News Article: Colorado Avalanche Media Coverage Part VI

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I've refrained from a lot of DNVR/AJ talk just because I happen to consider him a personal friend and my opinion is worth no more than anyone else's.

That being said I will say a couple of things:

The harping on his weight is f***ing ridiculous. The guy is making efforts to change, and I'm supporting him in whatever way I can. I personally know how hard it can be. I used to weigh upwards of 350lbs and I lost a lot of that weight. I got down to 160 but am struggling right now, hanging right around the 195-200 range. It sucks. We're better than that, so let's act like it.


Now, on the subject of DNVR themselves...I think what we're dealing with is a difference of preference in what people want from their coverage. Most of us here have a differing opinion on what they want/expect; DNVR seems to have tapped in to something much different so they have attacked that head on. Before Harrison was born, MrsRL and I went to Denver and actually went to the DNVR bar during Game 3 of the series against St. Louis. And that place was packed full to the brim. I cannot imagine they didn't make $ hand over fist that night. The place was rocking all night and it was electric. They have diehard group of fans and they're marketing directly toward that market.

Does that mean that there's not room for growth? No, of course there is, and I think we're now seeing that attempt happen. I think the effort is there, but they're still in such an infancy as an organization that they're still finding their legs while making sure they keep the lights on.

That's about as diplomatic as it can be put I guess, especially being aware of your friendship. As much time as I spent on SB Nation, it's disappointing. There was plenty of shit talked about our media back then before AJ got a press pass.

There was way more raw data, and facts in the blogs there than you'd usually get in the BS the DP put out.

They started out trying to do more clean analysis, better game recaps, and honest information instead of hot takes, than the sort of casual fan opinion influence articles lacking data Dater spat out on the regular. Then they freaking hired him.

The point is not if you agree or don't with someone's analysis of the information. It's that information sharing, and professionalism come first. That was the gripe with Dater, too much personal opinion bias in how and what he chose to write. Pretty much for the entire DP crew. You could just tell how little effort was put into running down the facts, or that things were just twisted towards a perspective that got clicks.

If they're going to stay in that niche, do drunk pods, and be loud about their opinions with now a bigger mic. Fine, not something I'm paying for though.

Just much prefer TMVs style of putting in the work and sharing the information with a bit of analysis, and observation. At least someone is sticking to that moniker that has a press pass these days.

Our media has just such a giant shit show of a history, whoever is asking the real questions needs to be professional or they'll just be dismissed by the team.

Fair unbiased professionalism based reporting with actually hockey knowledge in the bag has always been in short supply, or we get the Athletic trying to keep it so PC they hire someone that doesn't know the game well enough to really deep dive anything with any substance.

Props on your battle, it takes vigilance and perseverance to do anything like that.
 

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The point is not if you agree or don't with someone's analysis of the information. It's that information sharing, and professionalism come first. That was the gripe with Dater, too much personal opinion bias in how and what he chose to write. Pretty much for the entire DP crew. You could just tell how little effort was put into running down the facts, or that things were just twisted towards a perspective that got clicks.

If they're going to stay in that niche, do drunk pods, and be loud about their opinions with now a bigger mic. Fine, not something I'm paying for though.
this is one of the best posts I’ve seen in here. I’m with ya man; not really on any particular media source but in general - I’m so freaking tired of reading tweets wrapped up with personal junk in them and clickbait’s. Hell even 50% of the time ‘news stories’ are just someone taking another guys new story and rewriting it. There’s not a lot of difference any more between a journalist and an ‘influencer’. And most journalists seem content towards moving to more of the ‘influencer’ side of the coin. I’m just not going to pay for someone’s opinions, no matter how loud they are.
 

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Alright, as a thank you to all the HF folks, I've created a membership code at CHN for $15 off a yearly sub. We went to a universal sub for all the sites recently, so the non-code sub price for a year is $39.99. With the code, you'll get it for $24.99.

If you anyone uses it, great, and I appreciate it. If no one uses it, I'll find where you all live.

Code is HF15
 

SirLoinOfCloth

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Alright, as a thank you to all the HF folks, I've created a membership code at CHN for $15 off a yearly sub. We went to a universal sub for all the sites recently, so the non-code sub price for a year is $39.99. With the code, you'll get it for $24.99.

If you anyone uses it, great, and I appreciate it. If no one uses it, I'll find where you all live.

Code is HF15
Very generous of you, however if it were me, knowing the amount of hot takes this place produces I'd be inclined to make the code actually charge HFers $15 more than the standard subscription. Hot-Take Surcharge ™
 

Bill Peckerskull

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Alright, as a thank you to all the HF folks, I've created a membership code at CHN for $15 off a yearly sub. We went to a universal sub for all the sites recently, so the non-code sub price for a year is $39.99. With the code, you'll get it for $24.99.

If you anyone uses it, great, and I appreciate it. If no one uses it, I'll find where you all live.

Code is HF15
What if we're already a member since Dater left and you took over?
 

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Alright, as a thank you to all the HF folks, I've created a membership code at CHN for $15 off a yearly sub. We went to a universal sub for all the sites recently, so the non-code sub price for a year is $39.99. With the code, you'll get it for $24.99.

If you anyone uses it, great, and I appreciate it. If no one uses it, I'll find where you all live.

Code is HF15
I'm in. Thanks.
 
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Foppa2118

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No broadcast in Dallas it looks like.

Interesting that the Avs went from one of the worst teams in terms of broadcasting pre-season games, to broadcasting all their home games this year, and being better than teams like Minny, Dallas, and potentially others.

We've all been critical of them in the past in that regard, so they deserve props for making the effort to improve.
 
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No broadcast in Dallas it looks like.

Interesting that the Avs went from one of the worst teams in terms of broadcasting pre-season games, to broadcasting all their home games this year, and being better than teams like Minny, Dallas, and potentially others.

We've all been critical of them in the past in that regard, so they deserve props for making the effort to improve.
What about radio? Do you know if they will at least broadcast this game on the radio?
 

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OMG, what a pair they're gonna be. Like Clint Eastwood and Mel Gibson doing a podcast.
Except Clint Eastwood, Mel Gibson and Brett Hull were all actually good at their jobs.

On a serious note, there's not an actual company behind this, sponsoring it is there? Because those two...together, unfiltered, live....Yeah, both HR and Legal might want to sit in on these with a five second delay button.
 
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The Abusement Park

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LOL Footer played 967 games with the Avs/Nords franchise. Cale's played 238.

Also, I remember Makar's critics saying he wouldn't replace Barrie's offense for at least a few years. Now he's on the verge of surpassing ALL his offense in Colorado.
I mean I don't even think Sea Eagles expected Cale to hit the level he has :laugh: I think there was a lot of optimism with his skillset, but he's a hitting incredibly rarified air.
 
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