Confirmed with Link: [COL/DET] Avs acquire Patrik Nemeth for a 4th rd pick

[missionAvs]

3.6 Roentgen.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I just noticed that the only time Nemeth has had a positive +- was the two years that he was with the Avs.

Hopefully, if he's on a pairing with one of the four horsemen, he finds them and doesn't resort to icing so much.

 

[Pokecheque]

I just noticed that the only time Nemeth has had a positive +- was the two years that he was with the Avs.

Hopefully, if he's on a pairing with one of the four horsemen, he finds them and doesn't resort to icing so much.

He really cleaned up on the blind icings his second year with the Avs. His puck control improved leaps and bounds from his first NHL season. Not saying he was great with it, just a lot better.

He was partnered up with Jon Merrill in Detroit this season, another guy who isn’t exactly known for his puck skill. I imagine he’s psyched to be paired with someone who’ll do the majority of the puck moving.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Nemeth was a bright spot on this team for me for a couple of years. He played on some shit teams for us. I truly wished him better than the Red Wings as a destination when he left via FA. I'm glad to have him back in a supporting role as we make this run. It really is kinda cool to see a guy I really liked (even if he wasn't a star) for a few years make his way back to the team in a support position for a run. That being said, I'm not a huge fan of getting the boys back together (although free agent frenzy in February 2008 made me giddy as f*** even though asset management folks lost their shit over potentially losing Duchene after the fact.

In this case, it's a low cost move and one I think will be very viewed as extremely shrewd. Nemeth has the ability to play alongside every single d-man on the team. I don't expect to see him be a regular on anything other than the 3rd pairing and think that is where he will play for the most part. But...he will be an option for defensive zone draws in tight games late. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take to the ice with one of the big 3 in those situations. He's reliable enough that Bednar can throw him out to help manage the minutes on the big three and not really worry about it. He's going to make a lot of friends on this team just because he's steady. I always viewed him as a income-challenged person's version of EJ. Fairly well sized, not quite as mobile but really steady and decent on the PK. The question used to be, does his tendency to ice the puck have a worse impact on the PK than EJ's constant sliding around on the ice and getting out of position for committing too soon to the move? With EJ likely done for the season, this really is a low-key home-run signing. Will have a much bigger impact that most will see at first blush. He's just a perfect utility depth d-man who is good on the PK but tends to ice the puck a bit too easily especially late in games.

 

[21]

I think it's cool with Nemeth, Landeskog and also Landeskog's father Tony one of the coaches.

@xpatriatedtexan
You and me joined hfboards the same date. ;-) Aug 17 2005.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I think it's cool with Nemeth, Landeskog and also Landeskog's father Tony one of the coaches.

@xpatriatedtexan
You and me joined hfboards the same date. ;-) Aug 17 2005.

*LMFAO* That's because you are my burner account. The one I don't use when I'm high or drunk or fighting cancer.

It's kinda weird how technology has allowed folks with nothing more in common than a freaking hockey team (and many folks live hundreds if not thousands of miles from where the team is located) to become connected and kinda talk to each other. The world was much smaller when I was a kid...and then to think I've been talking back and forth with you for a couple of decades?

Without being through shit together, we've been a consistent presence in each other's lives for that long.

 

[CalderKing21]

Not a bad pick up at all. He was good for us when he was here during the first run.

 

[Metallo]

Nemeth was a bright spot on this team for me for a couple of years. He played on some shit teams for us. I truly wished him better than the Red Wings as a destination when he left via FA. I'm glad to have him back in a supporting role as we make this run. It really is kinda cool to see a guy I really liked (even if he wasn't a star) for a few years make his way back to the team in a support position for a run. That being said, I'm not a huge fan of getting the boys back together (although free agent frenzy in February 2008 made me giddy as f*** even though asset management folks lost their shit over potentially losing Duchene after the fact.

