Rumor: Colorado, Boston, Rangers looking at Atkinson

[S1N4TR4]

Another team to keep an eye on for pursuing Atkinson is the Avalanche. If I remember correctly, it was reported that they were scouting us heavily back in December for Atkinson in particular... wish I could provide a source but that was awhile back. Would have to do some digging.

 

[punk_o_holic]

Another team to keep an eye on for pursuing Atkinson is the Avalanche. If I remember correctly, it was reported that they were scouting us heavily back in December for Atkinson in particular... wish I could provide a source but that was awhile back. Would have to do some digging.

Um, the thread says Colorado(Avalanche), Boston looking at Atkinson.

No need to look for a source.

 

[S1N4TR4]

Um, the thread says Colorado(Avalanche), Boston looking at Atkinson.

No need to look for a source.

Embarassing. hahaha. Please do not mind me. It's late and yeah. no comment. I don't even know...

 

[thebus2288*]

Not very many realistic proposals (from the standpoint of the other team) here.

IDK the Atkinson+Golobeuf/Prout+2nd rd pick for the hypothetical imaginary "young, 35 goal scoring, RIGHT winger, on a good contract" is pretty close. Value-wise anyway.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Well, now that they are looking at him, do they see anything they like?

 

[Socks]

Well, now that they are looking at him, do they see anything they like?

They think he's a very snappy dresser (s4).

 

[Forepar]

This?

they think he's a very snappy dresser (s4).

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[Forepar]

I'm not at all concerned about what wing he's on, to be honest. My biggest issue with Sharp is that he's a short-term solution to a long-term problem. I'm not fully convinced he'll still be around by the time some of our kids are ready to go and learn from the guy.

I don't object to picking him up (ha ha ha )... but if we do I don't want to be doing so by sending away one of our roster wingers.



Chicago has been searching for a #2C for quite some time. Brad Richards right now is filling in, but he's not going to last for very long. I submit that interest in Anisimov might be higher than you might expect.

Whatever roster player goes back, tho, they'll unflinchingly insist on Rychel being part of the deal. Been discussing this with Chicago fans for quite some time now, and that bit has so far been non-negotiable.



We're presently missing our #1D, our up-and-coming top-line LW (possible future C), two of our better bottom-6 guys, and our starting goaltender. And have been shuffling guys in and out all year constantly. That tends to have an impact on team chemistry.



Truer words have never been spoken.

This sort of thing, alas, is why ridiculous prices can be commanded by sellers at the trade deadline. Because it's a Big Thing and folks want to be part of it.



I think what we need most at this point is a replacement for what Horton was going to bring, and some work to bring our fourth line up to the level most folks would consider acceptable for a third line. That's it. IMO Cam fits that just fine as a second-line RW who can pitch in on the top line now and again. Don't trade him just because we hoped he'd be better; what he is is still useful.



Okay!

I have no objections to improving the team on principle; I just don't think this apparent focus on trading Cam is the right direction. I keep seeing all sorts of ideas on "we can get this guy and that guy", but I've yet to see one actual depth chart. "Hope that someone earns it in camp" is not a roster stocking plan. That's why I object. Yes, everybody was awed and impressed by how well Rychel did in his debut, but unless a miracle occurs - and we've been awfully short on those lately - I guarantee many of those same onlookers will be shocked and appalled by how much he'll have "regressed". We still don't know how to watch kids developing without overreacting, and shouldn't be making decisions based on those impulses.

In agreement up to the "That's it." Imo still need significant upgrade on first pair D. I love Murray, but we need one more. Not sold on McElhinney as G backup, but we've got time to evaluate him. Maybe he's the answer, maybe Forsberg, maybe a FA this summer. Not a trade deadline issues. I agree with you, trade deadline moves can be too rich, and someone made the valid point that CHI probably would not part with Sharp at deadline, but only after Cup run. Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread, as most of the moves I would like to see are more likely this summer than at deadline. I didn't think I'd be a Patrick Sharp fan for CBJ, but the more I think about it, the more I like the fit. I know you want to keep roster players, including Cam/AA ; I get it, but in order to get better, need to give something up. I'd be ok with giving up a prospect like Rychel - I like the kid, but if that's what it took to get a proven 60-70+ player with still some in the tank and a few SC rings, I'd do it.

 

[Cowumbus]

Not trading anyone for Patrick Sharp. Love the guy but I'm not paying 5.9 for a 33 year old who will start to decrease stat wise as well ask think he may have his stats higher than what they really are by he plays on the Hawks just sayin

 

[major major]

Not trading anyone for Patrick Sharp. Love the guy but I'm not paying 5.9 for a 33 year old who will start to decrease stat wise as well ask think he may have his stats higher than what they really are by he plays on the Hawks just sayin

I'm guessing the club wouldn't care so much about the 5.9. They've shown in the past that if they have the caproom they don't mind using it.

 

[Sore Loser]

I'm guessing the club wouldn't care so much about the 5.9. They've shown in the past that if they have the caproom they don't mind using it.

In what regard?

The only thing you can really be alluding to is Nathan Horton, who was five years younger when he signed and had yet to start to decline.

