Prospect Info: Connor Bedard - 2023 1st - C, Regina

[No Fun Shogun]

Absolutely. Kane was the best player drafted in the NHL between the Crosby and McDavid picks. If Bedard is “merely” the best player in a decade-long span age-wise, that’s incredible.

 

[ClydeLee]

Some of you have me feeling like I'm Laz

 

[Putt Pirate]

People worried about 1/2-1” of height are making me chuckle.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

Question. Would you take Kane’s individual career (no guarantee on three cups) for Bedard?

It’s kind of wild but I think I would feel pretty disappointed with that. Which is kind of ridiculous of me.

Kane's offense with better defense would be acceptable.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Patrick Kane - 5'10
James Van Riemsdyk - 6'3
Kyle Turris - 6'1
Thomas Hickey - 6'0
Karl Alzner - 6'2
Sam Gagner - 5'11
Jakub Voracek - 6'2
Zach Hamill - 5'11
Logan Couture - 6'1
Keaton Ellerby - 6'2
Brandon Sutter - 6'3
Ryan McDonagh - 6'1

If there was a re-draft which player gets picked 100/100?

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Patrick Kane - 5'10
James Van Riemsdyk - 6'3
Kyle Turris - 6'1
Thomas Hickey - 6'0
Karl Alzner - 6'2
Sam Gagner - 5'11
Jakub Voracek - 6'2
Zach Hamill - 5'11
Logan Couture - 6'1
Keaton Ellerby - 6'2
Brandon Sutter - 6'3
Ryan McDonagh - 6'1

If there was a re-draft which player gets picked 100/100?

Keaton Ellerby

 

[kmwtrucks]

I think he bottom mark for Bedard is kane level. I think he ends up at center. so that gives him a bump and at 17 he is already 10 lbs heavier then kane now. I think he ends up 5-10 195 or so 2 way center that puts up 40 and 60. Kane has the great hands but oustide of 2-3 years he tends to overpass and plays very AVG D. you could argue for the cup runs Teows was more important then Kane. 2 way 70 Point center who PK and shut down the other teams best line. won faceoffs. kane has been way better since 2015 then toews

 

[x Tame Impala]

I looked at the Capitals 05/06 season as a sort of example for what to expect with Bedard and the Hawks. They finished 4th last in the league depsite Ovie putting up 106 points and 52 goals. The trick was they gave up the 2nd most GA in the league which considering our current goaltending is something i think we can also expect this season.

 

[Malaka]

I think he bottom mark for Bedard is kane level. I think he ends up at center. so that gives him a bump and at 17 he is already 10 lbs heavier then kane now. I think he ends up 5-10 195 or so 2 way center that puts up 40 and 60. Kane has the great hands but oustide of 2-3 years he tends to overpass and plays very AVG D. you could argue for the cup runs Teows was more important then Kane. 2 way 70 Point center who PK and shut down the other teams best line. won faceoffs. kane has been way better since 2015 then toews

I say we pump him with some gh and have him grow a foot so we end this convo

 

[Toews2Bickell]

 

[thedarkstark]

Patrick Kane - 5'10
James Van Riemsdyk - 6'3
Kyle Turris - 6'1
Thomas Hickey - 6'0
Karl Alzner - 6'2
Sam Gagner - 5'11
Jakub Voracek - 6'2
Zach Hamill - 5'11
Logan Couture - 6'1
Keaton Ellerby - 6'2
Brandon Sutter - 6'3
Ryan McDonagh - 6'1

If there was a re-draft which player gets picked 100/100?

Apparently nobody can comprehend nuance.

There's a reason Bedard is going #1 and not Fantilli or Carlsson, he is far & away the best prospect and skill trumps all. But to pretend being taller isnt an advantage is idiotic. If size is completely irrelevant why is everyone gung ho about taking a big player at 19 & getting big linemates for Bedard? Because size is an advantage, it can help compensate for holes in your game. That obviously doesnt mean Bedard isnt going to be the runaway best player in the draft ffs.