In this case, it's a low cost move and one I think will be very viewed as extremely shrewd. Nemeth has the ability to play alongside every single d-man on the team. I don't expect to see him be a regular on anything other than the 3rd pairing and think that is where he will play for the most part. But...he will be an option for defensive zone draws in tight games late. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take to the ice with one of the big 3 in those situations. He's reliable enough that Bednar can throw him out to help manage the minutes on the big three and not really worry about it. He's going to make a lot of friends on this team just because he's steady. I always viewed him as a income-challenged person's version of EJ. Fairly well sized, not quite as mobile but really steady and decent on the PK. The question used to be, does his tendency to ice the puck have a worse impact on the PK than EJ's constant sliding around on the ice and getting out of position for committing too soon to the move? With EJ likely done for the season, this really is a low-key home-run signing. Will have a much bigger impact that most will see at first blush. He's just a perfect utility depth d-man who is good on the PK but tends to ice the puck a bit too easily especially late in games.

The Avs made the playoffs both years he was with us.

 

[21]

The comments in the the Red Wings thread is a bit funny.

Good thing: Everybody really like how he played last season.
Bad thing: He hasn't been good this season (especially not now when traded to the Avs).

One thing is for sure: It's not easy to judge players in Detroit right now, the entire team has been struggling and hockey is a team sport after all, I am not overly concerned. I think he has a baby and a wife now, perhaps his life is slightly more stressful (hopefully in a good way).

Nemeth is a defensive stay at home type of defenseman (ok, most of the times anyway) and it's convenient blaming these kind of players not contributing much in scoring, it's common.

We will see how it works out. Hopefully Nemeth can keep up with the speed in this world class "dream team", that's my only concern, he isn't the fastest player out there... ;-) He is a strong guy though adding some physical presence which isn't a bad thing. Finally, perhaps one of the better PK players in hockey when playing up to his potential.

Nemeth is a junior world champion (one of the mvp's himself, his play leading up to Zibanejad's goal), AHL champion (scoring the winning goal) and we will see what happens now.

He has a good natural winner instinct but a bit too relaxed in general in unimportant games (it seems). Wish he could show his grit more often, not only in the finals. I believe he is the kind of player growing with a really tough coach. He isn't a leader but a loyal good teammate.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

 

[Foppa2118]

The comments in the the Red Wings thread is a bit funny.

Good thing: Everybody really like how he played last season.
Bad thing: He hasn't been good this season (especially not now when traded to the Avs).

One thing is for sure: It's not easy to judge players in Detroit right now, the entire team has been struggling and hockey is a team sport after all, I am not overly concerned. I think he has a baby and a wife now, perhaps his life is slightly more stressful (hopefully in a good way).

Nemeth is a defensive stay at home type of defenseman (ok, most of the times anyway) and it's convenient blaming these kind of players not contributing much in scoring, it's common.

We will see how it works out. Hopefully Nemeth can keep up with the speed in this world class "dream team", that's my only concern, he isn't the fastest player out there... ;-) He is a strong guy though adding some physical presence which isn't a bad thing. Finally, perhaps one of the better PK players in hockey when playing up to his potential.

Nemeth is a junior world champion (one of the mvp's himself, his play leading up to Zibanejad's goal), AHL champion (scoring the winning goal) and we will see what happens now.

He has a good natural winner instinct but a bit too relaxed in general in unimportant games (it seems). Wish he could show his grit more often, not only in the finals. I believe he is the kind of player growing with a really tough coach. He isn't a leader but a loyal good teammate.

Pretty hard for defensive defenseman to look good on bad teams too.

They get placed in tough situations way more than defenseman on other teams, and it's even harder to score than usual.

Not having a true #1G to bail you out makes it even harder to look good.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

As much as I'd like to see him paired with Makar, if Bo comes back anytime soon I feel like giving the kid a rock solid D first partner would really help him play his style of game.

EJ needs to come back too

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

2001 D vs today

Blake / Toews
Foote / Girard
Borque / Makar
Miller / Byram
Klem / Nemeth
DeVries / Graves
Skoula / MacDonald
EJ ?

Other than leadership (without EJ), I think I like this D is more finesse but not nearly has physical. I think this D is more cerebral and way faster. It is different but comparable.

Cup contending D? Got a good shot...
No, I didn't try to line them up as comparable.
With EJ...man, I love it.

 

[Avsboy]

2001 more proven

 

[Richard88]

2001 D vs today

Blake / Toews
Foote / Girard
Borque / Makar
Miller / Byram
Klem / Nemeth
DeVries / Graves
Skoula / MacDonald
EJ ?

