Salary Cap: Contracts and Salary Cap (Contract Info in Posts #1 & #2)
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Machinehead
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$2.2B in revenue for a 48 game and 99 day season. Project that over a 82 game and 186 day season.
$3.75B in revenue.
$3.75B. 50%. Subtract $100,000,000 for benefits. $1.775B. Divide by 30. Add 5%. Add 15%. New CBA has a different salary range. Adds 15% to the adjusted mid-point with the 5% bump.
$71M upper limit.
BBKers
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NYR Viper
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This. Lots and lots of this. There will be players available next off-season. Hopefully they will look to lock up Staal and some others as well next off-season.
Tawnos
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Here's a breakdown of where our summer cap currently sits.
Forwards
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Rick Nash|7,800,000|One-way|N/A
Brad Richards|6,666,667|One-way|N/A
Ryan Callahan|4,275,000|One-way|N/A
Derick Brassard|3,200,000|One-way|N/A
Carl Hagelin|2,250,000|One-way|N/A
Brian Boyle|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Derek Dorsett|1,633,333|One-way|N/A
Taylor Pyatt|1,550,000|One-way|N/A
Benoit Pouliot|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Darroll Powe|1,066,667|One-way|N/A
Dominic Moore|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Arron Asham|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Haley|600,000|One-way|N/A
Chris Kreider|581,818|Two-way|64
JT Miller|597,980|Two-way|64
Derek Stepan|826,875|QO One-way|N/A
Mats Zuccarello|230,151|QO Two-way|31
Brandon Mashinter|61,111|QO Two-way|10
Total|36,339,601|
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Defensemen
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Ryan McDonagh|4,700,000|One-way|N/A
Marc Staal|3,975,000|One-way|N/A
Dan Girardi|3,325,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Del Zotto|2,550,000|One-way|N/A
Anton Stralman|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Justin Falk|975,000|One-Way|N/A
Stu Bickel|750,000|One-way|N/A
Aaron Johnson|600,000|One-way|N/A
John Moore|965,000|Two-way|99
Total|19,540,000|
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Goaltenders
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Henrik Lundqvist|6,875,000|One-way|N/A
Martin Biron|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Total|8,175,000|
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Totals
[table="head; width=350px"]Cap Hit|Cap Ceiling|10% Cushion|Cap Space
$64,054,601|$64,300,000|$70,730,000|$6,675,399
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Forwards
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Rick Nash|7,800,000|One-way|N/A
Brad Richards|6,666,667|One-way|N/A
Ryan Callahan|4,275,000|One-way|N/A
Derick Brassard|3,200,000|One-way|N/A
Carl Hagelin|2,250,000|One-way|N/A
Brian Boyle|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Derek Dorsett|1,633,333|One-way|N/A
Taylor Pyatt|1,550,000|One-way|N/A
Benoit Pouliot|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Darroll Powe|1,066,667|One-way|N/A
Dominic Moore|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Arron Asham|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Haley|600,000|One-way|N/A
Chris Kreider|581,818|Two-way|64
JT Miller|597,980|Two-way|64
Derek Stepan|826,875|QO One-way|N/A
Mats Zuccarello|230,151|QO Two-way|31
Brandon Mashinter|61,111|QO Two-way|10
Total|36,339,601|
Defensemen
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Ryan McDonagh|4,700,000|One-way|N/A
Marc Staal|3,975,000|One-way|N/A
Dan Girardi|3,325,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Del Zotto|2,550,000|One-way|N/A
Anton Stralman|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Justin Falk|975,000|One-Way|N/A
Stu Bickel|750,000|One-way|N/A
Aaron Johnson|600,000|One-way|N/A
John Moore|965,000|Two-way|99
Total|19,540,000|
Goaltenders
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Henrik Lundqvist|6,875,000|One-way|N/A
Martin Biron|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Total|8,175,000|
Totals
[table="head; width=350px"]Cap Hit|Cap Ceiling|10% Cushion|Cap Space
$64,054,601|$64,300,000|$70,730,000|$6,675,399
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Kane One
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I noticed I forgot to add Aaron Johnson to my spreadsheet, but I still don't have the same numbers.
