Meh, i think it was a bit facetious to lay all the blame on the coach for trying to impossibly motivate a team to play a 3rd place game less than 24 hours after being in a war against a monstrously physical and stacked Canada team. Especially when most of the team was already the silver medalists 4 years earlier and their motivation was all-or-nothing on avenging 2010.
Speculation: Coaching Search - Part III: Dan Bylsma deal "imminent"
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Meh, i think it was a bit facetious to lay all the blame on the coach for trying to impossibly motivate a team to play a 3rd place game less than 24 hours after being in a war against a monstrously physical and stacked Canada team. Especially when most of the team was already the silver medalists 4 years earlier and their motivation was all-or-nothing on avenging 2010.
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So you didn't think a stacked Russian team on its home soil was the main competition to Canada. I call BS on that, and most everyone before the tournament had Russia coming out of Group A.
Lundqvist was the best goalie in the tournament on a great Swedish team and then Rask was second on another great Finnish team.
Vancouver clouded the judgment of many in terms of international play, but the USA was the 5th best team going into Sochi. They lacked high end skill it takes to compete on the big ice. Too many good players, not enough great.
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Just throwing this out here....
A few years ago the most coveted coach out there that tons of posters here wanted was....... Dallas Eakins.
Whoever we get I hope is just far better then that.
A few years ago the most coveted coach out there that tons of posters here wanted was....... Dallas Eakins.
Whoever we get I hope is just far better then that.
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Scott Stevens would be interesting. Depending on what happens in New Jersey. While he was co-head coach this year, he might be better suited for an assistant gig. But we have plenty of young D that could benefit a lot from him and the Devils young D certainly has progressed. Phil Housley would likewise be an interesting guy to look at. If Housley would take an AHL head coaching gig I'd take him in a millisecond.
Wouldnt go anywhere near Dan Bylsma - After watching both Pens and Sabres the last 4 years he is the last person you want near your superstars and younger talent. totally clueless coach
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Eakins failed/over aggressive implementation of the swarm defense was really what killed him, he just didn't have the right personnel to run it. Funny thing is, the Sabres DO have the personnel to run it.
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Yeap, what a travesty guys like Staal, Neal, Crosby, Letang and Malkin turned out to be under Bylsma.
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What are you basing this off of?
I see a lot of hate on here for Bylsma and very few responses with justification. Please elaborate.
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Exactly..I thought Bylsma did a great job in Pittsburgh and his experience with Crosby would go a long way in coaching Eichel (if thats who they pick)
Well Malkin and Crosby are going to be Malkin and Crosby, but Blysma never put them in a situation where they could really damage other teams. He always got outcoached in the playoffs.
My last thought of Dan Bylsma is when they were down 2-1 in Game 7 VS Rangers last year, Rangers 4th line was on the ice for ever and they had to ice. Against a tired 4th line he put out the Craig Adams line.
They trade for Iginla at the playoffs, where does Bylsma put him, on his opposite wing and 3rd line- Not where hes been playing his whole life to not upset Pascal Dupuis.
Id be highly worried if i was a prospect / player not named Eichel or Reinhart - Because the treatment that Beau Bennett and Simon Despres copped, being forced to sit and never getting a shot for the sake of the old boys club is and continues to be a disgrace.
Pens didnt win the cup because of Bylsma, it was a hybrid Therrien system which worked.
Id elaborate more but im at work...
My last thought of Dan Bylsma is when they were down 2-1 in Game 7 VS Rangers last year, Rangers 4th line was on the ice for ever and they had to ice. Against a tired 4th line he put out the Craig Adams line.
They trade for Iginla at the playoffs, where does Bylsma put him, on his opposite wing and 3rd line- Not where hes been playing his whole life to not upset Pascal Dupuis.
Id be highly worried if i was a prospect / player not named Eichel or Reinhart - Because the treatment that Beau Bennett and Simon Despres copped, being forced to sit and never getting a shot for the sake of the old boys club is and continues to be a disgrace.
Pens didnt win the cup because of Bylsma, it was a hybrid Therrien system which worked.
Id elaborate more but im at work...
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You keep saying this over and over again. This would be a legit argument if Bylsma didn't already explain the benefit to throwing in the zone versus going one on one with a defender. Also, you complaining makes even less sense when Pitt was continually a top offensive team and overall team year after year. You think that maybe he stuck with the strategy because it worked??
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Then his best replacement is Blashill, majority of the team has played under Blashill and the young guys coming up currently play for Blashil so if anyone is qualified for taking over the Red Wings; it's Blashill. Tell me who knows the players strengths and weaknesses from Grand Rapids better than Blashill? He already has the players respects.
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Fair enough. Wanted to hear it from someone who follows the Pens closer than myself.
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Yeah you and other posters who say the same thing have me convinced he's not a good fit.
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Why did Malkin and Crosby's production fall so far this year?? Why did the penguins as a whole fall 11 points off from last year?
I hate to break it to you, but the playoffs were MAF fault. The guy was beyond awful. You just can't win like that.
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2013/5/8/4312126/marc-andre-fleury-stats-penguins-nhl-playoffs-2013
Sometimes young players are just not good enough. Both of those guys you said were not very highly touted in NHL circles. A guy like Olli Maata played a bunch. I think the whole young guy nonsense is complete BS. He played Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Letang, Neal, Kennedy a bunch.
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Tons of guys had career years under Bylsma. Maata, Kennedy, Neal, Kunitz, Niskanen, etc. Even a guy like Staal is no where near the player he was under Bylsma.
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Bad roster management from the GM. I also heard reports there was a rift in the locker room. Not sure what it was about but could have been ego's. Also the Penguins have been a top team for half a decade now and you know he saying what goes up must come down.
I could be off base but this is my understanding.
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Don't know how much scoring as a whole is down from 13-14 to 14-15 but Pitt went from 2.95 goals per game to 2.65 goals per game.
Jaime Benn lead league in scoring this year with 87 points. Last year it was Crosby with 104, but after that it was Getzlaf with 87. What that tells me is that Crosby's production dipped dramatically, but the other players are still at the same level.
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