OT: Consolidated Entertainment Thread (TV, movies, books, games) part VI - use spoiler tags!

[Darkauron]

Season 2 is a lot better than season 1 too

 

[My3Sons]

Later in the episode one of the characters says “this too shall pass”. Again no way that is a coincidence after thr first exchange

 

[Satans Hockey]

R.I.P. She was always great in everything I saw her in...

 

[Satans Hockey]

Word of mouth for Joker 2 has been absymal and it's looking like it's going to be a huge bomb, anyone actually plan on seeing it? The commericals look so bad. I'm going to wait until I can just watch from home.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Word of mouth for Joker 2 has been absymal and it's looking like it's going to be a huge bomb, anyone actually plan on seeing it? The commericals look so bad. I'm going to wait until I can just watch from home.

Seeing it Saturday.

Half the reviews say its good, the other half hated the musical scenes.

As someone who LOVES Willy Wonka, the musical stuff doesn’t impact me. I am looking forward to seeing it. And you never know. The acolyte got murdered in the ratings and yet I absolutely loved it.

Such a toxic environment we live in where people need to hate on something just because it may not be their cup of tea. I am going into Saturday with an open mind. The trailers look fantastic IMO.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Seeing it Saturday.

Half the reviews say its good, the other half hated the musical scenes.

As someone who LOVES Willy Wonka, the musical stuff doesn’t impact me. I am looking forward to seeing it. And you never know. The acolyte got murdered in the ratings and yet I absolutely loved it.

Such a toxic environment we live in where people need to hate on something just because it may not be their cup of tea. I am going into Saturday with an open mind. The trailers look fantastic IMO.

I enjoyed the first one and had even seen them film a bunch of it cause they were filming right near the arena but ticket prices for movies are too expensive for my tastes these days to go into something that has a chance of being bad. If I had Regal unlimited or a list I'd go no matter what.

I saw the trailer a few times and it just looks boring. I don't mind musicals but I'm really not a fan of jukebox musicals and all of the latest commericals on TV that I've seen hides that it's a musical too so I'm sure there's some people going who have absolutely no clue.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

I enjoyed the first one and had even seen them film a bunch of it cause they were filming right near the arena but ticket prices for movies are too expensive for my tastes these days to go into something that has a chance of being bad. If I had Regal unlimited or a list I'd go no matter what.

I saw the trailer a few times and it just looks boring. I don't mind musicals but I'm really not a fan of jukebox musicals and all of the latest commericals on TV that I've seen hides that it's a musical too so I'm sure there's some people going who have absolutely no clue.

Once Lady Gaga was casted to play Harley Quinn I lost interest in this sequel fast. The first one was great and I honestly wouldn't of complained if they made a sequel. I don't understand how the Joker is still basically in the beginning of his villian stage but Harley pops into the picture so fast. She didn't come around till he was well established in pretty much every thing she has been in. It looks like she isn't even his therapist in this one either. I'm all for making creative changes but I'm not a fan of what they did for this one. Especially it being a musical or whatever.

 

[My3Sons]

Once Lady Gaga was casted to play Harley Quinn I lost interest in this sequel fast. The first one was great and I honestly wouldn't have complained if they made a sequel. I don't understand how the Joker is still basically in the beginning of his villian stage but Harley pops into the picture so fast. She didn't come around till he was well established in pretty much every thing she has been in. It looks like she isn't even his therapist in this one either. I'm all for making creative changes but I'm not a fan of what they did for this one. Especially it being a musical or whatever.

The whole premise of the original movie presented a different version of thr Joker. He wasn’t a criminal mastermind or a true villain in training. He’s just a down on his luck sad story mixed with some pent up aggression. I’m not surprised this sequel tried something a bit off the wall given that was probably the only way Joaquin Phoenix would return. The bigger issue to me is if they try to make it a Batman movie without Batman. That’s happened a fair amount in recent years with mixed results but to me it’s distracting at times.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Yeah this Joker is a complete separation from the classic Joker tales. Which is why I love it. It’s also a very realistic portrayal. I despise the wild superhero movies so this first Joker was perfect for me.

 

[Devils731]

The whole premise of the original movie presented a different version of thr Joker. He wasn’t a criminal mastermind or a true villain in training. He’s just a down on his luck sad story mixed with some pent up aggression. I’m not surprised this sequel tried something a bit off the wall given that was probably the only way Joaquin Phoenix would return. The bigger issue to me is if they try to make it a Batman movie without Batman. That’s happened a fair amount in recent years with mixed results but to me it’s distracting at times.