How did you get Stepan, Kreider, Miller, and Mashinter's numbers? Isn't it supposed to be prorated for a 99 game season? We both have the same number for Zuccarello, which doesn't make sense, since it looks like you are using a different formula there.
How did you get Stepan, Kreider, Miller, and Mashinter's numbers? Isn't it supposed to be prorated for a 99 game season? We both have the same number for Zuccarello, which doesn't make sense, since it looks like you are using a different formula there.
Tawnos
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Are you pro-rating cap hit or base salary? Only the pro-rated base counts, unless the guys hit their bonuses, which I doubt.
Mashinter's QO was $605,000. (10/99)+605,000=61,111.11
Kane One
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GordonGecko
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So I just graduated with a doctorate in nuclear physics from MIT. I decided it would be fun to get into pro sports and I applied for an analyst position at the National Hockey League to calculate salary cap numbers. Unfortunately they said I wasn't qualified to handle such complex things 
So I just graduated with a doctorate in nuclear physics from MIT. I decided it would be fun to get into pro sports and I applied for an analyst position at the National Hockey League to calculate salary cap numbers. Unfortunately they said I wasn't qualified to handle such complex things
As a former physics major going to graduate school at columbia for applied math - none of that would be helpful
They'd be better off going with someone competent in excel and finished something like accounting. Lower salary costs.
Quantum physics isn't even hard! Just a bunch of table-monkeying bull****. Advanced E&M - now that is HARD.
Miller Time NYR
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Only thing scary about next offseason is hanks pay raise really hope brooks is talking out of his ass saying hank wants 10 mil a season
broadwayblue
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Brooks always talks out of his ass. Sure, Hank can get a 10M contract...assuming he only wants a 1 year deal. But clearly if he's looking for 7 or 8 years (which is far more likely) he isn't getting more than 8M/per. And with that essentially being a 1M raise, there's nothing to worry about.
GordonGecko
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Well if Hank wants to get paid he needs to bring it this year, so there's that to look forward to
Off Sides
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- Sep 8, 2008
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Just a question, when a RFA signs the qualifier comes off the books and just his cap hit counts at that point?
Like if Stepan signed for 4M cap hit, his 826K qualifier no longer applies, so the Rangers would not use 4M of their available ~6.67 summer cap space, they'd use ~3.174M of it?
If so that would apply to Zucc and Mashinter as well, then why would ~3.3M in left over summer cap space plus their qualifying amounts not be enough space under the summer cap? Even if they sign Zucc for 1.5M or whatever that would only lower their available space by whatever he is signed for minus the 230K qualifier.
Like if Stepan signed for 4M cap hit, his 826K qualifier no longer applies, so the Rangers would not use 4M of their available ~6.67 summer cap space, they'd use ~3.174M of it?
If so that would apply to Zucc and Mashinter as well, then why would ~3.3M in left over summer cap space plus their qualifying amounts not be enough space under the summer cap? Even if they sign Zucc for 1.5M or whatever that would only lower their available space by whatever he is signed for minus the 230K qualifier.
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That is correct.
It is enough space. A lot of people aren't looking at the summer cap, but rather the in-season cap, where things will get a little tighter.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Here's a breakdown of where our summer cap currently sits.
