One does not exclude the other. If Doma wins the battle for the spot, he'll play. That's the kind of player we need. In addition, there are other young men too.
Player Discussion: Cole Sillinger thread
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How does it sound like that? Isn’t it the exact opposite? Or is there something more in the article suggesting that (can’t see it)?
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Definitely sounds like he didn't take private skating practices before this offseason.
To give you more context: as far as I know, there haven't been any reports of Sillinger working on his skating in the offseason since being drafted, until this summer. A couple months ago Svoboda revealed this in his article:
Sillinger has spent summer working toward a bounce-back campaign | Columbus Blue Jackets
Still just 20, the Blue Jackets center has tried to learn from a tough sophomore season
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Also, read the sentence following the bolded one in Porty's story. I think those two sentences are substantially connected, meaning I don't think he would have written about Sillinger being a step behind last year if there was no mention of work with a private skating coach (this summer).
To give you more context: as far as I know, there haven't been any reports of Sillinger working on his skating in the offseason since being drafted, until this summer. A couple months ago Svoboda revealed this in his article:
Sillinger has spent summer working toward a bounce-back campaign | Columbus Blue Jackets
Still just 20, the Blue Jackets center has tried to learn from a tough sophomore season
Also, read the sentence following the bolded one in Porty's story. I think those two sentences are substantially connected, meaning I don't think he would have written about Sillinger being a step behind last year if there was no mention of work with a private skating coach (this summer).
9/17/2021:
"But those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, which is why Sillinger has worked with a private skating coach in each of the past two summers back home in Saskatchewan."
Blue Jackets' Cole Sillinger has been electric in Traverse City, but scouts have one concern
Those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, and he's been working with a private skating coach.
theathletic.com
Y'all read between the lines way too much.
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I’m before9/17/2021:
"But those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, which is why Sillinger has worked with a private skating coach in each of the past two summers back home in Saskatchewan."
Blue Jackets' Cole Sillinger has been electric in Traverse City, but scouts have one concern
Those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, and he's been working with a private skating coach.
Y'all read between the lines way too much.
“Ok but that just makes it worse that he still sucks!”
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Thanks, I didn't know this. I wonder if it's the same coach he's recently worked with... Last summer I wasn't able to find any reports of skating practices.9/17/2021:
"But those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, which is why Sillinger has worked with a private skating coach in each of the past two summers back home in Saskatchewan."
Blue Jackets' Cole Sillinger has been electric in Traverse City, but scouts have one concern
Those who understand the mechanics of a skating stride see room for improvement, and he's been working with a private skating coach.
Y'all read between the lines way too much.
Here's more from the same article, probably more out there with a Google:
"Brent Bobyck, a power-skating coach in Regina, Saskatchewan, said he started hearing from NHL scouts about Sillinger’s skating before he even started working him. Eventually, Sillinger — whose family spends their summers in Regina — contacted Bobyck for help.
Top-notch young players can be resistant to change, Bobyck said, especially if they’ve known nothing but success and are viewed as future NHL first-round picks and standout players. But Sillinger has always been eager to learn and open to coaching.
“Cole just soaks everything in and he asks questions,” Bobyck said. “He wants to get better.
“We really broke down his acceleration, trying to make him quicker out of the hole, and we’ve made some improvements in that area.”
Bobyck, who has worked with scores of NHL players over the last decade-plus, was asked for a granular breakdown of Sillinger’s skating.
“He had a little bit of posture issues and some kicking with his stride, a really high return. He had a high kick on his recovery stride, and that means you’re wasting energy. Skaters who do this, they come down hard, too, so they tend to have a little bit of a choppier stride with the high heel kick. We tried to create a little more ankle dip with his stride.”
The progress has been incremental.
“I’ve heard from some of those same scouts that they really think he’s cleaned up his skating and gotten a lot better,” Bobyck said.
“Not saying he wasn’t a good skater already. But he really has the potential to be an excellent skater because he just wants it so badly. And everything we’ve worked on is absolutely trainable, so I can’t wait to see where he gets to in a few years.”"
