Rumor: Conor Garland Contract / Trade Rumors (UPD: Coyotes are "very much trying to move")

[Jakey53]

Jakey… he was just at the Nevada Gaming Council to present them a financing plan he obtained from Bank of America. It’s the law in Nevada and it’s public record. NGC doesn’t take anything lightly. They asked him about the Katie Strang article. The last thing they want is for something similar to that in one of the casino operations they oversee. They hit Meruelo with a hefty fine not long ago for violating CoVID protocols at the Sahara and that was also addressed at the meeting.

But just seeing he brought a financing plan to the NGC is enough to know Meruelo is working his way out of the pandemic but not without some financial assistance.

It doesn’t mean he’s broke, but it “Sure as Sh*t “ means he’s not cash flushed either at the moment.

Do you know where I can view those public financials on Meruelo? I also would bet that Meruelo isn't the only one getting hit with these stupid covid protocols.

 

[Heldig]

Why wouldn't he present a financing plan? Money is cheap right now and rich people only use their own money when they absolutely have no other choice.

The stories wont stop until the organization stops shooting themselves in the foot. Things like refusing to pay for team pizza has to stop. Things like not responding to allegations that they are not even in contact with their #1 forward and most important RFA has to stop.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Not bashing the owner. All I'm saying is that, according to Forbes Magazine -- who, by the way, is the leading authority of measuring net worth of the wealthy, Alex Meruelo is not worth even $1B (which is half of what Meruelo says he is worth). Here, you can see for yourself:

Real Time Billionaires .
I personally think this discrepancy is strange.



Neither do you Jakey, or anyone else here (including me!!). I put a stake in the sand a few days ago, got great constructive feedback from other posters (thx everyone) which included accurate sources e.g., other press notes saying he was worth up to $14B from places like espn. That's how you make an argument!!! So, thx everybody.

At the time, I was just bringing up the point (rightly so I believe) bc it seemed like we were all assuming this guy is liquid enough to indefinitely eat tens of millions of dollars in operating losses per year -- I personally am not convinced although I do hope he can, especially depending how long it takes for fans to come back. After listening to all of your points, my conclusion now is that we really don't know, maybe Meruelo is liquid enough to fund significant operating losses but maybe not. Yes, my view has changed from "he is probably broke" to "we don't really know" based on all the great points you all made. And that is a good thing, I think.

Obviously I hope he is liquid enough to competently support the team (that goes beyond saying), but I personally am not entirely sure. Time will tell

The link posted is based on market value which can change greatly year over year. AM seems to hold a lot of value in areas that struggled significantly over the last year so I'd only put so much stock into that info without significant research on other factors.

 

[Jakey53]

The stories wont stop until the organization stops shooting themselves in the foot. Things like refusing to pay for team pizza has to stop. Things like not responding to allegations that they are not even in contact with their #1 forward and most important RFA has to stop.

All alligations have been corrected, and as far as being in contact with a player is all agent posturing. The Coyotes have done nothing wrong.

 

[hbk]

All alligations have been corrected, and as far as being in contact with a player is all agent posturing. The Coyotes have done nothing wrong.

If the Athletic doesn’t cover it then did it even really happen?

marian Hossa has more articles written about him since season started than Garland.

 

[Heldig]

All alligations have been corrected, and as far as being in contact with a player is all agent posturing. The Coyotes have done nothing wrong.

I am not saying there is anything there, just the story and that is enough to pile on the organization.

 

[Sm00chy]

As long as the Katie Strang’s exist in hockey media, who can build (twist?) a story to meet their agenda, the Coyotes will always be a target for larger NHL issues.

Exactly… I’ve been a fan since 96 so I’ve grown some thick skin to this time of year. Like I said… someday others will too haha

 

[Jakey53]

I am not saying there is anything there, just the story and that is enough to pile on the organization.

Exactly… I’ve been a fan since 96 so I’ve grown some thick skin to this time of year. Like I said… someday others will too haha

There is only ONE way to shut them all up, and we haven't been doing that the last decade or more. You have to earn your respect.

 

[RABBIT]

From the Nattie Hattie Podcast:

- Craig states that the contracts proposed to the Coyotes were not Clayton Keller money, but not long term contracts either.

