Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part XII

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Yes...how stupid of me to think a person who actually studies how virus and other pathogens along with everything else EVOLVE would know anything about this subject. Your 'whataboutism' is too much. Who exactly is allowed to speak on this subject besides an epidemiologist?

I, for one thing, in my original post NEVER said I agreed with anti-vaxxers....but yet you think I am one...it's funny how quick people are to attack when they sense something.

Please spare us the victim rant

Evolutionary biology is a very broad field. Being an "expert" in something doesn't mean it translates to other areas (i.e. medicine, clinical trials, etc). This guy has no idea what he is talking about in terms of immunology and vaccine safety. He is not reliable in any sense of the word.

Quite frankly, I didn't label you as an antivaxer (I had no clue). But you're spreading misinformation, and that's the problem here
 
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Makes no sense to shutdown Toronto and Peel but leave the nearby regions open. The ramps to the 400 at the 401 were backed up this weekend. Either people were going to their cottages or york region IMO.

Bingo.

My wife works retail in York Region and that they were getting people from all surrounding shutdown regions -- Brampton, Toronto, Barrie...

Open everything up with restrictions and have people disperse amongst all these locations. To allow and cram people into one centralized region just makes things worse. And I don't think lockdowns are going to work much longer -- if you continue to take away people's ability to do stuff for longer periods, the more we'll see situations like this. Whereas keep things open continuously, and the urge and desire just to get out won't be as high, nor at all at once.
 
Bingo.

My wife works retail in York Region and that they were getting people from all surrounding shutdown regions -- Brampton, Toronto, Barrie...

Open everything up with restrictions and have people disperse amongst all these locations. To allow and cram people into one centralized region just makes things worse. And I don't think lockdowns are going to work much longer -- if you continue to take away people's ability to do stuff for longer periods, the more we'll see situations like this. Whereas keep things open continuously, and the urge and desire just to get out won't be as high, nor at all at once.

Agreed. IMO people are sick and tired off being lockdown and more fustrated when they see the numbers not continuing to decline. We needed to roll out the vaccines faster but Trudeau blew that.

Amazing what the UK has done since they started vaccinating in mid December. They went from the high 60Ks to 4+K today.
 
Metro Toronto has a population of 6.2 million. It is metro toronto which is shutdown.

Google population of metro Toronto then google a map of metro Toronto. Peel does have a population of 1.5 million. Actually peel region is in much worse shape than Toronto when you look at incidence rate per 100,000, yet their mayor is advocating for red zone

Subtract York region from 6.2, and more like just under 5 million.
 
In GTA/Peel we are getting a couple hundred kids a day (with only 5% testing) with virus at schools which have been opened a couple weeks now ... bottom line it is far worse then that if they did da rapid test at each school ... again we are doing this crap to ourselves it is so so obvious ... but we will throw da small businesses under da bus again as results worsen in 3rd wave ... wait and see ... da whole thing is a complete joke with people trying to force schools to stay open

Care to show those numbers? They did 4500 tests in Ontario schools and have 57 positives. All asymptotic. So where are you getting your info?
 
Metro Toronto has a population of 6.2 million. It is metro toronto which is shutdown.

Google population of metro Toronto then google a map of metro Toronto. Peel does have a population of 1.5 million. Actually peel region is in much worse shape than Toronto when you look at incidence rate per 100,000, yet their mayor is advocating for red zone

Metro Toronto does not have a population of 6.2M lol. Metro Toronto means GTA hahaha, come on man. Before roasting me can you use google to see the differences.

Toronto at a Glance

Toronto itself is 2.9M

Metro Toronto means GTA which includes the City of Toronto and the regional municipalities of Durham, Halton, Peel, and York.

And I can tell you for sure that Halton, York, Durham are open
 
Metro Toronto does not have a population of 6.2M lol. Metro Toronto means GTA hahaha, come on man. Before roasting me can you use google to see the differences.

Toronto at a Glance

Toronto itself is 2.9M

Metro Toronto means GTA which includes the City of Toronto and the regional municipalities of Durham, Halton, Peel, and York.

And I can tell you for sure that Halton, York, Durham are open
You are incorrect. As I said Metro Toronto has. 6.2 google it? google metro toronto boundaries. Metro Toronto does not mean GTA. You are using city of Toronto. Well it is metro toronto which is one unit for these colour coded zones.
 
You are incorrect. As I said Metro Toronto has. 6.2 google it? google metro toronto boundaries. Metro Toronto does not mean GTA. You are using city of Toronto. Well it is metro toronto which is one unit for these colour coded zones.

what number do you see on the highway coming from York into Toronto on the 400, QEW between Mississauga and Etobicoke, 401 from Pickering. 2.9M

Also if Toronto has 6.2M plus Peel 1.5M, plus York 1.1M plus Durham 700K, Halton 550K, KW 700K, Windsor 500K, Hamilton 750K, Niagara 400K, Ottawa 1M, London 500K, Northern Ontario 1.1M, Barrie 150K, plus tons others like Kingston, Belleville, Peterborough, Owen Sound, Haldimand-Norfolk then Ontario has a lot more than 14M hahah

Edit: what Number do you get when you add Toronto, Peel, Halton, York and Durham. Weird its close to your 6.2-6.7M number, odd isnt it


By the way your using Metro Toronto wrong. In 1998 they amalgamated. So a quick google could have helped you. Etobicoke has 360K people, North York 800K, York 145K, Old Toronto 797K, East York 181K Scarborough 630K
 
