AvsFanInMichigan
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The ESPN + version has a lot more Avs coverage. I’m watching that one now the one earlier was full of dead wings
News Article: Colorado Avalanche Media Coverage Part VI
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henchman21
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Bill Peckerskull
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Foppa2118
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I work in film/video/advertising so I know how these people think. Producers and the media in general just fall for easy narratives. And they like to distill it down to a simple story to avoid confusing the viewer. They've been doing it with Tampa and their "heart of a champion" narrative too.
The easy narrative for them over the years with the rivalry is Claude hit Draper in the playoffs and went on to win the Cup in 96. Then Claude got his comeuppance in 97 during the regular season and the Wings got their reepmtion story and won back to back Cups in 97 and 98.
So their story is an age old story of archetypes. The Avs are the "villains" and won early in the story as they tend to do. Then the Wings, the "hero" got their revenge against the bad guy Lemieux, beat the villain Avs in the playoffs, and won the Cup themselves. Then won again. End of their story. 2-1. Bad guy loses. Good guy wins in the end.
If they complicate things by emphasizing the Avs won the head to head playoff matchups during their rivalry 3-2, and were 3-1 in the prime of the rivalry beating the Wings in 6 and 5 games in 99 and 00, they think it will ruin their "story." That's more important to them than accuracy, even if they have to over simplify, and tell a misleading story.
Waiting to watch the E60 until later but hopefully they do a better job and place more importance on accuracy. Though it didn't look like it from the trailer. Still can't wait to watch it though.
AvsFanInMichigan
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It’s really weird that the one that premiered was different. Just finished the ESPN+ one it was good. Definitely had more to it.
Not surprising, the major moments only happened in Joe Louis Arena and they're an east coast team. They're chickens for sucker punching Claude and chickens for doing what they did only on home ice.
henchman21
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Today I learned Detroit is on the east coast.
MonsterMack
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AvsFanInMichigan
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The eastern time zone is weird here really weird. Especially weirder where I’m at on the West side of the state.
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Do you also find it strange that Claude and Darren have become friends but Kris seems distant from both?
RampoSanta
Landy was not offside
My favorite part of the documentary was the most attention I have ever seen paid to the Kozlov hit on Foote in game 3 as the real first cheap shot that crossed the line. No minor, no suspension. I have argued this point so many times - even over email with the likes of Dater and Frei - and this very much felt like some vindication.
Yes! Plus they way they rationalize the no call on that vicious as hell hit...10 stitches or less my ass!!
I said this on the main board thread, but Draper is easily the most unlikeable character in this Doc. I'm a softie at heart and even I felt nothing for him!
Watched the first half last night. Don't get why they spend disproportionate time on Detroit, e.g. talk about the Blue series but not our Blackhawks series.
10 year old me at the time, who watched every minute of that series, felt like the Lemieux hit was 100% fair game but had a bad outcome. Foote getting smashed into glass was just part of it. I did not remember, however, Claude running his mouth so much afterwards.
10 year old me at the time, who watched every minute of that series, felt like the Lemieux hit was 100% fair game but had a bad outcome. Foote getting smashed into glass was just part of it. I did not remember, however, Claude running his mouth so much afterwards.
Foppberg
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My favourite part is it not being available in Canada at all. It's great.
RampoSanta
Landy was not offside
I think the talk of the Blues series builds the idea that they were a frustrated team. 62 wins, best reg season ever. But they were getting tested in the playoffs, needing 2OT to win g7 against STL - a series they trailed 3-2 in. Now you get 2 games against the Avs to start the WCF - AT HOME - and lose both to go down 2-0. The dirty stuff then finally boiled over with Kozlov on Foote in gm3. They werent mentally tough and were starting to fall apart.
And the Avs didnt back down from the first cheap shot
CharlesPuck
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After the buzz for this show dies down in a week or two do we finally get to bury Dater's career?
Alright, which one of you sick f***s is gonna overpay for these?
dahrougem2
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Just watched the E:60 documentary on Avs/Wings.
- Kris Draper is a whiny bitch. Always has been, and this doc reinforced that. Let it go already you loser.
- As usual the media spends boatloads more time covering the Red Wings and their journey, their reactions and then their outcomes than they do the Avalanche. Perhaps because Lemieux was traded by the Avs in 1999 they didn't feel like anything after that was worthwhile? They still missed the 1999 series, though, that put an end to Detroit's attempt at a threepeat in spectacular reverse sweep fashion.
- Thought guys like Yzerman/Sakic/Forsberg would have more to add. Felt like they hardly spoke.
- Who knows the reasoning but strange to not include Adam Deadmarsh. He was one of the most physical players on the Avs during the rivalry and was always willing to fight any Red Wings player.
- Brian Burke probably believes the league should still be governed the way it used to be re: suspensions/fights/violence lol.
- Darren McCarty comes off as extremely likeable and rational. Even though he tries to wrongfully justify his sucker punch on Lemieux, the rest of his time spent he is very likeable.
- Marc Crawford looks like a dude that knows he was along for the ride reminiscing and didn't actually do anything to help the Avs.
All in all, documentary was just ok. Again, a disproportionate amount of time dedicated to the Red Wings like all the other attempts at covering this feud. A shame, really, given Adam Foote's comments pre-doc about how he hopes the Avs side gets a little more respect and coverage.
- Kris Draper is a whiny bitch. Always has been, and this doc reinforced that. Let it go already you loser.
- As usual the media spends boatloads more time covering the Red Wings and their journey, their reactions and then their outcomes than they do the Avalanche. Perhaps because Lemieux was traded by the Avs in 1999 they didn't feel like anything after that was worthwhile? They still missed the 1999 series, though, that put an end to Detroit's attempt at a threepeat in spectacular reverse sweep fashion.
- Thought guys like Yzerman/Sakic/Forsberg would have more to add. Felt like they hardly spoke.
- Who knows the reasoning but strange to not include Adam Deadmarsh. He was one of the most physical players on the Avs during the rivalry and was always willing to fight any Red Wings player.
- Brian Burke probably believes the league should still be governed the way it used to be re: suspensions/fights/violence lol.
- Darren McCarty comes off as extremely likeable and rational. Even though he tries to wrongfully justify his sucker punch on Lemieux, the rest of his time spent he is very likeable.
- Marc Crawford looks like a dude that knows he was along for the ride reminiscing and didn't actually do anything to help the Avs.
All in all, documentary was just ok. Again, a disproportionate amount of time dedicated to the Red Wings like all the other attempts at covering this feud. A shame, really, given Adam Foote's comments pre-doc about how he hopes the Avs side gets a little more respect and coverage.
Foppberg
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