Rumor: Colorado, Boston, Rangers looking at Atkinson
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Crede777
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A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush.
Cam is an inconsistent, 20 goal scorer. To offset the risk that comes with a new player on a new team, the player we would be acquiring should at least be a proven, consistent 20 goal scorer.
Lateral moves or taking on the risk of youth don't make sense in this situation. The gamble isn't worth it.
Cam is an inconsistent, 20 goal scorer. To offset the risk that comes with a new player on a new team, the player we would be acquiring should at least be a proven, consistent 20 goal scorer.
Lateral moves or taking on the risk of youth don't make sense in this situation. The gamble isn't worth it.
CBJWerenski8
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Agreed here. I wouldn't trade Cam unless it was for an upgrade, but I'm not sure if that's feasible.
niflheim
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We have to fire HCTR anyway, because next CBJ generation Alex, Milano, Bjork, Dano not compatible with his style. I suppose our style in 2-3 years will be more " hybrid" than present " hard working". Probably we needn't more " hard workers with character", we have enough now - Dubi, Nick, Hartnell, Boone, Jared + young Rychel.
Exactly...we should be moving towards a system/style of play that the Islanders and Kings play, not the hard nose nitty gritty style of play the Blues play (there's a reason they can't make it past the first round
)Exactly...we should be moving towards a system/style of play that the Islanders and Kings play, not the hard nose nitty gritty style of play the Blues play (there's a reason they can't make it past the first round
I'd put the Kings in the same camp as the Blues, not the Isles.
Jovavic
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Cam is a lite version of Geoff Sanderson. Not as fast, shot not as good, streaky as hell, when he's not scoring he's useless.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
Where in the hell does this particular mythology come from? He's fine enough positionally and is one of our best transition and possession-driving players. Sure, he doesn't push people around and he can get knocked off the puck, but that's just what keeps him from being a #1RW badass. He's still valuable.
Mayor Bee
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I'm like a lite version of my mother, except I'm taller, more muscular, have worse vision, am more logical and less emotional, graduated from a different high school, didn't finish a bachelor's degree, and don't sleep in the same bed as my father.
The similarities are shocking though.
- Jan 12, 2011
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I have read this thread and tried to stay out of the fray. But it sure looks to me that most people wanting to trade Cam are less about improving the team and really more about just getting rid of Cam. I think that's a big mistake. While Cam may have shortcomings, he can score goals and has incredible speed that makes him a dynamic player.
SuperGenius
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Well said, Moe. I've more or less relented to the idea that he'll be traded since Porty seems to be banging the drum hard for the second season in a row - but for the life of me I don't understand why an offensively challenged team (and many fans) thinks they can trade away one of the few truly skilled players they have.
Cam's okay in that regard. My read of the possession stats, however, is that Dubi drives the bus and Cam is just along for the ride.
Cam isn't misused, Cam just doesn't score a high percentage of his shots. He's 2nd on the team in shots on goal now 2 seasons running, yet he finished with only 21 goals last season, and will be hard pressed to surpass that this year. How can you say Richards is misusing him when only Johansen gets more shots on goal? Cam gets more than a fair share of prime ice time and opportunities, he just isn't converting at the NHL level.
I'll give him credit for getting shots off, there is something to be said for that, but he needs to learn how to beat NHL goalies.
I'll give him credit for getting shots off, there is something to be said for that, but he needs to learn how to beat NHL goalies.
He's a career 9.8% shooter. He is 9th on the team (7th among forwards) in the current season with a better % than Dubinsky, Anisimov, Wennberg, and Wonder Shot Skille.
WannabeFinn
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So you're telling me that our speedy sniper has a more accurate shot than our 2-way center?
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Two observations....shooting percentage is a nice stat but far less important than goals scored. Looking at a few stats form thi year, I see Jeff Carter - hate him but he can score - is just over 10% as is Marian Hossa. I would also add this team is short of players getting shots on goal....Seems to me he is among our better players at getting shots and is putting in more than most on this team.
Xoggz22
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I have no idea how to determine this but I wonder WHERE Cam shoots from? Is he struggling to get to the high % areas? I know he has a tendency to get knocked off the puck if he isn't moving and he's always been a shoot first guy so are they coming more from the outside? Is he not being put in a position to take a "good" shot?
I like Cam's skill and tenacity. I don't like his streaky play and feel his inconsistency coupled with his small stature create challenges for him that go beyond the score sheet. He's a curious case and when due for a likely raise does the CBJ want to invest that kind of money/term in another player that still has so many question marks?
I like Cam's skill and tenacity. I don't like his streaky play and feel his inconsistency coupled with his small stature create challenges for him that go beyond the score sheet. He's a curious case and when due for a likely raise does the CBJ want to invest that kind of money/term in another player that still has so many question marks?
Atkinson for Zuccarello?
Just wondering what everyone thinks. Could a deal be worked around this?
Just wondering what everyone thinks. Could a deal be worked around this?
I think what Zuccarello is asking is fair, and he would fit in well in our system.
In all honesety, this deal probably won't go down, but for the sake of argument. Could a trade be made straight up, or would we have to sweeten the pot a little?
In all honesety, this deal probably won't go down, but for the sake of argument. Could a trade be made straight up, or would we have to sweeten the pot a little?
Jovavic
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Zuc is the one that stirs the drink for NYR, no idea why they want to trade him before the playoffs
We already have $5+ million / year locked up in Clarkson, Dubinsky, Foligno, most assuredly Johansen in a couple years, and $4.75 million (cap hit) with Hartnell. Jenner coming due for a new contract soon not to mention Wennberg, Dano, etc. coming off their ELC's.
Not sure why would trade for a guy who wants as much as him. NYR would have to add a lot.
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