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Rod is setting up to play Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal in the locker room.
Confirmed with Link: [Col/Chi/Car] Rantanen (50% by Chicago), Hall, Nils Juntorp to Car - Drury, Necas, 2nd, 4th to Avs, 3rd round pick to Chicago
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Petterson seems to be damaged goods this year with knee issues.
I like last nights deal better.
BB88
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His own management also called him out, loud.
There’s been too many reports on him being difficult to deal with.
hangman005
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Rants this summer:
You'll have money for both right
You'll have money for both right
robbieberns
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This was in response to us going after a center now that we’re even weaker at that position, I kind of doubt they go after any sort of 2C option after swinging for Rantanen, but a proper vet leadership guy for the 4C would make a lot of sense.
Of note in the press conference, tulsky was directly asked if rantanen would play center. Tulsky deferred to rod, saying how the roster is used is up to him. So, potentially we are better at c than yesterday.
Which, really who knows, but they did this early enough we have time to really figure things out before the deadline.
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CanesUltimate11
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Right back Carolina where he thrives
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LeBruns article suggest Rants wasn’t set on 14M and would have taken less to stay than July 1st market would have given him
But Avs saw him as too expensive even at the Macks cap hit
But Avs saw him as too expensive even at the Macks cap hit
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HFB would lose its f***ing mind if he signs here for something around the MacKinnon contract
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Seems like the organization knows it's far from a guarantee he re-signs here for next year. Gonna be fun to see the fanbase react if Rantanen signs elsewhere this offseason. I imagine the Canes having a tough time wanting to commit to 13-14M per season. Will be interesting to see if we can convince him to stay.
Svechhammer
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Yeah what I'm reading from that is that we are willing to pay what he wants, what we need to do is make sure we convince him that Raleigh is a place he can see himself for the next 8 years, because the contract is there if he wants it.
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See, I read it as "We're not going to offer him what he's going to get in free agency, so we need to sell him on the team/area to take less to stick around"
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Can’t wait for the spin when he signs for 12.5-13M
If he goes to market then all bets are off because he’ll have no ties to that team
For Carolina I’d say it would be in the Mackinnon range and if Colorado ever offered Mackinnon deal he would have taken it
Remember he took a 9.25M deal the same summer Marner went for 10.95M
His past+ Lebruns article suggests it’s more about winning than max
Sigurd
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Great question about EP vs Rantanen.
To add to your pros and cons list of the debate, I think Rantanen is a much more consistent player for a super star than EP is though. Also, the cost to acquire EP would've been higher than what we paid to get Rantanen. Let's say Morrow was a demand as a + on top of Necas, Roslovic/Drury, 2025 1st round pick (this could be a lighter cost than what Vancouver was asking for all I know). Just Morrow alone as a plus is a big cost considering the fact that once Burns retires, our RHD depth is weak. If Morrow can be counted on for a top 4 role and is good, that's huge for our franchise.
Last thing is that Rantanen did play center when MacKinnon was injured, and he did well. We could play him as a center if Rod chooses to do so (as Tulsky said in his presser).
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I watched Necas 1st game in Colorado. He was on pp1 but on the right half wall as the left is McKs. He also passed up a super high scoring chance to pass to McK. All in all not an amazing debut but I'm sure he'll figure things out. I'd probably be a bit shell shocked in his shoes.
This actually gives me hope both teams win this trade:
Necas playing more minutes puts up more points.
Rantanen playing less minutes doesn’t have to conserve as much.
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Well you’d expect it as it was announced they hadn’t talked with Rantanen prior to trade
So basically they are starting from the beginning
It’s just about impossible to be able to play the minutes they’ve demanded and keep up the production
& with Mack you are always playing against the best and you are playing 22-24mins a game against the best every night
cptjeff
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Rantanen and Aho have been close friends for a long time, so I'm sure that KK has known him for a while now through hanging out with Aho.
And more than anything else, that makes me think we'll get the contract done. Having him here will make Aho happy. Playing with Aho will make Rantanen happy.
robbieberns
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He’ll get the full pitch/sell from everyone in the organization on the pros to living in the area as well as our competitive window for the duration of his contract. Nikishin arrival this summer coupled with additional cap to further strengthen the roster is a major plus. Also, 12.5x8 is two million total more than 14x7 from any other team. It could play out that there’s nothing we could do to convince him to sign here and he firmly sees his future elsewhere, but I am incredibly confident a deal is worked out.
Derailed75
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Im not sure how anyone can compare Petterson and Rantanen. Petterson had one outlier season, outside of that he is a clone of Aho points wise. Rantanen is better than Aho and Petterson by a good bit. This is a strong move by Tulsky and makes the team a lot better.
Not get some ink on the page Eric!
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Bender works his top players hard. Does all those regular season minutes play out come playoff time though?
hblueridgegal
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Their whole team and coach appeared to be in disbelief about it all in the interviews afterwards and completely caught off guard.
Jack, too, as he learned he was traded from his brother and thought it was a joke.
Posted on the main board, but I wonder if Hall is part of Tulsky maximizing cap space to set up a deadline move.
By retaining on Rantanen and taking 100% of Hall, Tulsky maxes out cap space before Carrier goes on LTIR. Then they have close to the full $2M from Carrier and they can move out Hall as part of a future move to get back $6M in cap space if necessary.
Do I think it happens? Maybe not, but it's a brilliant maneuver if Tulsky pulls it off.
By retaining on Rantanen and taking 100% of Hall, Tulsky maxes out cap space before Carrier goes on LTIR. Then they have close to the full $2M from Carrier and they can move out Hall as part of a future move to get back $6M in cap space if necessary.
Do I think it happens? Maybe not, but it's a brilliant maneuver if Tulsky pulls it off.
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