I’ll humbly disagree. Frustrating loss but not pathetic given how hard they played but I think it’s pretty clear that Nashville is better than their record indicates. Especially if Saros plays well (which he did tonight).
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dahrougem2
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I would suggest claiming Nils Aman but he makes 825K and we know every penny matters this season. He makes less than everyone except Kiviranta and Wagner so you can't just send someone down to claim him.
I don't know that I agree with that. IMO the Avs were right there with them all night icing a ~60% AHL roster.
I am sticking with my prediction of them missing the playoffs.
I never bought the hype but I still don’t think they’re, like, bottom of the division bad. They might miss the playoffs but I wouldn’t bet on that. It’s still a team with talent and Saros is damn near elite when he’s on his game.
No way.
1st goal: Needs to be saved. If that was Georgiev, we would have a 2000+ post GDT bashing feast.
2nd goal: Not his fault.
3rd goal: He's behind the play getting suckered by a fake shot from the Predators player and loses his positioning, bad goal to give up.
4th and 5th goals: Empty Netters.
Avs got completely out-goaltended tonight, no arguments about it. We clearly had our chances, but Saros saved Nashville's bacon to keep momentum on their side.
I mean, the good teams don usually beat the worst teams in the league. That's justntoo much to ask of the Avs rn
As for Annunen, I thought he was fine. Not great. That first goal was bad. If anything, he deflects a shot that looks like it’s going wide into the net with his own glove. I didn’t love the third goal either but I didn’t think it was terrible.
Avs right now don’t have enough firepower to overcome their weaknesses. They were able to last year, not now.
Avs right now don’t have enough firepower to overcome their weaknesses. They were able to last year, not now.
Like I said, I thought he was fine. Not great though. I totally agree that first goal was a bad one. Third goal exploited his primary weakness—lateral movement.
dahrougem2
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I think the difference is in games Georgiev has played, the Avs have played wonderful defensively but still given up 4+.
Tonight the Avs were just ok (obviously with injuries) and Annunen technically saved 1 goal more than he was expected to. I didn't like the 1st one at all. The 3rd one I felt like the PKers were running around like headless chickens and he obviously bit hard on Stamkos shooting which gave Josi enough time to beat him.
katfude
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Stats say otherwise.
Shot Attempts 66-56 Avs
Shots on Goal 30-25 Avs
Scoring Chances 28-22 Avs
High Danger Chances 16-8 Nashville (Avs only 1 in the 3rd)
xGF 4.04-2.51 Nashville
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Annunen is the best goalie the Avs have atm. Ideally a starter would have been acquired during the offseason with Annunen as the backup, but that is asking for too much with CMac.
Third goal was not a bad one, wtf. It was a bomb from relatively short distance through a screen from one of our own player who tried to block the shot, but failed, Instead only made it harder for Annunen to see the shot.
Only first goal is one that he should have done better, but it was Stamkos one-timer from circle in powerplay. Better goalies conceded from Stamkos shooting like this.
If we were out-goaltended, its because they played 8-million per year perennial Vezina nominee, while we played a rookie earning 10 times less, who should be a back-up, but is asked to play no.1. Despite that still conceded only one goal more.
Agreed. We miss one player on top line, 2 on second, entire third line. Play AHLers and rookies instead. Play backup goalie cause the no.1. Is possibly in the worst slump of his career.
Despite that, we played close game with seemingly full-strength Nashville at their place. Dare i say were better team for 2 periods having better scoring chances. At very least, we were not outplayed, and given all the injuries, that was a feat.
And its not like Nashville are some bottom dwellers, despite their shit start to season. Josi, O’Reilly, Marchessault, Stamkos, Forsberg, Sissons, Saros - even if older, still pretty good core of players, that has a good chance doing play-offs this year. How can anyone call the narrow loss to them, especially under current circumstances, pathetic, is beyond me.
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This was apparently his first game with over 90 pecentage shot stopping this season - per commentators in my language. Obviously he is still great, but we made a choice to put our money into forwards and it was imo good choice- goalies are usually too inconsistent between seasons to be guaranteed to be paid like Saros. Had we our all forwards available, he may randomly stand on his head and deny them all, but over larger pool of games, we would trash them and even him would not help.
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We are missing all of our net front presence (Nuke, Lehky, Landy) and it showed last night as we couldn't find rebounds and bother Saros.
