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Confirmed with Link: [COL/DET] Avs acquire Patrik Nemeth for a 4th rd pick

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Pokecheque said:
Wait, is that the same Erik Gustafsson currently playing for the Canadiens?
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I'm impressed, it's correct. This was a good junior team, if the rumours are correct they were dominating. One of the more talanted junior teams ever. I believe several of them are still friends, for Landeskog mostly Claesson and Gustafsson I think (but not 100% sure).

If you run this article through google translate (Swedish -> English).
Fostrade i Hammarby – nu tar NHL-svenskarna över Globen: ”Rätt sjukt när man tänker på det” - Hockeysverige
 
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I'm watching the game now, mostly though the 1st period, and Nemeth is literally the worst defenseman I've seen on this team this season. He was literally gliding back into the zone as *his man* was streaking towards the net unopposed. Every time there's been a defensive breakdown, I rewind a bit and, yup, it's #24 on the ice. Please, give me back out AHL callups. Nemeth is making Dan f***ing Renouf look like Nicklas Lidstrom
 
Wings fans said Nemeth was ass this season, usually I believe the fanbase that watches every minutes of their team.

Maybe its still an adjustment period and he gets it together or maybe not.
 
MarkT said:
I'm watching the game now, mostly though the 1st period, and Nemeth is literally the worst defenseman I've seen on this team this season. He was literally gliding back into the zone as *his man* was streaking towards the net unopposed. Every time there's been a defensive breakdown, I rewind a bit and, yup, it's #24 on the ice. Please, give me back out AHL callups. Nemeth is making Dan f***ing Renouf look like Nicklas Lidstrom
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I did the same thing. There were a few odd man rushes and I had to re-wind and sure enough it was Nemeth. And God damn, I don't remember him being this slow as molasses..

When Byram and McDonald come back he needs to sit.

Toews - Makar
Graves - Girard
Byram - McDonald
Nemeth - Timmins
 
JH21 said:
I did the same thing. There were a few odd man rushes and I had to re-wind and sure enough it was Nemeth. And God damn, I don't remember him being this slow as molasses..

When Byram and McDonald come back he needs to sit.

Toews - Makar
Graves - Girard
Byram - McDonald
Nemeth - Timmins
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I don't know who should play with who (not that it really matters since they switch it up so much), but my order of who should play is this:
1. Makar
2. Toews
3. Girard
4. Timmins
5. Byram
6. McDonald
7. Graves
8. Middleton
9. Renouf
10. Burroughs
11. Nemeth
 
MarkT said:
I don't know who should play with who (not that it really matters since they switch it up so much), but my order of who should play is this:
1. Makar
2. Toews
3. Girard
4. Timmins
5. Byram
6. McDonald
7. Graves
8. Middleton
9. Renouf
10. Burroughs
11. Nemeth
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Timmins shouldn't be higher than Byram, MacDonald, or Graves.
 
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Bednar admitted in the presser yesterday that Nemo wasn’t great but also added that because of his injury and the pause that he’s missed about a month of hockey and has some rust to shake off. He definitely looks a step behind to say the least. Unfortunately there’s not much that can be done, I don’t think anyone here would rather see Middleton or Burroughs.
 
I believe it's just an adjustment period. Nemeth should be fine #6D when he gets the hang of the system again.
 
Once we get Byram and/or MacDonald back I'd expect Nemeth to be a healthy scratch, or possibly 7D if Bednar opts for that route to manage PK minutes a bit.

Toews -- Makar
Byram -- Girard
Graves -- MacDonald
Nemeth - Timmins
 
Yeah, he'll be fine. Rough start but like Bednar said he hasn't played hockey in like a month really.


And yes he needs to be better, but I think people need to keep expectations in check a little as well. He isn't a Top 4 guy at all, he's brought into be a #6/7 guy who when he plays can take some of the PK minutes off of Toews and Girard/Makar. If we ever get back to being healthy he likely sits or is the #6 guy...


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard
Graves - Nemeth/MacDonald


And if EJ actually comes back in the playoffs he's the #7 guy for us.
 
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MarkT said:
I don't know who should play with who (not that it really matters since they switch it up so much), but my order of who should play is this:
1. Makar
2. Toews
3. Girard
4. Timmins
5. Byram
6. McDonald
7. Graves
8. Middleton
9. Renouf
10. Burroughs
11. Nemeth
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Timmins? Yeah no
 
Nemeth's play is not great by any means, but he's not pissing me off nearly as bad as Graves is currently. He's losing puck battles, making passes that get picked off on a regular basis, and taking penalties that are not only dumb, but lazy.
 
Another game where almost every time Nemeth is on the ice, the other team either scores or gets a good scoring chance. Please, please, please stop playing him.
 
Pokecheque said:
Nemeth's play is not great by any means, but he's not pissing me off nearly as bad as Graves is currently. He's losing puck battles, making passes that get picked off on a regular basis, and taking penalties that are not only dumb, but lazy.
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The dude also has no idea when to pinch and, more importantly, when not to. Last night I recall him flying into the O-zone trying to poke-check a Shark's player, completely missing, and then leaving them with an odd-man rush. Fortunately, we got away with it, but that is infuriating to watch.
 
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I come in piece from the Blackhawks board...I was hoping Chicago would have signed Nemeth back when he was a free agent and acquire him this last trade deadline...but you guys did...how are you liking him? Very complimentary to your young mobile defence corp...solid solid solid
 
Northernhawk said:
I come in piece from the Blackhawks board...I was hoping Chicago would have signed Nemeth back when he was a free agent and acquire him this last trade deadline...but you guys did...how are you liking him? Very complimentary to your young mobile defence corp...solid solid solid
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:laugh: You might come away glad your team didn’t sign him.

I’ll admit he brought some physicality against a Blues team that likes to play rough but I’m not sure it was worth the defensive gaffes and adventures with the puck. He’s not a horrible player but I’m not loving his second stint with the team. It’s a depth rental for a team that was navigating injuries on the blueline so it was worth it, but I definitely do not want him back past this season.
 
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Northernhawk said:
I come in piece from the Blackhawks board...I was hoping Chicago would have signed Nemeth back when he was a free agent and acquire him this last trade deadline...but you guys did...how are you liking him? Very complimentary to your young mobile defence corp...solid solid solid
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Deal. You can have him. No take backs.
 
In his current run with the team, Nemeth is okay on the PK and when physical play is called for. That's about it. He's even worse with the puck than I remember. Also, either the system changed or he seems to have completely forgotten the defensive system, because when they're a breakdown in our zone it seems like 75% of the time it's because he was out of position. Some of that is of course created by his poor skating abilities, but it's also his positioning. Offensively of course he's a complete black hole whose only purpose is to pass it to better players or shoot it around the boards.

I get why he's here, but it's a real shame the coaching staff wasn't able to find someone among our various AHL guys (MacDonald/Middleton/Renouf/Gilbert/Burroughs) to fill that role without being such a liability out there. If Grubauer was playing a little worse I think we'd have lost some important games by now directly due to Nemo's mistakes with and without the puck.

It's a shame because I remember in his first year with Detroit I was looking at stats and he seemed to be playing really well for them. I thought when we got him back we'd be getting a more polished defensive product who was aware of his strengths and weaknesses and just played a simple, reliable game - you know, play 10-15 minutes, kill penalties, and otherwise be invisible. Instead, we get a guy who thinks he can throw tape-to-tape cross-ice passes at his own blue line.
 
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