To add to that, Todd Phillips made the Joker because he wanted to make a character piece movie but no studio would give him the financing for it. He realized he could get the funding if he stapled a superhero overlay onto the story he wanted to tell.

So we get The Joker which is him wanting to make a new version of The King of Comedy but he has to make it a superhero movie.

Now this is the musical movie I’m assuming he’s always wanted to make but he has to staple his superhero universe onto it. It doesn’t look like it’s for me but I’m glad a person figured out a way to make the type of movie they wanted.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I dislike musical movies. I like being pulled into a world of make believe and suspend belief but when they go from a dramatic scene and break into choreographed numbers it completely shatters that for me.

I love music (Rick Beato youtube rabbit holes galore)
I love movies

I don't like to mix the two aside from great scores which elevate the scenes we see by emphasizing the emotions the director is trying to relay. Like John Williams said, a great score is one you don't notice. Plenty of scores where I was like why is the music telling me this is dramatic but the characters and scene aren't?

 

[My3Sons]

Yeah this Joker is a complete separation from the classic Joker tales. Which is why I love it. It’s also a very realistic portrayal. I despise the wild superhero movies so this first Joker was perfect for me.

Well I’m going to see it but Phillips better not end up owing me $15.

 

[JK3]

I heard it’s pretty bad. Joaquin Phoenix is supposed to be really good as well as the other actors but they don’t have much to work with and it’s just boring.

Warner Brothers barely made any money on the first one. They didn’t believe in it and had outside investors put up the cash which was 65 mil. Now these dummies sunk 200 mil into this one which will probably bomb lmao. These companies are so dumb.

Spoiler: Spoilers

I’ve seen that it ruins the first movie and the Joker doesn’t do any Jokery stuff at all. He’s basically weak Arthur Flek all over again even though he already transformed into the Joker in the first movie.

Gaga was good but underutilized. I don’t think it’s a real musical musical, I’m not sure how many whole songs the make it through. A lot of it was talk singing if that makes sense lol.

I know a lot of people didn’t like the ending.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I heard it’s pretty bad. Joaquin Phoenix is supposed to be really good as well as the other actors but they don’t have much to work with and it’s just boring.

Warner Brothers barely made any money on the first one. They didn’t believe in it and had outside investors put up the cash which was 65 mil. Now these dummies sunk 200 mil into this one which will probably bomb lmao. These companies are so dumb.

Spoiler: Spoilers

I’ve seen that it ruins the first movie and the Joker doesn’t do any Jokery stuff at all. He’s basically weak Arthur Flek all over again even though he already transformed into the Joker in the first movie.

Gaga was good but underutilized. I don’t think it’s a real musical musical, I’m not sure how many whole songs the make it through. A lot of it was talk singing if that makes sense lol.

I know a lot of people didn’t like the ending.

Saw it last night. I personally loved it. I knew for the last 3 years it was a drama/musical so I was prepared for that.

Loved the story and Phoenix was fantastic.

 

[My3Sons]

Saw it last night. I personally loved it. I knew for the last 3 years it was a drama/musical so I was prepared for that.

Loved the story and Phoenix was fantastic.

On a scale of one should this movie be called the Lighthouse 2?

 

[Satans Hockey]

On a scale of one should this movie be called the Lighthouse 2?

Lol I still hate that movie

Saw it last night. I personally loved it. I knew for the last 3 years it was a drama/musical so I was prepared for that.

Loved the story and Phoenix was fantastic.

I saw a comment that Phoenix shouldn't be allowed to sing in the shower lol how was his singing?

I'm glad you enjoyed it and I definitely plan on watching at home but it's crazy what a massive box office bomb it turned out to be, it got something like 37 million over the weekend, somehow lower than Morbius of all things. The word of mouth has been putrid for it. It's just crazy how a sequel to a billion dollar movie is going to fail this hard financially.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Lol I still hate that movie



I saw a comment that Phoenix shouldn't be allowed to sing in the shower lol how was his singing?

I'm glad you enjoyed it and I definitely plan on watching at home but it's crazy what a massive box office bomb it turned out to be, it got something like 37 million over the weekend, somehow lower than Morbius of all things. The word of mouth has been putrid for it. It's just crazy how a sequel to a billion dollar movie is going to fail this hard financially.