- Says he believes they are talking this week now that coaching has been resolved, which he thinks is “good development.”

 

[hbk]

From the Nattie Hattie Podcast:

- Craig states that the contracts proposed to the Coyotes were not Clayton Keller money, but not long term contracts either.

- Says he believes they are talking this week now that coaching has been resolved, which he thinks is “good development.”

That whole Garland story from the agent was just such utter bullshit.

 

[XX]

Eriksson Ek contract is a good bar. Center, about equally important. 5.25m x 5 years with no clauses would be great for Garland.

 

[rt]

From the Nattie Hattie Podcast:

- Craig states that the contracts proposed to the Coyotes were not Clayton Keller money, but not long term contracts either.

- Says he believes they are talking this week now that coaching has been resolved, which he thinks is “good development.”

I saw the episode summary and can’t bring myself to listen to them do trade speculation. Haha. I have to work up to it.

 

[rt]

Eriksson Ek contract is a good bar. Center, about equally important. 5.25m x 5 years with no clauses would be great for Garland.

Would be great.

 

[Mosby]

Using the Keller contract as a comparable when Armstrong didn’t even do that deal is waste of time. Besides, Keller is in a different age bracket.

 

[RABBIT]

GM Bill Armstrong yesterday on NHL Network radio:

https://twitter.com/siriusxmnhl/status/1411763721710489603?s=21

When asked about Garland: He compliments his game in more ways than one and says they are “working through” the negotiations. Says the process comes into play when a player jumps from an RFA contract to making significant money, and that’s what they have to work through. Called Conor a “big part” of the team and will continue to “work all summer” to make sure that continues.

 

[Mosby]

OEL is gonzo based on the rest of Army’s comments

 

[Matias Maccete]

OEL is gonzo based on the rest of Army’s comments

Quotes?

 

[Schemp]

It looks like Garland is looking for a bridge deal to UFA.

 

[XX]

It looks like Garland is looking for a bridge deal to UFA.

I don't think so. He's just in that awkward zone where his first big contract will effectively be his only prime years due to his age. BA needs to put a nice amount of guaranteed money on the table to get it done.

 

[Schemp]

I don't think so. He's just in that awkward zone where his first big contract will effectively be his only prime years due to his age. BA needs to put a nice amount of guaranteed money on the table to get it done.

Then why not come out with the usual outrageous initial max? Or are you saying that we all want him to sign a Dvorak contract and will get something done long term?

 

[XX]

Then why not come out with the usual outrageous initial max? Or are you saying that we all want him to sign a Dvorak contract and will get something done long term?

Garland probably wants to stay. Coming out with something unrealistic, even as a starting point, would just hasten a trade.

NHL contracts are guaranteed and this is likely Garland's best and only chance at a big raw dollar figure (spread out over term). BA probably wants to go no more than 5 years due to injury and productivity risks.

Teams constantly calling about him is going to make him want clauses. I bet BA is real reluctant to give them out given team needs and having to deal with Kessel/OEL clause nonsense while this is going on. The dollar figure is probably not the holdup.

His GAR value is somewhere between 5-6.25m

 

[cobra427]

Any NTC/NMC clauses would be a deal killer for me, and I hope so for BA. I like Garland and hope we can keep him but I wouldn't give him much term, maybe 3 years. Small wingers are easy to replace unless you are at Patrick Kane levels. If we give out longer term deals, do it with 1C/2C/Top 4D, those are the important positions. We might be smart to trade Garland now if his contract demands are a problem, his value might be the highest right now.

 

[Headcrush19]

I hope Garland re signs and soon.He's a keeper.

 

[Jakey53]

Any NTC/NMC clauses would be a deal killer for me, and I hope so for BA. I like Garland and hope we can keep him but I wouldn't give him much term, maybe 3 years. Small wingers are easy to replace unless you are at Patrick Kane levels. If we give out longer term deals, do it with 1C/2C/Top 4D, those are the important positions. We might be smart to trade Garland now if his contract demands are a problem, his value might be the highest right now.

We have no idea what GMBA is thinking, but where the hell are we if we trade OEL, Kessel, Kuemper and Garland. Four of our best five players traded in one off season. Has any other GM done that?

 

[Mangosteen]

I hope Kemps and Garland are staying. The other two won't be missed.