I agree with avoiding Patrick Sharp ... he's heading eerily in the same direction as Simon Gagne.

 

[Viqsi]

In agreement up to the "That's it." Imo still need significant upgrade on first pair D. I love Murray, but we need one more. Not sold on McElhinney as G backup, but we've got time to evaluate him. Maybe he's the answer, maybe Forsberg, maybe a FA this summer. Not a trade deadline issues. I agree with you, trade deadline moves can be too rich, and someone made the valid point that CHI probably would not part with Sharp at deadline, but only after Cup run. Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread, as most of the moves I would like to see are more likely this summer than at deadline. I didn't think I'd be a Patrick Sharp fan for CBJ, but the more I think about it, the more I like the fit. I know you want to keep roster players, including Cam/AA ; I get it, but in order to get better, need to give something up. I'd be ok with giving up a prospect like Rychel - I like the kid, but if that's what it took to get a proven 60-70+ player with still some in the tank and a few SC rings, I'd do it.

While I concede that we could use another top-pairing defenseman, I should also point out that that's also true of about two-thirds of the National Hockey League. It's almost an empty phrase; it's like saying "y'know what we really need? A Cup win."

We have an acceptable defense right now, and at least one guy who might help make it exceptional. We're better off in that regard than most. If there's a magical opportunity to do better, that'd be one thing, but actively searching is more likely to lead to heartbreak and overpaid dead ends rather than actual help.

We get a vastly better defensive return on investment if we improve our forwards' backchecking.

 

[Forepar]

Dubi, Foligno, Letestu don't backcheck well enough? There may be some issues with forwards playing defensive and neutral zones well enough, but we'll just agree to disagree about whether current D is up to snuff.

 

[Viqsi]

Dubi, Foligno, Letestu don't backcheck well enough? There may be some issues with forwards playing defensive and neutral zones well enough, but we'll just agree to disagree about whether current D is up to snuff.

That's three of twelve.

 

[blahblah]

Nevermind

 

[ndd17]

Nonetheless Atkinson for Smith I agree both hands.

 

[MAHJ71]

Value has to be climbing with recent spur of points.

Maybe its me being optimistic.

 

[BluejacketNut]

keep improving that trade value

 

[ndd17]

Value for Atkinson is now the maximum, I don't think that it will be more to the deadline. Here and now, call to Chiarelli, we can get Smith without any surcharges.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Value for Atkinson is now the maximum, I don't think that it will be more to the deadline. Here and now, call to Chiarelli, we can get Smith without any surcharges.

Is Reilly Smith really an upgrade over Cam? I don't think so, I'd rather just hold on to Atkinson or move him for different pieces

 

[S1N4TR4]

Is Reilly Smith really an upgrade over Cam? I don't think so, I'd rather just hold on to Atkinson or move him for different pieces

Enlighten me; How in the hell isn't Smith an upgrade over Cam?...

 

[Viqsi]

Enlighten me; How in the hell isn't Smith an upgrade over Cam?...

I'd prefer a description of how he is. Specifics, in particular, rather than a "grass is greener" suggestion of "but OF COURSE he's better". Because from here it looks like that'd be a lateral move.

 

[Cowumbus]

I'd prefer a description of how he is. Specifics, in particular, rather than a "grass is greener" suggestion of "but OF COURSE he's better". Because from here it looks like that'd be a lateral move.

Smith in my opinion is more of a complete player as well as younger and has more upside. I think Smith + Eriksson for Atkinson + Hartnell + leopold could maybe help both teams and when cbj gets healthy

Foligno Johansen Eriksson
Jenner Dubinsky Smith
Anisimov Wennberg Morin
Calvert Letestu Skille

He also went to Miami ohio and cam went to Boston College kinda cool it's like a swap of states and teams

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

I'd prefer a description of how he is. Specifics, in particular, rather than a "grass is greener" suggestion of "but OF COURSE he's better". Because from here it looks like that'd be a lateral move.

If someone could logically explain how a move like this would be anything other than a lateral move that would be great. From what I've read on the trade forums and Boston's page, Smith doesn't use his body and stays away from contact. He had a good year last year, but at this moment I don't see him as an upgrade.

Smith in my opinion is more of a complete player as well as younger and has more upside. I think Smith + Eriksson for Atkinson + Hartnell + leopold could maybe help both teams and when cbj gets healthy

Foligno Johansen Eriksson
Jenner Dubinsky Smith
Anisimov Wennberg Morin
Calvert Letestu Skille

He also went to Miami ohio and cam went to Boston College kinda cool it's like a swap of states and teams

I'll take Atkinson and Hartnell on my team right now over Loui and Smith. Plus Boston wouldn't fit under the cap IIRC

 

[EDM]

Here is the point I have tired to make. Most of the proposals to trade Atkinson are essentially lateral moves. The "other guy is better" because he is on another team. So obviously, he is better. Cam is a 20 goal scorer. And when he plays right and keeps the wheels going, he can be a very good poke checker. Not is is true that he has been inconsistent. But I don't see the point of trading him to another team just to see them work with him and make him "consistent". I am not at all sure that TR has done a very good job of handling Cam.