His singing wasn’t anything good, but its not really supposed to be anything good in the context of the story. The musical sequences…

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are his delusional thoughts

 

[Satans Hockey]

His singing wasn’t anything good, but its not really supposed to be anything good in the context of the story. The musical sequences…

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are his delusional thoughts

Didn't click the spoiler since I'm going to watch eventually. How was gagas singing? I saw she made comments that they actually told her to sing bad. Again I totally get that there could be a context reasoning for that but then why hire a singer to sing poorly if that's true

 

[NjDevsRR]

Didn't click the spoiler since I'm going to watch eventually. How was gagas singing? I saw she made comments that they actually told her to sing bad. Again I totally get that there could be a context reasoning for that but then why hire a singer to sing poorly if that's true

The spoiler context has the answer haha. Just go into it with an open mind and I think you’d enjoy it. Theres a reason for the musical scenes and it works well with the plot IMO.

Now, I know my taste is different than most. I absolutely love stuff like the Lighthouse. So to each their own. For me, I liked it and am even seeing it again tomorrow with a friend.

 

[Satans Hockey]

The spoiler context has the answer haha. Just go into it with an open mind and I think you’d enjoy it. Theres a reason for the musical scenes and it works well with the plot IMO.

Now, I know my taste is different than most. I absolutely love stuff like the Lighthouse. So to each their own. For me, I liked it and am even seeing it again tomorrow with a friend.

I just wonder how this movie cost so much to make when it looks like they barely go anywhere.

I'm always pretty open minded about movies, it's just my wallet that isn't. Movies near me even with "discount Tuesdays" are still like $8 a ticket. It's just too much money and I hate all the damn ads and trailers so I save going to the movies for once in a blue moon.

I did see Transformers One which was actually really well done and the trailers for the movie totally hurt it because it looked like a super goofy kiddie movie and it really wasn't like that at all.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I just wonder how this movie cost so much to make when it looks like they barely go anywhere.

I'm always pretty open minded about movies, it's just my wallet that isn't. Movies near me even with "discount Tuesdays" are still like $8 a ticket. It's just too much money and I hate all the damn ads and trailers so I save going to the movies for once in a blue moon.

I did see Transformers One which was actually really well done and the trailers for the movie totally hurt it because it looked like a super goofy kiddie movie and it really wasn't like that at all.

I know you are a stickler on prices but cmon now haha. $7.50 ticket Tuesdays for amc stubs members is a bargain. And I show up 15 mins past showtime to skip 75% of the trailers.

As for the budget, the cast probably cost 25% of that. And the film is visually stunning looking, just like the first one.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Also for what its worth, the director has been adamant that the 200 million budget isn’t accurate. He mentioned it a number of times over the summer

Take it with a grain of salt

Todd Phillips Laughs Off ‘Absurd’ Critics of ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Budget

Todd Phillips slammed critics of the rumored 'Joker: Folie à Deux' budget.

www.indiewire.com

 

[NjDevsRR]

@Satans Hockey

Bottomline for this particular movie is if you are not going into the theater with an open mind or not expecting an unorthodox musical, then you will hate it.

If you are prepared for it or knew for years that this movie will be this way, or walk into the theater with an open mind then I think you will enjoy it.

I understand both sides. I can see why many people despise it, but I can understand why some really liked it, because I enjoyed it.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I know you are a stickler on prices but cmon now haha. $7.50 ticket Tuesdays for amc stubs members is a bargain. And I show up 15 mins past showtime to skip 75% of the trailers.

As for the budget, the cast probably cost 25% of that. And the film is visually stunning looking, just like the first one.

Wouldn't be going by myself so it adds up to be more than that so that's the main reason I'm such a cheap ass on movies lol

We did Regal unlimited for a few months but then the writers strike hit and we decided to cancel it and we got burnt out on seeing any trailers whatsoever.

The amount of time between theater release and home release doesn't help either. It just doesn't feel worth it half the time and I got increasingly annoyed at the other people experience part of it too, people with phones out, people talking, people coughing up their lungs. Just burnt out on the entire experience so it has to be a can't miss movie for me to see in the movies now.

Heretic and Gladiator 2 are my only must see in the theater for the rest of the year.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Wouldn't be going by myself so it adds up to be more than that so that's the main reason I'm such a cheap ass on movies lol

We did Regal unlimited for a few months but then the writers strike hit and we decided to cancel it and we got burnt out on seeing any trailers whatsoever.

The amount of time between theater release and home release doesn't help either. It just doesn't feel worth it half the time and I got increasingly annoyed at the other people experience part of it too, people with phones out, people talking, people coughing up their lungs. Just burnt out on the entire experience so it has to be a can't miss movie for me to see in the movies now.

Heretic and Gladiator 2 are my only must see in the theater for the rest of the year.

Ooo yes. Heretic I am excited for.

Gladiator 2 I am terrified about haha cause the first one is one of my favorites. But will definitely see it on the big screen.