Joe Hallenback
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Sure if he wants that deal, I think it would have been done already. He might be banking on the next contract
Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick
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Sure if he wants that deal, I think it would have been done already. He might be banking on the next contract
I don't believe anyone has him making 7.75 million on a 7 year deal which would be the same contract KC got with today's cap. No one is arguing for Mark Cash either, people are just saying being down on him is silly as his production is reasonable given his age and usage.
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You are focusing exclusively on ELC years. Try looking at D+X years and age.
It doesn't work that way and you know it.
In D+3 Namestnikov played in the AHL.
I agree it doesn’t work that way. That’s why Pinto’s contract is totally irrelevant in this negotiation.
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And Connor then signed a LT deal that made him 2nd or 3rd highest paid Jet at the time. Or was it higher? He is still 3rd highest paid going into the 6th season of that contract.
What makes you think that offer was not already rejected?
Connor had 57 points in his draft +4 year and 66 points in his draft +5. He signed a year later than Perfetti as he came out of college.
And his defensive numbers and horrific compared to Perfetti.
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It isn't irrelevant if Perfetti's camp says it is. If that is what they are holding out for then it is entirely relevant.
not at all. you're the one that posted all these numbers how he is like scheifele, then said there's a a lot factors that going into it making difficult, then continuously on an and on posting un-contextualized comparisons with scheifele and whatnot.
anyway, we'll see if by the end of next year if Perfetti is a budding top-10 C like scheifele was thought of, i hope so
b/c that would be the best for the Jets.Completely missing the point, but that's fine.not at all. you're the one that posted all these numbers how he is like scheifele, then said there's a a lot factors that going into it making difficult, then continuously on an and on posting un-contextualized comparisons with scheifele and whatnot.
anyway, we'll see if by the end of next year if Perfetti is a budding top-10 C like scheifele was thought of, i hope so
You understand that if Perfetti doesn't turn into a top 10 center, there's still a good chance he's worth keeping, right?
yeah? not sure exactly how you gathered i want him off the team, b/c i never said he should be traded. i've said i think they should find a deal to sign him long-term multiple times in this thread. i guess good attempt of deflecting?
the problem is people on this forum get butt-hurt when they don't think perfetti's shit dont stink or he's not the second coming of some of the elite players in the nhl.
you're the one over-and-over posting these stats to posters, and making comparisons how he is or close to scheifele. so i will take the path of "we shall see" if he ends up in the similar tier of player as scheifele was by the end of 15-16.
That's why he got north of $7 M AAV on a long term deal, which would now be over $8 M in terms of cap hit.
He is similar to Scheifele. After his first three years.
If you don't want him jettisoned, than I guess we aren't arguing, are we?
why stop at connor?
in mark stone's draft+4 year he had 8 pts
in panarin's draft+4 year he had 0 pts
Agreed. There has to be an agreeable middle ground here.
I'm not down on Perfetti at all, i think he's a very smart player that is going to help the Jets get better but i also see a small player that needs to get a little faster . If Perfetti can get just a little faster with his skating he would be a homerun of a draft pick.
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The difference between Cole and Schief is that due to going back to junior for a year, Schief ended his ELC after his D+5 year whereas Cole ended his afrer his D+4
It was that D+5 year that schief broke out for 61 points in 71 games. That's why he got the deal he did. Had he needed to sign his second deal after his D+4 (like Cole), he would have had similar value to what Cole has now
TL/DR: schief earned his big deal long term deal in his last year of his ELC. Cole did not earn a big long term deal in the last year of his ELC
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I couldn't say that unless I knew for sure what he was asking for
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Because Chipman/Chevy want to save every cent possible on the Salary Cap. This way they can afford to add salary in a deadline trade. In return they’ll lose a 1st round pick for a player that won’t re-sign with Winnipeg next July. And the Jets inevitably lose in 1st round of playoffs. Rinse/repeat.
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forgive me if posted else where, didn't see either of these the last couple pages (but didn't look hard ill admit 
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kind of regurgitating what friedman said earlier today
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forgive me if posted else where, didn't see either of these the last couple pages (but didn't look hard ill admit
kind of regurgitating what friedman said earlier today
If the Perfetti camp thinks that Guenther is a comparable, I’m not surprised this deal isn’t done….
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The difference maker will be that the Jets can afford to start the season without Perfetti but if Perfetti wants to prove he's worth the money he's asking for, and more, he can't afford to miss time and start the season late. He'll sign on the Jets terms soon if he knows what's good for him in the long run, which is not maximizing his earnings on a 2-year deal.
I am hearing, yes, hearing, that a deal is done in principle. You can choose to believe me or not.