Forwards
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Rick Nash|7,800,000|One-way|N/A
Brad Richards|6,666,667|One-way|N/A
Ryan Callahan|4,275,000|One-way|N/A
Derick Brassard|3,200,000|One-way|N/A
Carl Hagelin|2,250,000|One-way|N/A
Brian Boyle|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Derek Dorsett|1,633,333|One-way|N/A
Taylor Pyatt|1,550,000|One-way|N/A
Benoit Pouliot|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Mats Zuccarello|1,150,000|One-way|N/A
Darroll Powe|1,066,667|One-way|N/A
Dominic Moore|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Arron Asham|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Haley|600,000|One-way|N/A
Chris Kreider|581,818|Two-way|64
JT Miller|597,980|Two-way|64
Brandon Mashinter|61,111|Two-way|10
Derek Stepan|826,875|QO One-way|N/A
Total|37,259,451|
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Defensemen
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Ryan McDonagh|4,700,000|One-way|N/A
Marc Staal|3,975,000|One-way|N/A
Dan Girardi|3,325,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Del Zotto|2,550,000|One-way|N/A
Anton Stralman|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Justin Falk|975,000|One-Way|N/A
Stu Bickel|750,000|One-way|N/A
Aaron Johnson|600,000|One-way|N/A
John Moore|965,000|Two-way|99
Total|19,540,000|
[/table]
Goaltenders
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Henrik Lundqvist|6,875,000|One-way|N/A
Martin Biron|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Total|8,175,000|
[/table]
Totals
[table="head; width=350px"]Cap Hit|Cap Ceiling|10% Cushion|Cap Space
$64,974,451|$64,300,000|$70,730,000|$5,755,459
[/table]
Forwards
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Rick Nash|7,800,000|One-way|N/A
Brad Richards|6,666,667|One-way|N/A
Ryan Callahan|4,275,000|One-way|N/A
Derick Brassard|3,200,000|One-way|N/A
Carl Hagelin|2,250,000|One-way|N/A
Brian Boyle|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Derek Dorsett|1,633,333|One-way|N/A
Taylor Pyatt|1,550,000|One-way|N/A
Benoit Pouliot|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Mats Zuccarello|1,150,000|One-way|N/A
Darroll Powe|1,066,667|One-way|N/A
Dominic Moore|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Arron Asham|1,000,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Haley|600,000|One-way|N/A
Chris Kreider|581,818|Two-way|64
JT Miller|597,980|Two-way|64
Brandon Mashinter|61,111|Two-way|10
Derek Stepan|826,875|QO One-way|N/A
Total|37,259,451|
Defensemen
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Ryan McDonagh|4,700,000|One-way|N/A
Marc Staal|3,975,000|One-way|N/A
Dan Girardi|3,325,000|One-way|N/A
Michael Del Zotto|2,550,000|One-way|N/A
Anton Stralman|1,700,000|One-way|N/A
Justin Falk|975,000|One-Way|N/A
Stu Bickel|750,000|One-way|N/A
Aaron Johnson|600,000|One-way|N/A
John Moore|965,000|Two-way|99
Total|19,540,000|
Goaltenders
[table="head; width=350px"]Name|Cap Hit|Type|Days
Henrik Lundqvist|6,875,000|One-way|N/A
Martin Biron|1,300,000|One-way|N/A
Total|8,175,000|
Totals
[table="head; width=350px"]Cap Hit|Cap Ceiling|10% Cushion|Cap Space
$64,974,451|$64,300,000|$70,730,000|$5,755,459
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I gotta think Stepan gets in the 3.8 range 4 or 5 years. Very low 3M range if he signs for less years. Very low 4's if he signs for 6+ leaving a good chunk of change in case of a trade and for Hank if he gets any slight bonus. Plus we have a 6.66 million dollar eject button waiting to be pressed.
I mean McD played at the top for over2 years. Stepan did it for half a season He blew early in this half season too
I mean McD played at the top for over2 years. Stepan did it for half a season He blew early in this half season too
I don't got any bearing on if Hank will sign for 7.5 or 8.5, but this decision is not about money.
Hank is making a prudent decision. He is just that type of person. It took a long time for him to sign in NY. We were the joke of the league and people close to him advised him to try to go to a more stable organization. Many kids just signs whatever is put infront of them so that they can focus on the game.
We are an org in very good shape now.
I think this is more about him just thinking it through. Instead of just signing, he seems to be the type who needs to consider everything on the level of like "I live once, this decision will affect my life greatly, is this really what I want to do? Where I want to live? Raise my family?"
