Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick
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He had a really good rookie season but as other posters have mentioned we need him to stay healthier. The good news is he is not a perimeter player. The bad news is driving hard to the net and playing in the dirty areas is more dangerous.
HuGort
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Wanted him at draft. Before Habs upset Pittsburgh in Bubble and we ended up with Guhle. Just looked at Perfetti's stats this morning. He was high pick, goal scorer
He's much more of a playmaker then goal scorer. But he does need to learn to be more clinical on NHL goalies. He had more then enough chances last year.
MelikeJets
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Agree. He has a great shot but often deferred to linemates. Pretty common with rookies also -- saw plenty of that with Ehlers and even KFC. Not Laine, though, despite his passing chops -- he was fearless before that McCabe hit.
I wouldn't be too worried, the injuries haven't prevented him from making a positive impact in the top six in two different seasons now.
He looks like he is well on track to be a first line calibre player. Even if a guy is injury prone, I'd take that over a iron man 3rd liner with a top ten pick any day
He looks like he is well on track to be a first line calibre player. Even if a guy is injury prone, I'd take that over a iron man 3rd liner with a top ten pick any day
I like the kid but have doubts he can stay healthy. Of course it could all have been bad luck up to now
I think he'll get stronger and adjust his playstyle a bit also. Though as @ps241 noted above, the good and bad news is that he isn't a perimeter player.
Actually, I think he's likely to be injured less playing as a centre than he has been as a winger playing as a centre.
The kid was drafted as someone who was raw physically so he has some room to grow into his body. As he does I'm sure he'll stay healthier
Agree with this. He won't ne F1 in on the forecheck much as a C
Every guy knows the difference between how strong they were at 20 vs 25. It does make a big difference.
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And our centres aren't required to backcheck so there's that, too.
And our centres aren't required to backcheck so there's that, too.
Haha. Well unlike our other top 6 players Cole actually plays well in his end. Another plus to putting him at C.
Gabe Kupari
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Connor Perfetti Vilardi
Nino Scheif Ehlers
Couple good defensively responsible forwards with both kc and Mark
Plz no Connor Scheif under any circumstances
Nino Scheif Ehlers
Couple good defensively responsible forwards with both kc and Mark
Plz no Connor Scheif under any circumstances
are you talking gp or expectations?
gp injured again
expectations i had him pegged for 40-50 pts given he was going to playing top-6 with the likes of scheifele, pld, connor etc & he was in that range. i know some posters labelled him as 2nd coming of elite NHL super stars so not sure about theirs.
i have been less bullish on him being a C in the NHL, and has not gotten much time there since being drafted (including in the A). however, they will likely be down PLD this upcoming year, and Scheifele possibly this off-season or at the TDL. so he might be basically forced into a top-6 C (barring trade returns or signing) spot given no other or v limited options.
Gabe Kupari
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Ideally maybe you find a younger quicker guy than Nino but I think Nino plays well with the youngsters lol
He also adds size, a net front presence and enough scoring to hang with them. But indo like him more as the straw that stirs the offense on the third line with Lowry. So if possible I'd like to get two top 6 guys to push him down.
Other than Stutzle (1.15)and Mercer (.68), Perfetti had a higher pts/g than than other player from the 2020 draft that played 25 games or more (Raymond was .61 and Perfetti .59, pretty much a wash).
That includes Lafreniere (.48), Byfield (.42), Holtz (.21), Quinn (.49) and Rossi (.05) (drafted ahead of him) and Jarvis (48), Lundell (.45) who have generally been considered to have had good/great starts to their careers.
On top of that, his Defensive metrics according to Dom L's model are better than just about everyone from his draft.
So I would say no matter what your expectations were, he has at least lived up to them except of course for the injuries.
He’s getting into Nolan Patrick territory now. He may never be a regular NHL player.I like the kid but have doubts he can stay healthy. Of course it could all have been bad luck up to now
Don't think he had injury concerns or was injury prone prior to the nhl though like Patrick was.
Lucius is one that is troubling a bit
HuGort
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I was real high on Perfetti draft year. I had him 3 or 4. Forget now. I figured 30 goals, ppg playet
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And the injuries trump all of it -
Unless he can stay healthy, the metrics don't carry much weight -
I hope he can get his strength up because without a bump in that area, he'll be a target that can be taken out of any game with a clean, hard check.
And I get that can happen to anyone - but he's a lot more susceptible.
You have to assume the org realizes this after the last few injuries and are working with him.
Strength will add a huge dynamic to his game.
Totally agree that the best ability is availability but.....a number of players, bigger, stronger and other similarly sized, missed large chunks of the season last year and the year before due to injuries.... Jack Hughes, Dach, Byram, Caufield, Xhejaj, Guhle, Holloway, Drysdale, Byfield, Svechnikov,Farabee etc. and all about the same age. Many of those requiring surgery to fix shoulders etc. Perfetti has never had to have surgery.
Maybe it's rushing the kids that are highly skilled too quickly?
I truly think don't think he is more susceptible, just unlucky so far. Never had an injury prior to playing NHL games.
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I agree that the smaller guys are taking on a lot of injuries - but in this case, I don't think it's bad luck.
The reason he hasn't had a lot of injury issues leading up the NHL is likely because he hasn't faced the speed and strength the NHL brings.
Regardless, I'm in his corner - and I think the org sees the issue and is working with him on it.
IMO, the problem is obvious and so is the solution - and adding some muscle / weight shouldn't impact other factors of his game like it might others.
He doesn't based his game on speed or quickness - more about seeing the game.
