Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part VIII - The Long Winter is Here

[ULF_55]

Give people the choice and see what might happen.

See Alberta.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Lots of interesting stats in here for anyone interested.


Government data shows lockdowns more deadly than COVID-19 | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I am surprised how much I miss going to concerts and sporting events. The Bills are finally good after having season tickets for years when they sucked!!

I miss going to a pub and watching some band continue their dream of one day making it!!

Man, some of you dream big.

I miss a simple handshake and not having the feeling people seeing it think you just caught the cooties. Hugging someone without pause. Not being forced to sanitize my hands before buying a toy for my kids.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

they never went out and socialised to begin with

Guilty.

I'm not anti-social, just selectively social.

 

[hfman]

Also, lots of people in this topic also clearly have nothing and have nothing to lose and don't give a flying fadoo what's happening to others. They think they're the compassionate ones saving lives too.

the " yes please put me under more restrictions" crowd are the ones likely with no kids to worry about their futures and also the ones who never went out to socialise with friends in the first place. Keeping me locked up is okay, because I rarely ever stepped outside the house to begin with

THESE are the types that are unquestionably supporting mask use and eternal restrictions on our everyday lives... got nothing to lose from a social standpoint

 

[Crazy Monkey]

Yes. I'm certain that will happen and I don't see the problem with that.

I'm certain that it will not. Because we already have a yearly flu vaccine. Completely different situation. We need to suck it up for now and wear a mask/distance, but it's not a forever thing

 

[Muston Atthews]

Was there decades of science claiming that seatbelts are NOT necessary and effective? Then the science changed overnight once seatbelts became a political issue in America during an election year?

So you’re completely fine with wearing masks indoors for the rest of your life?

 

[Muston Atthews]

Walking monsters? What does that even mean?

Here's a pro-tip. If you want to convince people to believe what you believe, don't say ridiculous things that don't make sense.

If you only read some of the posters in this thread, you'd think all businesses are locked down and the government is trapping us all in our homes a gunpoint.

I don't know about you guys, but my life is basically unchanged except for having to wear a mask when I go out. I don't even get wtf these guys are whining about. Basically everything is open.

 

[francis246]

I truly wish they do. And I know they did a complete 180 within days of announcing the likely extension. But I’m not convinced anymore with these new rules — a runny nose requires a COVID test?! Yikes.

What happened at Thorncliffe Park with the rapid tests and discovering all those positive tests was a game changer IMO. Although, I have thought, seeing that, I’m certain way more people have had COVID and had no clue (as in, felt no affects).

lol Thorncliffe Park is in one of the hottest spots in Toronto. That is why the tests were done there. Even still, the report showed most of the positive tests were asymptomatic. Also it was a small percentage of students who tested positive.

The fact of the matter is, there are probably a ton of people who are asymptomatic carriers of the disease. But the truth is, we don’t fully understand this virus or how it spreads. People always want to blame something. I’m not sure why schools are being targeted when the safety protocols at schools are very strict and better than a lot of other places.

 

[Stigma]

most people in this topic have never done any of these things in their entire lives. That's why they are cool with wearing a mask and "social distancing" forever: it won't stop them from going out and socialising because they never went out and socialised to begin with

LOL

I think there's some truth to that. The biggest "we-need-to-stay-home-forever" friend of mine owns a small mansion in Oakville with an amazing backyard. No kids, loves working from home, no more commuting to Toronto. Also, has a very small circle of friends and hates going out to things like sports and music events.

The other friend who is like that has a family, but is so indoctrinated with politics, that he has adopted the new and strange "not-questioning-anything-government-says" stance that modern progressivism has sort of morphed into.

 

[Mess]

The more the virus rages the more the shutdown/lockdowns will begin again, and the unlikelihood hockey returns to normalcy until players and all staff are all vaccinated.

 

[pylon17]

So you’re completely fine with wearing masks indoors for the rest of your life?

Define indoors.

 

[pylon17]

LOL

I think there's some truth to that. The biggest "we-need-to-stay-home-forever" friend of mine owns a small mansion in Oakville with an amazing backyard. No kids, loves working from home, no more commuting to Toronto. Also, has a very small circle of friends and hates going out to things like sports and music events.

The other friend who is like that has a family, but is so indoctrinated with politics, that he has adopted the new and strange "not-questioning-anything-government-says" stance that modern progressivism has sort of morphed into.

My experience is a little different I know of a straight laced individual who thinks the government is taking away their rights and freedoms and that there's no such thing as privacy anymore. The same person would also turn a blind eye towards the fact a government can withhold information on UFOs and extraterrestrials. Whether a person is really willing to think outside of the box is another question altogether. If you are so enlightened about things the government has or has not told us, think about how the aliens feel.

 

[stealth1]

the " yes please put me under more restrictions" crowd are the ones likely with no kids to worry about their futures and also the ones who never went out to socialise with friends in the first place. Keeping me locked up is okay, because I rarely ever stepped outside the house to begin with

THESE are the types that are unquestionably supporting mask use and eternal restrictions on our everyday lives... got nothing to lose from a social standpoint

I just want this to end and want to be able to travel to Cedar Point and other amusement parks by summer like I usually do. If that means wearing a mask and staying away from others so be it. This is coming from a guy with a kid. I still go out it eat a few times a month like I always have done.