Other than leadership (without EJ), I think I like this D is more finesse but not nearly has physical. I think this D is more cerebral and way faster. It is different but comparable.

Cup contending D? Got a good shot...
No, I didn't try to line them up as comparable.
With EJ...man, I love it.

Johnson/Foote is a more fitting comparison style-wise.

Blake / Toews
Foote / Johnson
Borque / Makar
Miller / Girard
Klem / Nemeth
DeVries / Graves
Skoula / Byram
Pratt / MacDonald

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Aaron Miller went to LA in the Blake deal, can't really have both on the 2001 roster

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

2001 more proven

Well, for sure. Will there ever be a comparable to #77 as far as longevity at a high level?
Blake would aim that hip at people and crush them.
We have nobody that can hit and harass like Footer.

Does anyone now have the puck poise that Skoula had?

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

Aaron Miller went to LA in the Blake deal, can't really have both on the 2001 roster

Good point, forgot about that. I remember feeling bad for him, but too excited about Blake to care for long.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Hey fella's, Jon Klemm had two "M's" in his last name.

Carry on.

 

[Avs71]

Wonder if we will see Nemeth tried with Makar. I wouldn’t hate it, other than Makar is always out with the first line and Nemeth won’t do much in the offensive zone.

Would be nice to see Makar be able to jump up into the play without seeing Ryan Graves already in front of him.

 

[Richard88]

Wonder if we will see Nemeth tried with Makar. I wouldn’t hate it, other than Makar is always out with the first line and Nemeth won’t do much in the offensive zone.

Would be nice to see Makar be able to jump up into the play without seeing Ryan Graves already in front of him.

I want to see Makar paired with Byram. Having a competent Dman to pass with at the point makes it easier to maintain dominance in the OZ to wear opponents down and create openings. Once the puck cycles over to Graves or Nemeth plays will inevitablu die on their stick or get aimlessly launched on goal to give up possession.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

The comments in the the Red Wings thread is a bit funny.

Good thing: Everybody really like how he played last season.
Bad thing: He hasn't been good this season (especially not now when traded to the Avs).

One thing is for sure: It's not easy to judge players in Detroit right now, the entire team has been struggling and hockey is a team sport after all, I am not overly concerned. I think he has a baby and a wife now, perhaps his life is slightly more stressful (hopefully in a good way).

Nemeth is a defensive stay at home type of defenseman (ok, most of the times anyway) and it's convenient blaming these kind of players not contributing much in scoring, it's common.

We will see how it works out. Hopefully Nemeth can keep up with the speed in this world class "dream team", that's my only concern, he isn't the fastest player out there... ;-) He is a strong guy though adding some physical presence which isn't a bad thing. Finally, perhaps one of the better PK players in hockey when playing up to his potential.

Nemeth is a junior world champion (one of the mvp's himself, his play leading up to Zibanejad's goal), AHL champion (scoring the winning goal) and we will see what happens now.

He has a good natural winner instinct but a bit too relaxed in general in unimportant games (it seems). Wish he could show his grit more often, not only in the finals. I believe he is the kind of player growing with a really tough coach. He isn't a leader but a loyal good teammate.

As a then employee of the team Nemeth scored that Calder Cup clinching goal on, I’ve asked that nobody ever bring it up on here again. Thanks. I watched that goal from the Zamboni gate. And on Hutch at that. f***ing Nemo

 

[Avs71]

I want to see Makar paired with Byram. Having a competent Dman to pass with at the point makes it easier to maintain dominance in the OZ to wear opponents down and create openings. Once the puck cycles over to Graves or Nemeth plays will inevitablu die on their stick or get aimlessly launched on goal to give up possession.

I agree, it’s just hard to know how Byram will be when he comes back from Covid/Concussion. I imagine he’ll be starting at 16 minutes a night on the 3rd pair.

 

[Pokecheque]

I think it's cool with Nemeth, Landeskog and also Landeskog's father Tony one of the coaches.

@xpatriatedtexan
You and me joined hfboards the same date. ;-) Aug 17 2005.

Wait, is that the same Erik Gustafsson currently playing for the Canadiens?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Wait, is that the same Erik Gustafsson currently playing for the Canadiens?

Yes he’s Landy’s best friend.