Like seriously if you can't understand that then your parents and teachers have failed you.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

You want photos? I can send you all kinds of nasty pics of me rocking the CBH CB98 around town. I'll make it wild for ya.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Apparently nobody can comprehend nuance.

There's a reason Bedard is going #1 and not Fantilli or Carlsson, he is far & away the best prospect and skill trumps all. But to pretend being taller isnt an advantage is idiotic. If size is completely irrelevant why is everyone gung ho about taking a big player at 19 & getting big linemates for Bedard? Because size is an advantage, it can help compensate for holes in your game. That obviously doesnt mean Bedard isnt going to be the runaway best player in the draft ffs.

Like seriously if you can't understand that then your parents and teachers have failed you.

Congrats, you earned yourself an ignore.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Patrick Kane - 5'10
James Van Riemsdyk - 6'3
Kyle Turris - 6'1
Thomas Hickey - 6'0
Karl Alzner - 6'2
Sam Gagner - 5'11
Jakub Voracek - 6'2
Zach Hamill - 5'11
Logan Couture - 6'1
Keaton Ellerby - 6'2
Brandon Sutter - 6'3
Ryan McDonagh - 6'1

If there was a re-draft which player gets picked 100/100?

Kane ain't even 5'10

 

[TheFridge]

I think he bottom mark for Bedard is kane level. I think he ends up at center. so that gives him a bump and at 17 he is already 10 lbs heavier then kane now. I think he ends up 5-10 195 or so 2 way center that puts up 40 and 60. Kane has the great hands but oustide of 2-3 years he tends to overpass and plays very AVG D. you could argue for the cup runs Teows was more important then Kane. 2 way 70 Point center who PK and shut down the other teams best line. won faceoffs. kane has been way better since 2015 then toews

I don't think you just assume Bedard is going to put on another 10 pounds. He probably doesn't tbh. 185lbs at 5'9" is pretty sturdy.

Kane talked about trying to put on weight in his 4th or 5th year iirc. He found it nerfed some of his quickness. I'm not sure how many 5'9"ish players you see in the league pushing 200lbs.

 

[thedarkstark]

I don't think you just assume Bedard is going to put on another 10 pounds. He probably doesn't tbh. 185lbs at 5'9" is pretty sturdy.

Kane talked about trying to put on weight in his 4th or 5th year iirc. He found it nerfed some of his quickness. I'm not sure how many 5'9"ish players you see in the league pushing 200lbs.

Kaprizov is 5'10 202lbs, but Russian forwards are just built different. Ovie, Senko, and Kap are all way heavier than most other guys their same height.

Bedard will definitely put on a few lbs, but I wouldn't project a massive jump.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I don't think people get how tiny Kane was as a rookie. If he was 5'7 170 I'd say maybe. Guys have different body types. Bedard is built like a tank. He'll be fine.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Like I played with a kid that played in the ECHL. 5'7 165. I'm 6'1 230. Wasn't scared if Richie took a run at me. Played with with a dude who was 5'9 maybe 180. Pitbull of a man. That guy got a twenty foot head start he could put me in the hospital.

I don't like saying you need to have played to understand.... But sometimes you need to have played to understand.

 

[CallMeShaft]

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

I don't think people get how tiny Kane was as a rookie. If he was 5'7 170 I'd say maybe. Guys have different body types. Bedard is built like a tank. He'll be fine.

5'9" 160lbs at the 2007 NHL Combine for Kane.

I agree, Bedard will be fine.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

5'9" 160lbs at the 2007 NHL Combine for Kane.

I agree, Bedard will be fine.

No way he was actually 5'9.

 

[Hawkaholic]

No way he was actually 5'9.

On draft day, his stats were listed as 5'-10" 160lbs.

 

[giza]

I think because of the size and 200 foot requirements combined with pathological desire and ability to score goals, that he will move to wing to help enable that.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I think because of the size and 200 foot requirements combined with pathological desire and ability to score goals, that he will move to wing to help enable that.

lol, he is a perfectly fine 200 ft player that will only improve. He's not small, he'll be fine size wise.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

On draft day, his stats were listed as 5'-10" 160lbs.

I met the guy. No way he was three inches shorter than me.