No interest. Id rather Ottawa be handcuffed then deal with that contract long term
Ottawa is NOT handcuffed. Don't you guys understand how it works by now? You are only "handcuffed" when you are up against the cap and Ottawa hasn't been even close to be a Cap team in more than a decade...
What is surprising is that you are a global moderator and you say this... Maybe you just didn't think before posting. You sir deserve a mulligan
Based on deadline prices a player like MM would bring back a 2nd if he's retained (25-50%)
Take it or leave it.
We love Michalek but we'll leave it as we could still sign decent UFA players for 0 asset and less money
This is the kind of deal I was referring to a few pages ago. If the Sens need to pay either way, might as well get someone who can play!
Having Brown play 3rd/4th line minutes saves you (cash wise) the cost of finding another 3/4th line W (2ish million?) So you save 2 million in real cash, which is big for the Sens/any hard money cap team.
Dont think its worth much more than the 1 for 1, but could see LA retaining a bit of salary. At 1.2 retained, Brown gets paid the same as Mac. Cap wise, LA still has 4.65 million to spend on a replacement 3W, who should be a decent bit better than Brown. Could be a win-win.
Clarke MacArthur 4x$4,650,000
Dustin Brown 6x$5,875,000
That could be a solution but the problem is Brown has 6 years left vs 4 years for MacArthur. Works for the first 4 years, then becomes a burden the last 2
The post you quoted was from a Leafs fan. MacArthur doesn't make or break the Senators but if he was back to form, he would have been the Sens 6th best forward which is excellent depth (51 pts pace per 82 games the last 2 seasons he played). Losing him kills a bit of depth but the Sens have a guy named Ryan Dzingel who looks primed to do a very good job, so in the end it might not matter at all. There's also Nick Paul and Matt Puempel that could compete with him, as well as other very talented younger guys (but not ready). I think Dzingel runs away with it, he really makes me think about Carl Hagelin.
I dunno imo healthy his per game impact is still that of a 4 million dollar player (prorated on 82 games). in just 45 games last year he scored enough to be in your top 6 wingers, ditto the year before in 66. But when you're playing with a shorter stack the benefit of having him in the lineup is balance by the drawback of having 4million dollars of that thin budget sitting on the sidelines, and that's a luxury that Melnyk can't afford. I firmly believe that if money was less of an issue and the Sens wanted to ice the best team they could last year and this MM would not have been included in that trade.
What? He scored 16 pts last season... Stone (61), Hoffman (59), Ryan (56), Smith (36), Lazar (20) all outscored him. Would have been 3rd line RW on the Sens
The year prior, Stone (64), Ryan (54), Hoffman (48), MacArthur (36) all outscored him (34). He was on the 3rd line until injuries hit the team again.
You're right, respecting the budget is the reason why Michalek was included in the trade. The team would have been happy to have him. He is nice depth and well respected in the room, great work ethic too. But it was A LOT more important to acquire Phaneuf.
comparing Greenings 5.3 remaining over 2 years to MaCarthurs 18.4 over 4?
Comparing? What am I comparing lol? I just said that MacArthur could just be seen as a sunk cost, just like Greening was after they realized that he was not going to live up to his new contract.
Need more explications? Greening's extension kicked in by the start of 2014-15 season. He only played 26 games that year but was already a sunk cost burried in the AHL. The total amount for the whole contract owed to Colin was $7,950,000
Take Robias Lupul Michalek Cowen Greening Laich Horton and we'll take MacArthur.
My Gawd, luckily the Leafs are a rich franchise... How can you manage to have so many bad contracts?
If they didn't have all that money to play with, they could be even worse than they have been the last decade, if that's even possible.
Think the premise is Leafs give up a Lupul contract, maybe Hunwick (rumor being Ottawa wants a bottom pairing D man) (both insured) and with the addition being a second round pick.
Lupul seems the more likely of the two to play again, so you may get some serviceable 3rd line minutes out of him. If not, he stays on the IR and costs no real money.
So, Lupul + Hunwick + 2nd for MacArthur + Chabot/Brown ?
This sounds a lot more reasonable that other crap I have read in this thread. I really don't think the Sens would do it but at least you're onto something.