I don't think we need lockdowns but some sort of restrictions should be in place til it gets under control. What really needs to happen is put more pressure on people having friends and family gatherings right now.

 

[SlpLessInMuskoka18]

I was super lucky to be at the last leafs game against Tampa as a Birthday gift.

I truly hope the nhl and other sports facilities adopt the new BioCloud device. Its basically going to be used as a real time screener that's 100% accurate and used in smaller spaces and rooms.

Mcdonalds was using it to screen employees before shifts in london ontario for example.




#safespaces

 

[Stigma]

My experience is a little different I know of a straight laced individual who thinks the government is taking away their rights and freedoms and that there's no such thing as privacy anymore. The same person would also turn a blind eye towards the fact a government can withhold information on UFOs and extraterrestrials. Whether a person is really willing to think outside of the box is another question altogether. If you are so enlightened about things the government has or has not told us, think about how the aliens feel.

Haha! Good point. We should all admit that we pick and choose our conspiracies to match our personality and outlook on life. If we were to be 100% completely open-minded and consistent with our line of thinking about everything, it would probably ruin our core identity and leave us feeling completely alienated.

 

[PromisedLand]

Flu is down because of Covid restrictions? Why?

first.
From Southern Hemisphere, Hints That U.S. May Be Spared Flu On Top Of COVID-19


Second,
With work from home, less inter-mingling (by some folks); social distancing, hand washing, giving hygine more importance than normal, etc... could have also led to less flu cases.

how does flu spread? I assume people to people; with a lot of folks working from home (those who can) that is a sizable population getting away from flu


Third,
Winter this year has been relatively speaking much warmer thus far (thank god);

 

[PromisedLand]

Are seatbelts terrorism too?

I feel terrorized when I am asked to

- Not drink and drive
- Not speed to my liking
- Not blasting my stereo at full volume because neighbours whine about 2 am
- Not smoke a ciggy inside a restaurant or my office have to step out
- Not (insert some dumb BS)

I am a victim

 

[PromisedLand]

The Leafs, because they have not won a cup in 105 years.

and hockey analytics because they are a freakin' JOKE

 

[justashadowof]

I was super lucky to be at the last leafs game against Tampa as a Birthday gift.

I truly hope the nhl and other sports facilities adopt the new BioCloud device. Its basically going to be used as a real time screener that's 100% accurate and used in smaller spaces and rooms.

Mcdonalds was using it to screen employees before shifts in london ontario for example.




#safespaces

Everytime I see an infographic like that, I know immediately that I'm getting misled, lied to, propagandized and bs'ed.

 

[justashadowof]

The best kind of humour is mockery. It's like making fun of the special needs kid without any of the messy social blowback. Everything is okay though cause I put this here ----> /s

 

[SlpLessInMuskoka18]

Everytime I see an infographic like that, I know immediately that I'm getting misled, lied to, propagandized and bs'ed.

How else would you recommend a product get marketed and advertised in today's day and age kind sir...

 

[PromisedLand]

The more the virus rages the more the shutdown/lockdowns will begin again, and the unlikelihood hockey returns to normalcy until players and all staff are all vaccinated.

Last rumour I read was saying that Feb 2021 might be the start date and that about 7 teams want to play the entire season outdoors

In any event, when cases were lower things were opened all over; as cases rise things start to get closed down again.

Government is not our f***ing parent; we as a society and people have to take responsibility and act like adults and follow protocols and this virus goes down. Except, we have a few humungous idiots who think they know better than experts and don't follow protocols and the virus spread.

It is a pos dumbass small minority that is messing things up for majority of the Canadians (people, businesses, kids education etc...); they are the reason behind the very thing they are whining and protesting about. Freakin morons

 

[Throw More Waffles]

LOL

I think there's some truth to that. The biggest "we-need-to-stay-home-forever" friend of mine owns a small mansion in Oakville with an amazing backyard. No kids, loves working from home, no more commuting to Toronto. Also, has a very small circle of friends and hates going out to things like sports and music events.

The other friend who is like that has a family, but is so indoctrinated with politics, that he has adopted the new and strange "not-questioning-anything-government-says" stance that modern progressivism has sort of morphed into.

I've found this strange as well. The people today that think they're "standing up to the system" believe DIRECTLY what corporations, Hollywood, Education, and their government tell them. Those questioning the elite ruling class are the new "sheep". Strange times.

I've also noticed that most of the the people I know agreeing with restrictions are people with no kids that love working from home.

 

[justashadowof]

Government is not our f***ing parent; we as a society and people have to take responsibility and act like adults and follow protocols and this virus goes down. Except, we have a few humungous idiots who think they know better than experts and don't follow protocols and the virus spread.

"Government isn't our parents. Now do exactly as government says without questioning any of it or exercising any personal autonomy."