Post-Game Talk: Controversy, thy name is Bruins vs Jets; Jets win 5-4 in SO

[SensibleGuy]

Mods, can you please code a "like all" button for Aggie

Lol yeah, dude is spamming the free likes!

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Morrissey prob gets a game but.. If u watch the replay he engages b4 the Bruin player actually turns his back to the play. Was it a bad hit? Sure. Was it malicious? No.

Would it have been avoided if the Bruin doesnt turn while morrissey is already committed to the hit? Yup.

 

[wabagee]

I hated the fake love of Bruin fans in there thread, please for the love of god! Stay out of another teams thread!

 

[BrokerD]

No kid should ever have to go home sad!

Unless he's wearing his dad's Bruins jersey

 

[Aavco Cup]

Game suspension for Morrissey?

Craig Button thinks so

 

[Guffman]

The cost of the penalty is a small fraction of the cost of a goal against. You need to be nowhere near 100% to make it a correct challenge; even 50-50 would make it a runaway correct decision to challenge.

It’s an interesting discussion. If you expect to kill 20% of your penalties, a 50/50 review would net you 0.4 goals (1 goal x 50% - 1 goal x 50% x 20%) in your favour. However, in this case, it puts you into a 2 man disadvantahe, so your net should be lower.

In the play in question, you also have to look at the game situation. Is preserving a 2 goal lead in the third period THAT important, or should you concede it and protect the 1 goal lead (something we have been very successful at).

Also, was it 50/50? After looking at the reply, I don’t think so. I knew we would lose since it wasn’t conclusive but the Jets video guys need to make a snap call.

Long story short, factoring all the criteria, I would say we should not have challenged it.

 

[snowkiddin]

I don’t think Morrissey gets suspended actually.

 

[Whileee]

He's going to get a call that's for sure

Morrissey needed a breather anyway. He could use a few games off before the playoffs.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Not when you're already killing a 5 minute major. The risk of an additional 2 minute 5-on-3 was not worth it on such a close call. IMO of course, with hindsight being 20-20...

I mean, I'm a human being, I get that the optics are absolutely horrible. I'm impressed they stuck with it though. It feels so weird to say "six game winning streak" but yeah, we're rolling it up nicely

 

[Wizard204]

The Jets basically beat the Bruins at their own game.

If their fans do not like the fact they got beat the same way their Bruins beat other teams too ****ing bad.

Well their fans did call morrissey a plug....

 

[dcypher]

Did anyone ever think since the Jets returned in 2011 that a day would come where the team has become a dominant force in the NHL as a legitimate top dog cup contender?

Flashbacks of Eric Tangradi, Antii Miettinen, Wellwood...

I was telling friends in 2011/2012 to give it 5 years for a legit rebuild and retooling of the team... Now we are reaping the rewards.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Nah, challenge sucked
Positive expectation would have been eat the goal and believe your team brings it home still up 1.

The challenge sucked. You gotta play the score there. Losing the challenge was making it a tie game. Our video review crew needs a bag skate.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Bruins should prob change their Jerseys to better represent their fan base so instead of a B they should have a D for Douchebags.

 

[SCP Guy]

Jets should offer free ice cream on the way out to the kid Bruin fans after the game lol

Yeah can't blame the kids...their parents on the other hand should be ashamed

 

[Neuf]

Haha oh man. Another win! Load the Zamboni up with the tears of Boston fans and lay another layer of justice on the sacred ice of BellMTS Place.

 

[ICdave]

Player post-game audio: Tanev, Wheeler and Lowry.

Coach Maurice.

To listen click here.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

The challenge sucked. You gotta play the score there. Losing the challenge was making it a tie game. Our video review crew needs a bag skate.

I dunno. They seemed pretty convinced puck was out and one of the replays certainly makes it appear it was. Even after the good goal announcement wheeler and some boys were pointing at the jumbotron thing. I wouldnt have challenged tho.

 

[Board Bard]

Another quick take...hated Laine’s play at the end of his shift in OT where he coughed up possession trying to drive into their zone.

I think he’s goal hungry to catch Ovi. It wasn’t a smart play.

I thought he was weak tonight. Thank heavens for the SO winner though.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Here's a stat for you. In 100 years the most points the Leafs have ever achieved is 103.

Jets have 104 with 6 games remaining

 

[bustamente]

 

[AlphaLackey]

It’s an interesting discussion. If you expect to kill 20% of your penalties, a 50/50 review would net you 0.4 goals (1 goal x 50% x 1 goal x 50% x 20%) in your favour. However, in this case, it puts you into a 2 man disadvantahe, so your net should be lower.

In the play in question, you also have to look at the game situation. Is preserving a 2 goal lead in the third period THAT important, or should you concede it and protect the 1 goal lead (something we have been very successful at).

Also, was it 50/50? After looking at the reply, I don’t think so. I knew we would lose since it wasn’t conclusive but the Jets video guys need to make a snap call.

Long story short, factoring all the criteria, I would say we should not have challenged it.

Yeah, I mean, you need to figure out what the expected probability is of being scored on 5v3 relative to 5v4, to say nothing of the fact that goals aren't created equal (i.e. that tying goal was worth more to Boston than the proximity goal was to them). Only really trying to stand up for the notion that it needs to be far, far less than "100% certain or nearly so". Was it a 50/50 situation? I'm inclined to think so since it was very close and it took a long time to review. But obviously there's very, very fuzzy assessing in trying to figure that out.

But if the video guy told Maurice it was 50/50, I'd hope Mo would challenge it almost every time.

What I need are modern goal scoring rates for 5v3 vs 5v4. Only cites I can find are about 10 years old, and lord knows how many rule changes ago that is.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I dunno. They seemed pretty convinced puck was out and one of the replays certainly makes it appear it was. Even after the good goal announcement wheeler and some boys were pointing at the jumbotron thing. I wouldnt have challenged tho.

You play the score. Losing the challenge was basically giving up the lead. It leaves a foul taste in my mouth still.

I was yelling at the TV...."don't do it Mo don't do it"

 

[bustamente]

Morrisseys hit looks worse cause he also jump when making contact, no problem with a suspension the player did not return, as some have said he could use he rest

 

[Atoyot]

I dunno. They seemed pretty convinced puck was out and one of the replays certainly makes it appear it was. Even after the good goal announcement wheeler and some boys were pointing at the jumbotron thing. I wouldnt have challenged tho.

It was pretty obvious that it didn't come out.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

You play the score. Losing the challenge was basically giving up the lead. It leaves a foul taste in my mouth still.

I was yelling at the TV...."don't do it Mo don't do it"

I dont think you play the score. If correct the score would be 3 1. Sounds silly if you are convinced they are offside to not challenge because then its 3 2.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

It was pretty obvious that it didn't come out.

Was it? Cuz they reviewed it a long damn time.