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I have to bump this thread.
Cole should not be in the NHL. His competitive nature keeps him playing but long term if he can't create separation he's not going to be effective.
Get him to the AHL and work on getting quicker.
Cole should not be in the NHL. His competitive nature keeps him playing but long term if he can't create separation he's not going to be effective.
Get him to the AHL and work on getting quicker.
Aren't there already like 7 too many players in Cleveland? He's looked improved to me this year, although not as good the last game or two. If they have a plan, communicate it to him & execute it, I have no problem with him staying up. Much like KJ.
He has 10 games left until he requires waivers. Send him down when Laine returns or just slide Roslovic to C.
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Sending him down when Laine returns makes sense. But no way would I return Roslovic to C when he’s playing his best hockey at wing.
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If they can develop a plan for KJ that keeps him with the big club they can do so for Cole. I know they don't do they same thing and what the club is looking for from their development isn't identical, but you'd think maybe there's a way they could rotate them in or something like that.
He needs the Bo Horvat training to take the next step imo. There should be a plan, I agree, but he plays every game so it leads me to think that there isn't really a "plan" like there is for KJ
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Sillinger has looked fine as a bottom 6 energy guy. Is that truly utilizing his strengths and helping his long term future? I don’t know. But he looks like an NHL guy, which he didn’t last year.
Will the offense ever come back? Don’t know that either.
Will the offense ever come back? Don’t know that either.
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Once Laine is healthy and KJ returns to favor I’m not sure where he fits. The 4th line is pretty well set with Kuraly and Danforth leaving the other wing the “battleground”. Right now it seems to me that Cole is no more effective than if Carson Meyer were in his slot (except that Cole does play center).
I’m rooting for him, but he needs more seasoning in Cleveland playing in the top 6 center role.
I'm definitely sending Cole down before he loses the waiver exemption.
He's not playing badly most nights but at his age I want to see him in more prime development roles in the AHL where he can dominate a little bit. He has offensive upside but I don't see him getting there if he stays in the NHL, just not enough time and space for him. Right now he's playing with a good edge you expect from a bottom sixer but we can get more out of him with a long term plan.
He's not playing badly most nights but at his age I want to see him in more prime development roles in the AHL where he can dominate a little bit. He has offensive upside but I don't see him getting there if he stays in the NHL, just not enough time and space for him. Right now he's playing with a good edge you expect from a bottom sixer but we can get more out of him with a long term plan.
The only forward I would play Sillinger over is Kuraly.
How he isn’t (and hasn’t been for awhile) in the AHL is beyond me and should be looked at as ridiculous.
How he isn’t (and hasn’t been for awhile) in the AHL is beyond me and should be looked at as ridiculous.
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2021 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
A sortable list of players drafted in the 2021 NHL Entry draft, including their career scoring after being drafted
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Cole Sillinger has played 19 more NHL games than any other player drafted in the 2021 draft.
Sillinger is 15-21-36 in his last 138 NHL games. A 21-point pace forward over the last season and a half worth of games.
It's so very obvious he needs 1C minutes in Cleveland but this bumbling FO group won't do it because they want to prove they were smarter than everyone drafting him in '21 or whatever.
It's so very obvious he needs 1C minutes in Cleveland but this bumbling FO group won't do it because they want to prove they were smarter than everyone drafting him in '21 or whatever.
In an interview with JD late last season before Sillinger was sent down (interview with Porty I think?), JD seemed exasperated when the Sillinger topic was brought up. He forcefully argued that Sillinger would be sent wherever was best for his development. It seemed like a well worn topic internally. I'm not sure but perhaps it's Jarmo that is too high on Sillinger, admiring his pick and not admitting that he needs AHL time.
No date/time stamp but there was a Behind the Battle episode and it was presented as leading up to the TDL and there was a conversation about sending Sillinger to Cleveland. It was edited to look like it was the first time they had discussed it as a group lol.
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