Connor Bedard stats good... but...

[oldwpgjet]

He will be a great NHL player, possibly the best in 3 or 4 years but can't see him being any worse than top 10 player in league after one or 2 years to adjust.

 

[Evil__Homer]

How is Eberle even mentioned in this thread. He had a good junior career and performed at the WJC but his individual accomplishments were nowhere near Bedard.

Eberle mentioned as Bedard beat his record, just as reference.

 

[Alienblood]

00Connor Bedard is a good player but do the stats even matter ?
He's a pretty small guy, do you think he will excel in the NHL ?

I'm just comparing him to guys like Jordan Eberle or other players records he has beaten this tournament.
Good feat but the players records he broke aren't the best in the NHL, good but not the best.

Link here shows every record he has broken:

Connor Bedard's historic World Juniors: Every record the Canadian forward broke at the 2023 tournament | Sporting News

The name "Connor Bedard" has been written all over the World Juniors history books.

www.sportingnews.com

Great player but will he be able to compete with his size ? Seem like a small guy and might get run over a lot. Just my take.

My take too, a small scoring winger like Caulfield maybe or Point but doesn't skate that well

Yeah, size is so important. Cause Kane, Marner, Crosby, Hughes, are all impacted heavily by not being 6'. Let's not forget how Panarin is 173lbs on nhl.com

Jeez man, it's 2023 lol.

Those guys are all bigger, Bedard is 5'9 and tiny

 

[Evil__Homer]

Thank you for returning to the boards after 17 years to share this absolutely profound take with us.

Anytime.

Pretty sure the date is wrong as I registered here around 1 or 2 years ago tops.
Oh well, I'll take the longer date.

 

[Daximus]

Bedard is already bigger than Marner, Kane, Kaprizov, Kucherov and Point were on their draft dates.

If you think his size is going to hold him back you're out to lunch.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

This is one of those threads where you wouldn't be shocked to find out that 5 of the accounts are really one guy and that guy is in a mental asylum somewhere.

 

[Peiskos]

People forget that he's just 17 years old and it's likely he adds 1-2 inches in height by the time he hits his 20's. Also you don't exactly need to be over 6'0" to be generational Crosby at 5'11" proves this.

 

[Connor McConnor]

World Juniors and barely outproducing another player his same age in an extremely weak WHL but people think he’s better going to be as good/better than Crosby or McDavid. Lmao.

I think he has an elite skill set but unless he grows another 2 inches and puts on some more weight he won’t be more than a MacK level talent, which is obviously still elite.

 

[Evil__Homer]

Great replies, thanks all. Again just asking peoples opinions.

Watching him play and seeing his size just made me wonder how he'll do in the NHL.
Just looks like a smaller / more compact guy compared to some current stars in the NHL is all.

He'll grow.

 

[Peiskos]

World Juniors and barely outproducing another player his same age in an extremely weak WHL but people think he’s better going to be as good/better than Crosby or McDavid. Lmao.

I think he has an elite skill set but unless he grows another 2 inches and puts on some more weight he won’t be more than a MacK level talent, which is obviously still elite.

But Crosby is 5'11

 

[Connor McConnor]

But Crosby is 5'11

Crosby was atleast 10 lbs heavier at the same age, let alone much better

 

[Daximus]

But Crosby is 5'11

Yes but he's 6'4, 220 in our hearts.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Eberle is a middle 6 winger, not a generational player.

I see a Pat Kane type, elite 90-100 point guy career but I don’t see a generational superstar. More Marner than MacDavid. My opinion, not facts. You can’t sway me to think differently. I’m just stating what I think.

So both Marner and Bedard are undersized, with Bedard being the vastly superior junior player in every way, but Bedard is only going to be as good as Marner?…I mean, stranger things have happened, but the logic doesn’t really make sense. Bedard might be a better junior player than McDavid. I don’t expect him to be on McDavid’s level necessarily, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be better than Marner.

Him, McDavid, and Crosby are the best junior age players in modern times, quite easily.

I’d comfortably bet on him being better than Marner, by quite a bit. His floor is probably Patrick Kane, meaning an Art Ross and a Hart Trophy or two, at least.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Bedard is already bigger than Marner, Kane, Kaprizov, Kucherov and Point were on their draft dates.

If you think his size is going to hold him back you're out to lunch.

Not to mention Bedard plays a physical game and doesn’t shy away from being a bit of a rat, much like Crosby in his younger days.

Bedard truly reminds me of Joe Sakic. Just a rover of a player and truly elite.

 

[Garbageyuk]

It’s not the total thing but if Patrick Kane or Mitch Marner were 6’2, 220, would they be on another level as players? Probably, yes.

I don’t think he’s going to reach a MacDavid or Lemieux level that some on here are thinking.

I feel he’s much more likely a 100 point guy than a 150 point guy like MacDavid. You know the hyperbole is out of control when guys jump on me for comparing him to a guy who’s a lock for the hall of fame.

When did this happen?

 

[Schenn]

I think he'll score 500+ goals and 1200 points. He'll be fine.

 

[francis246]

I see him as a Marner/Kane type player

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I think it’s fair to question Bedard being a generational player, but his size is not the reason.

The reason is you rarely see generational players.

Lol, this makes no sense.

2000's had Ovechkin and Crosby in the draft.

2010's had McDavid

2020's have Bedard so far.

There's a difference between calling everyone generational which tends to happen with every very good first overall (happened with Jack Hughes for example) versus a guy who's cant miss.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lol, this makes no sense.

2000's had Ovechkin and Crosby in the draft.

2010's had McDavid

2020's have Bedard so far.

There's a difference between calling everyone generational which tends to happen with every very good first overall (happened with Jack Hughes for example) versus a guy who's cant miss.

Who was generational and drafted in the 90s?

Getting Sid and Ovie in one decade was ridiculous.

 

[Canada4Gold]

2 times as many points as McDavid at the WJC so he'll be 2 times as good as McDavid

If someone can make ridiculous points about Eberle and Bedard I can do the same

 

[Devs3cups]

Who was generational and drafted in the 90s?

Getting Sid and Ovie in one decade was ridiculous.

I'd say Brodeur and Jagr were as close as it gets, if not generational. Other than that there's not much else I'd put in that category from the 90's.

Funnily enough, they were both drafted right on the dot, 1990.

 

[Peiskos]

I'd say Brodeur and Jagr were as close as it gets, if not generational. Other than that there's not much else I'd put in that category from the 90's.

Funnily enough, they were both drafted right on the dot, 1990.

I think Jagr was generational, one of the greatest players in history.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Connor Bedard is a good player but do the stats even matter ?
He's a pretty small guy, do you think he will excel in the NHL ?

I'm just comparing him to guys like Jordan Eberle or other players records he has beaten this tournament.
Good feat but the players records he broke aren't the best in the NHL, good but not the best.

Link here shows every record he has broken:

Connor Bedard's historic World Juniors: Every record the Canadian forward broke at the 2023 tournament | Sporting News

The name "Connor Bedard" has been written all over the World Juniors history books.

www.sportingnews.com

Great player but will he be able to compete with his size ? Seem like a small guy and might get run over a lot. Just my take.

My rebuttal is that i think he..........

 

[Gurglesons]

I'd say Brodeur and Jagr were as close as it gets, if not generational. Other than that there's not much else I'd put in that category from the 90's.

Funnily enough, they were both drafted right on the dot, 1990.

Jagr was not a generational player IMO and I’m a Penguins fan.

Brodeur is not even the best goaltender of his era.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It's 2022 not 1997.