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A lot of people (me included) would've been extatic if we had gone after a guy like Markström on the offseason. Well, he's had a lacklustre start to the season as well.
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With the line-up they iced I can't really complain about the result.
My main lament is that MacKinnon gave me hope late in the game, only for it to be quashed almost immediately. ENGs against always sting, let alone 2 so quickly in succession.
My main lament is that MacKinnon gave me hope late in the game, only for it to be quashed almost immediately. ENGs against always sting, let alone 2 so quickly in succession.
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The xGA depends a bit where you pull it from. Some sites have any empty net shot as a full xG. Some still have partials. I’d bet if you pulled the 6v5 stuff he’s at or below expectation.
I don’t think Annunen was objectively horrible. The first goal was soft without a doubt. The third goal was more concerned. He got out of position and the Preds made him move where he got behind the play and gave up a goal most goalies should save.
Annunen’s claim on the net will be about not giving up anything soft. The third one will happen given his limitations. The first one can’t because his margin of error is so small.
In the end, this was two pretty bad teams giving their best AHL impression. Some very ugly hockey.
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The Preds have to be the slowest team in the league, right? Slowest I've watched so far, at least. That was painful
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Had a Halloween party last night, so only watched this game this morning :
Really poorly officiated game - Forsberg dove when he felt Ludwig's stick neat him but it didn't cause him to fall like at all.
Cole Smith lifted Kiviranta's stick into his own face - how these f***ing reftards could actually call that a penalty is beyond me. Why not just grab your opponent's stick and shove it in your face then?? Bednar just let it go...wake the f*** up!!!
The only highlight of this game for me was Prischepov. Frikkin' guy played amazing and should have had 2-3 goals, a couple of solid hits and good two-way play.
Lastly as far as OFFSIDES go, that might have been the absolute WORST game I've ever seen. I saw about 8-10 missed offsides on both sides where if a goal had been scored, it would have been called back. These f***ing schmucks need to be fired yesterday - no excuse for that :
The above pic was an attempted zone entry by the preds and you can see the jackass calling it onsides.
Really poorly officiated game - Forsberg dove when he felt Ludwig's stick neat him but it didn't cause him to fall like at all.
Cole Smith lifted Kiviranta's stick into his own face - how these f***ing reftards could actually call that a penalty is beyond me. Why not just grab your opponent's stick and shove it in your face then?? Bednar just let it go...wake the f*** up!!!
The only highlight of this game for me was Prischepov. Frikkin' guy played amazing and should have had 2-3 goals, a couple of solid hits and good two-way play.
Lastly as far as OFFSIDES go, that might have been the absolute WORST game I've ever seen. I saw about 8-10 missed offsides on both sides where if a goal had been scored, it would have been called back. These f***ing schmucks need to be fired yesterday - no excuse for that :
The above pic was an attempted zone entry by the preds and you can see the jackass calling it onsides.
I thought the Avs played relatively well (considering our situation) and absolutely had their chances to go back by a couple of goals. These stats back this up IMHO.
His biggest weakness is side-to-side movement and speed, when you do a fake shot, freeze him, and pass it across, means he lost any sort of positioning advantage he had and went into struggle mode. Some goalers who struggle, flop all over the crease like we saw with Varlamov, Rinne, and Fleury. Others who struggle, just try to make themselves look as big as possible. The advantage is that the athletic goalers can make saves they are normally not able to make. Annunen wasn't reacting to the one-timer with any reflexes whatsoever, he went into a large butterfly mode and "hoped" the puck hit him. It is absolutely a bad goal to give him by him not because it was weak by any means, but because his weakness got abused there for the GWG.
Remember we might be in the stage where there is not enough data or analytics against Annunen, which is how we're surviving with him. The true test is when he gets like 50+ starts and the analytic data goes from unreliable to reliable. We all know his weaknesses because we watch day after day here as hardcore fans, when teams know all you need to do is get him to move side to side, it could potentially open him up to a death sentence. I am writing all of this not because I want him to fail, I would freaking love for him to eventually turn into a starter, but I do have my concerns.
Saros clearly outplayed Justus yesterday, no doubt about that so when you let in weak-ish goals, they hurt even more.
Then the commentators made out shit, lol... i admit i was not bothered to check. Given the Preds shit start it seemed plausible.
True... my Sabres are pathetic.
The Avs are just beaten down with injuries and having no puck luck of late
Or prehaps, the Avs just currently present a good opportunity for a losing team to get well against....
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