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Prospect Info: Connor Bedard - 2023 1st - C, Regina

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belfour30 said:
I think he's gonna do about what Kane did, more goals, fewer assists than Kane but 70-75 pts.
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I think some are actually selling Bedard short at this point. Maybe all because of his height. Bedard just had probably the most dominant year of a JR player this decade. Yes to me he was more dominant then both Crosby and McDavid. McDavid had a stacked team and line. Both the Q and OHL were higher scoring leagues at those guys time vs Bedard in the WHL last year. Both had quite a few 100+ points guys, last year the WHL had two. Bedard had 148 points the next guy 107 ( in 11 more games). Also Bedard had 71 goals the next guy 50 (who also played 11 more games).

Also both Sid and McDavid had much more offensive support/linemates (especially McDavid). Bedard basically carried his line/team. Those other guy both had multiple 100+ point guys. All guys dominanted there leagues though. So the tie breaker as to me as far as dominant year is the WJC performance of Bedard. Which was just unreal.

To me also as far as NHL ready physically, it was probably 1 Sid, 2 Bedard, 3 McDavid. Sid was probably the strongest as a 1st year pro, but he also came into a more physical style NHL. While yes McDavid was an all world skater, he was the weakest from a strength stand point of the 3. I really don't understand why people started buying into the Bedard may not be physically ready or small/tiny. Bedard is not small at all (he is short), he is 185 pounds of almost all muscle. Kid is a gym/rink rat.

Also the NHL is more open/ geared to scoring today (especially compared to Sids rookie year). I think Bedard low is probably ppg and he very well could break 100. Really don't see the whole Kane comparison at all. Love Kane but Bedard is just a more skilled kid. That and Kane came into the NHL at 160, while Bedard is 185.
 
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The main board are back to being idiots again. Saying how Bedard will struggle to get 50 points, how he’ll probably get injured and really isn’t generational at all.

As if he isn’t going to play PP1 and like 20 minutes a night, which he most certainly will. Jealousy at its finest.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
The main board are back to being idiots again. Saying how Bedard will struggle to get 50 points, how he’ll probably get injured and really isn’t generational at all.

As if he isn’t going to play PP1 and like 20 minutes a night, which he most certainly will. Jealousy at its finest.
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Best to ignore them. All jealousy and hate. I see 90-100 points from him.
 
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I am OK if Bedard hits 50 or 60 points this year so we still land a top 5 pick next year lol.

The same inbred morons who trounced Jack Hughes and his rookie year are going to look equally if not even bigger morons doubting Bedard.

I give almost zero shits about this kids rookie season point totals..it will start to matter in 2 to 3 years when he is right there with McD and we are competing.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
The main board are back to being idiots again. Saying how Bedard will struggle to get 50 points, how he’ll probably get injured and really isn’t generational at all.

As if he isn’t going to play PP1 and like 20 minutes a night, which he most certainly will. Jealousy at its finest.
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They never stopped being idiots. There's so much stupid on the main boards that I'm not sure why people even bother going there.
 
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He isn't even 18 yet and his team is going to stink. Expecting 90-100 is a bit rich for me even if it wouldn't surprise me either.

The last D+1 rookie to score more than 70 points was Kane. McDavid would have without his injury and Matthews got close (and scored 40 goals, which feels more impressive than 70 pts anyway, but he was already 19 when that season started- Bedard won't be 19 until after next year's draft). All three of those guys were playing on much better teams than what Bedard is walking in to with the current Hawks.

Bedard is definitely in that same stratosphere as far as talent, but there are a lot of brilliant players in that timeframe who didn't have that level of immediate success, guys like Tavares, Stamkos, MacKinnon.. it's true scoring is up now, so maybe expectations should be recalibrated a bit, but it also feels appropriate to recognize how difficult it can be to adjust to the NHL even for supreme talents. 50-60 points next year will not be some major disappointment as long as Bedard is improving as the season progresses
 
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Happyhary9 said:
I think some are actually selling Bedard short at this point. Maybe all because of his height. Bedard just had probably the most dominant year of a JR player this decade. Yes to me he was more dominant then both Crosby and McDavid. McDavid had a stacked team and line. Both the Q and OHL were higher scoring leagues at those guys time vs Bedard in the WHL last year. Both had quite a few 100+ points guys, last year the WHL had two. Bedard had 148 points the next guy 107 ( in 11 more games). Also Bedard had 71 goals the next guy 50 (who also played 11 more games).