And so forth and so forth.
Does he want to sign past his kids school years? Lidström signed up untill his oldest kid was 6, more or less let DET know he would return to Sweden after that contract (he would be like 34). DET if I remember correctly more or less "built" an international school for him in DET with Swedish teaching.
It's not an easy decision.
BBKers
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Lidstrom wanted to make the move to Sweden a long time ago so his kids would grow up there. His kids are Americans. Lidstrom stayed until the end of his career. Its like Samuelsson and his kids. Ulf moved back to the US after leaving to coach in Sweden. Lundqvist has a daughter. She was born in New York. She will go to the best schools in Manhattan. When she becomes 9 or 10,Henrik is moving her to Sweden when she was born and raised here and all of her friends are here? The Lidstroms will eventually return to the US. College. Work.
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TheTakedown
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what are the possibilities that the Rangers sign Stepan for $3M per year, but stack bonuses in and allow the bonus penalties accumulate against next years cap?
BBKers
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I could see this happening:
WE wind up with a roster like this on opening day:
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derek Stepan ($3.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Brandon Mashinter ($0.605m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
LTIR
Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m)
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SALARY TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $66,040,833
BONUSES: $1,362,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster - 2 players on LTIR):- $378,333
Hartford then has the following to choose from for their team:
Forwards
Asham
Powe
Kristo
Hrivik
Bourque
Fast
Yogan
St.Croix
K. Jean
Haley
Nicholls
Carroll (AHL contract)
Kantor
J.Wilson
Surprise camp invitee??
Defensemen
Johnson
McIlrath
Syvret
Allen
Bickel
Hughes
Noreau
Dodero (AHL contract)
Nash (AHL contract)
Marcou (AHL contract)
When Cally and Hags return - then there will likely be some roster movement... Not very promising purely offensively (to begin with at least) but when all are healthy should be a good team with depth like never before.
If they are ready before 10 games are played and never go on LTIR we will see somebody moved out earlier. The usual suspects Pyatt or Boyle perhaps?? In addition I would not mind a $1M + $1M (bonuses) deal thrown at Vinny Prospal. But that is just me. Could provide some valuable points in a grunting 82 game year. Could work cap wise too..
- Stepan signs a 2 year bridge deal @ $3M
- No trades are done initially
- Asham and Powe are waived, clear and report to Hartford
- Johnson is cut and starts in Hartford
- Other noteables in Hartford include: Fast(h), Hrivik, Kristo, Haley, McIllraith and a surprise training camp invitee
- Miller, Lindberg and Mashinter make the team out of camp
- Both Cally and Hagelin start the year on LTIR sitting out the first 10+ games as a precaution and to help form the team going fwd
WE wind up with a roster like this on opening day:
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derek Stepan ($3.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Brandon Mashinter ($0.605m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
LTIR
Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m)
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SALARY TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $66,040,833
BONUSES: $1,362,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster - 2 players on LTIR):- $378,333
Hartford then has the following to choose from for their team:
Forwards
Asham
Powe
Kristo
Hrivik
Bourque
Fast
Yogan
St.Croix
K. Jean
Haley
Nicholls
Carroll (AHL contract)
Kantor
J.Wilson
Surprise camp invitee??
Defensemen
Johnson
McIlrath
Syvret
Allen
Bickel
Hughes
Noreau
Dodero (AHL contract)
Nash (AHL contract)
Marcou (AHL contract)
When Cally and Hags return - then there will likely be some roster movement... Not very promising purely offensively (to begin with at least) but when all are healthy should be a good team with depth like never before.
If they are ready before 10 games are played and never go on LTIR we will see somebody moved out earlier. The usual suspects Pyatt or Boyle perhaps?? In addition I would not mind a $1M + $1M (bonuses) deal thrown at Vinny Prospal. But that is just me. Could provide some valuable points in a grunting 82 game year. Could work cap wise too..
