each other, about the difference between NYC and North Carolina.

I have a suspicion that respiratory deaths in January and February are largely from COVID. Yes, the flu kills, but a thorough examination of these types of deaths should be explored, and it needs to happen now.

It can really help with also knowing how many people were potentially infected. Asymptomatic rates could go up, and the death rate could drop. Yes, we'll need antibody testing to truly know, but pieces can be put together to gain a picture on who is already past this.

If this is a thing that will reoccur in the fall, knowing the duration, from beginning to end will help with how it will need to potentially be handled then.
 
We all live in the real world. A major reason European countries can afford liberal social policies is because we're basically footing their defense bills. We don't need to anymore with the Soviet Union gone. At the very least we can shore up the finances of Medicare and social security.

Great point
 
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