Also both Sid and McDavid had much more offensive support/linemates (especially McDavid). Bedard basically carried his line/team. Those other guy both had multiple 100+ point guys. All guys dominanted there leagues though. So the tie breaker as to me as far as dominant year is the WJC performance of Bedard. Which was just unreal.

To me also as far as NHL ready physically, it was probably 1 Sid, 2 Bedard, 3 McDavid. Sid was probably the strongest as a 1st year pro, but he also came into a more physical style NHL. While yes McDavid was an all world skater, he was the weakest from a strength stand point of the 3. I really don't understand why people started buying into the Bedard may not be physically ready or small/tiny. Bedard is not small at all (he is short), he is 185 pounds of almost all muscle. Kid is a gym/rink rat.

Also the NHL is more open/ geared to scoring today (especially compared to Sids rookie year). I think Bedard low is probably ppg and he very well could break 100. Really don't see the whole Kane comparison at all. Love Kane but Bedard is just a more skilled kid. That and Kane came into the NHL at 160, while Bedard is 185.
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I agree with everything here. People are legit predicting 20-30 goals 50-60 point seasons and I don't think they're quite aware of the type of player he really is, that is more comparable to Crosby/McDavid than anyone else. Also the NHL in Crosby's rookie year was actually quite geared to wide open scoring as that was right after the lockout and they were calling every little stick infraction back then, go look at how much powerplay time players used to get back then as an example, or just the point totals of the top scorers. The NHL in McDavid's rookie season was still basically dead puck era levels, McDavid's 48 points in 45 games were good for 3rd in the NHL in points per game which is insane compared to how much scoring has risen recently.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
The main board are back to being idiots again. Saying how Bedard will struggle to get 50 points, how he’ll probably get injured and really isn’t generational at all.

As if he isn’t going to play PP1 and like 20 minutes a night, which he most certainly will. Jealousy at its finest.
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If an individual truly believes that Bedard will be a bust (or not as good as the hype) then why waste your breathe screaming to the world your opinion? Let it play out and should it comes to fruition you can have the smug satisfaction of being right.

What is happening with the main board is that they are not trying to convince Hawk fans he is going to bust, they are trying to convince themselves Bedard will be a bust as they are crying into their pillows that their team did not get him.
 
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HeisenBaez said:
If an individual truly believes that Bedard will be a bust (or not as good as the hype) then why waste your breathe screaming to the world your opinion? Let it play out and should it comes to fruition you can have the smug satisfaction of being right.

What is happening with the main board is that they are not trying to convince Hawk fans he is going to bust, they are trying to convince themselves Bedard will be a bust as they are crying into their pillows that their team did not get him.
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I cried in my pillows because we GOT him.
 
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So the #1burning question is which Hyundai model car does Bedard drive? DON'T think they have anything like the Corvette's Kane and Toews drove.. but then they were Country Club "stars "after the 3 Cups...Kane never figured out what a back-check or for that matter any check consisted of. And Toews coasted tgeough most of his last contract ....too busy driving those corvettes I guess...Now Bedard probably driving g a mire humble Hyundai model car..Readyvto "work"...at least till he wibs 4Cuos and then goes to the relaxation centre...
 
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So the #1burning question is which Hyundai model car does Bedard drive? DON'T think they have anything like the Corvette's Kane and Toews drove.. but then they were Country Club "stars "after the 3 Cups...Kane never figured out what a back-check or for that matter any check consisted of. And Toews coasted tgeough most of his last contract ....too busy driving those corvettes I guess...Now Bedard probably driving g a mire humble Hyundai model car..Readyvto "work"...at least till he wibs 4Cuos and then goes to the relaxation centre...
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Oh man - you were doing so good ... up until the thought of country club sent spasms to your keyboard thumbs. I wonder if there's a connection there?
 
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He hasn't signed his ELC yet. Either he is not going to make the team or he is pulling a Lindros as everyone prognosticated.

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I think Bedard gets 30+ goals. That shot and handle are amazing. It's more a question what his teammates do around him in regard to assists.
 
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piteus said:
I think Bedard gets 30+ goals. That shot and handle are amazing. It's more a question what his teammates do around him in regard to assists.
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Hopefully Hall can stay healthy, give him a decent enough winger to work with for most of the season.
 
Outsider fan coming in peace.

Was wondering what the expectations are for Bedard with the blackhawks fandom for next year and beyond?

I'm super high on hik and think he will be Mcdavid's heir in 2-3 years.

Can see him passing Bobby Hull as the greatest Blackhawk ever if he puts it all together.
 
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