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what number do you see on the highway coming from York into Toronto on the 400, QEW between Mississauga and Etobicoke, 401 from Pickering. 2.9M

Also if Toronto has 6.2M plus Peel 1.5M, plus York 1.1M plus Durham 700K, Halton 550K, KW 700K, Windsor 500K, Hamilton 750K, Niagara 400K, Ottawa 1M, London 500K, Northern Ontario 1.1M, Barrie 150K, plus tons others like Kingston, Belleville, Peterborough, Owen Sound, Haldimand-Norfolk then Ontario has a lot more than 14M hahah

the sign you are talking about refers to the city of Toronto. Here is the map of Metro Toronto. The city is sectioned off in the middle.
Metro Toronto is Grey today as which includes the city. Metro has 6.2 million people. Do the math borough by borough. York and east york are not labelled but they are outlined as is the city of Toronto.
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the sign you are talking about refers to the city of Toronto. Here is the map of Metro Toronto. The city is sectioned off in the middle.
Metro Toronto is Grey today as which includes the city.
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breakdown of population for those former 6 regions. By the way your using Metro Toronto wrong. In 1998 they amalgamated. So a quick google could have helped you. Etobicoke has 360K people, North York 800K, York 145K, Old Toronto 797K, East York 181K Scarborough 630K which drumroll please is nowhere close to 6.2M

If your not from the GTA though I can see why it would be confusing. Metro Toronto was a term used pre 1998 to accurately describe Old Toronto. Since then however the term has fallen away and I honestly haven't heard it again until today. Most residents along the western shores of Lake Ontario use GTA to describe "Metro Toronto" the same way Americans use Metro Chicago, the Buffalo Metro area ect... so if your not from the GTA or even Golden Horseshoe google would be confusing.
 
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breakdown of population for those former 6 regions. By the way your using Metro Toronto wrong. In 1998 they amalgamated. So a quick google could have helped you. Etobicoke has 360K people, North York 800K, York 145K, Old Toronto 797K, East York 181K Scarborough 630K which drumroll please is nowhere close to 6.2M

If your not from the GTA though I can see why it would be confusing
Scarborough 632,000
Etobicoke 365,000
North York 869,000
East York 145,000
York 120,000
CITY of Toronto 2.93 million
Total Metro Toronto 6.2 million

If you are new to the area I understand the confusion. Carry on
 
Scarborough 632,000
Etobicoke 365,000
North York 869,000
East York 145,000
York 120,000
CITY of Toronto 2.93 million
Total Metro Toronto 6.2 million

If your not from the GTA though I can see why it would be confusing. Metro Toronto was a term used pre 1998 to accurately describe Old Toronto. Since then however the term has fallen away and I honestly haven't heard it again until today. Most residents along the western shores of Lake Ontario use GTA to describe "Metro Toronto" the same way Americans use Metro Chicago, the Buffalo Metro area ect... so if your not from the GTA or even Golden Horseshoe google would be confusing.
 
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Scarborough 632,000
Etobicoke 365,000
North York 869,000
East York 145,000
York 120,000
CITY of Toronto 2.93 million
Total Metro Toronto 6.2 million

If you are new to the area I understand the confusion. Carry on

also that doesnt equal 6.2M?
 
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Scarborough 632,000
Etobicoke 365,000
North York 869,000
East York 145,000
York 120,000
CITY of Toronto 2.93 million
Total Metro Toronto 6.2 million

If you are new to the area I understand the confusion. Carry on

Ive lived in Mississauga and now Hamilton my entire life. Even your own math doesnt make sense haha
 
also that doesnt equal 6.2M?
I'm going by memory. I'm not searching again each area in the 6 has a population. Add them all up it is far greater than 2.93 million. I choose to believe the google stats when I search population of metro Toronto.
 
I'm going by memory. I'm not searching again each area in the 6 ha a population. Add them all up it is far greater than 2.93 million. I choose to believe the google stats when I search population of metro Toronto.

haha okay but when you google Metro Toronto population it literally says 5.928M and it says GTA and to the right it has a link to GTA wiki, along with Metro Montreal 4.099M below it in the graph
 
haha okay but when you google Metro Toronto population it literally says 5.928M and it says GTA and to the right it has a link to GTA wiki, along with Metro Montreal 4.099M below it in the graph

The current metro area population of Toronto in 2021 is 6,255,000, a 0.94% increase from 2020.

Alright man I'm done. we really sidetracked this thread. I apologize to all

Edit toadd your number 5.98 is from 2016
 
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The current metro area population of Toronto in 2021 is 6,255,000, a 0.94% increase from 2020.

Alright man I'm done. we really sidetracked this thread. I apologize to all

Edit toadd your number 5.98 is from 2016

Meh, this is the most fact based debate this thread has seen in weeks haha. I enjoy a good debate and I appreciate the fact we both had data to support. I believe we are most likely confusing terminology and methodology and hence why both of us have facts to support the claim.
 
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^ Seems like arguing just for the sake of arguing. The guy said 6.2. The number might be closer to 5.9. In the grand scheme of why this was brought up in the first place, does the 300 k difference really matter? :dunno:
 
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Care to show those numbers? They did 4500 tests in Ontario schools and have 57 positives. All asymptotic. So where are you getting your info?
CP24 news this morning on TV in Mississauga ... 36 schools are closed down due to infestation ... but numbers are a joke because as they reported only 5% of schools are getting test kits ... and no tests at one particular school in Mississauga with da SA variant outbreak where a condo was isolated for 1 day ... I really wonder why that school did not get da rapid test kit?????????????????????????????
 
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