Proposal: Clarke MacArthur to Toronto

[DrTucker]

Don't want to give up highly reguarded prospects? Then your 1st this year, and a future second along with MacArthur for Michalek will do

 

[Halla]

Chabot's ceiling is a top 2 d-man. He is showing signs of possibly being a #1.

If you think a prospect of Chabot's caliber would be included in a cap dump like this, you're nuts.

See Crouse, Lawson. He was the cost of moving Bollands 16.5 million remaining. MaCarthur has 18.4 remaining.

yeah you're nuts for thinking that the sens would have to give up a similar prospect for a similar cap dump SMH

 

[Slot]

Arizona is your dumping grounds.

Go there.

Not if the contract is uninsured it's not. Arizona isn't into taking on real salary dollars.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Ottawa is a budget team that needs its top prospects and kids to remain competitive. Chances are we'll just sit Mac and hope he gets better, and that one of our kids can fill that spot on the roster.

 

[varano]

Ottawa is a budget team that needs its top prospects and kids to remain competitive. Chances are we'll just sit Mac and hope he gets better, and that one of our kids can fill that spot on the roster.

Dude he's done. Hes never going to play again. Next time he gets hit he will have mush for brains. Its not good

 

[Briecheeze]

To get Clarke MacArthur off your books, you will have to be sending equivalent value with him. So unless you want to get Dustin Brown for your troubles, you should be asking yourself if you think Chabot or Brown are going to put your team $20million in the black.

Of course, if the contract IS insured, then the whole issue is moot, which I think is the best case Ontario for everyone involved.

Actually, this isn't a terrible idea. If the contract isn't insured, the whole problem for the Sens is that they are paying him real money, right?

Send MacArthur to LA for Brown, assuming LA has a LTIR slot open (not sure about that). LA gets out of that contract and can put MacArthur on LTIR, Ottawa gets an actual player for their money. (Similar to Horton for Clarkson)

 

[91Stammer*]

I'll be happy to take a 1st round pick for each of the years he is signed for starting from obviously 2016 pick Logan Brown.

 

[Warden of the North]

No interest. Id rather Ottawa be handcuffed then deal with that contract long term

 

[bert]

No interest. Id rather Ottawa be handcuffed then deal with that contract long term

Good I can safely say that the last thing the sens will do is help out the leafs. If ottawa did have to add assets to dumping MacArthur it wouldn't be to the leafs.

It certainly won't be Chabot either.

 

[sxvnert]

Clarke MacArthur's recent concussion appears to be career ending, Ottawa having $4,650,000 count against the internal budget will hamstring any chance they had at contention.

What would it take to convince Toronto to take on the financial burden, and help out a divisional rival?

Leafs have enough of their own burdens to worry about. Adding one with three years left is of no interest to anyone involved.

 

[MacerV]

Actually, this isn't a terrible idea. If the contract isn't insured, the whole problem for the Sens is that they are paying him real money, right?

Send MacArthur to LA for Brown, assuming LA has a LTIR slot open (not sure about that). LA gets out of that contract and can put MacArthur on LTIR, Ottawa gets an actual player for their money. (Similar to Horton for Clarkson)

Clarke MacArthur 4x$4,650,000
Dustin Brown 6x$5,875,000

It isn't a crazy idea but 6 mill is a lot of money to put into a forward not getting you much. Although the real world dollars goes down starting this year. I would imagine they hope he recovers rather than trade for Brown.

 

[ForSpareParts*]

Michalek + Greening + Cowen

Pretty much this.

Trash in trash out deal.

 

[SpezDispenser]

We won't be giving up Brown or Chabot lol.

Seriously though, what would it take to get Michalek back - with Toronto retaining a fair chunk of it.

 

[edguy]

Clarke MacArthur 4x$4,650,000
Dustin Brown 6x$5,875,000

It isn't a crazy idea but 6 mill is a lot of money to put into a forward not getting you much. Although the real world dollars goes down starting this year. I would imagine they hope he recovers rather than trade for Brown.

Yeah the Kings would need to retain to make Eugene do it. But even then 6 years as opposed to 4.

Would rather AMac or Matt Moulson anyday i think..

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Moulson for MacArthur

 

[russ4king]

We won't be giving up Brown or Chabot lol.

Seriously though, what would it take to get Michalek back - with Toronto retaining a fair chunk of it.

Actually I see a fit here. If Mac's contract is insured...they will want a top 6 on a short term deal. Michalek is in the last yr of his deal at 4m.

Michalek for a 3rd in 2018

No salary retention.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Actually I see a fit here. If Mac's contract is insured...they will want a top 6 on a short term deal. Michalek is in the last yr of his deal at 4m.

Michalek for a 3rd in 2018

No salary retention.

A 3rd with no salary retention? I think Ottawa would pass.

 

[Field of Dreams]

A 3rd with no salary retention? I think Ottawa would pass.

With salary retention, we'll get more at the deadline

 

[Brock Radunske]

We won't be giving up Brown or Chabot lol.

Seriously though, what would it take to get Michalek back - with Toronto retaining a fair chunk of it.

Based on deadline prices a player like MM would bring back a 2nd if he's retained (25-50%)
Take it or leave it.

 

[TheNewEra]

A 3rd with no salary retention? I think Ottawa would pass.

toronto gets more if they retain salary

either a 2nd for michalek+something small

or

michalek for a 3rd+something


cant expect toronto to retain salary and get a minimal return

 

[Clamshells]

Clarke MacArthur 4x$4,650,000
Dustin Brown 6x$5,875,000

It isn't a crazy idea but 6 mill is a lot of money to put into a forward not getting you much. Although the real world dollars goes down starting this year. I would imagine they hope he recovers rather than trade for Brown.

Dustin Brown for MacArthur actually makes a ton of sense, if LA was willing to retain the difference in money between Brown and Mac's contracts. (13.75m over 6 years = 2.29m/yr)

LA pays the same money (32.5m) but only takes the retention cap hit (Mac on LTIR)
Ottawa pays the same money (18.75m) but only a cap hit of 3.58m .(5.875 - Retention)

LA wins with the cap space. Ottawa saves money each year for the rest of Mac's contract (only paying 1.71 to Brown in the last two years), and get a player who can step on the ice.

 

[TML1967]

Actually, this isn't a terrible idea. If the contract isn't insured, the whole problem for the Sens is that they are paying him real money, right?

Send MacArthur to LA for Brown, assuming LA has a LTIR slot open (not sure about that). LA gets out of that contract and can put MacArthur on LTIR, Ottawa gets an actual player for their money. (Similar to Horton for Clarkson)

This is the kind of deal I was referring to a few pages ago. If the Sens need to pay either way, might as well get someone who can play!

Having Brown play 3rd/4th line minutes saves you (cash wise) the cost of finding another 3/4th line W (2ish million?) So you save 2 million in real cash, which is big for the Sens/any hard money cap team.

Dont think its worth much more than the 1 for 1, but could see LA retaining a bit of salary. At 1.2 retained, Brown gets paid the same as Mac. Cap wise, LA still has 4.65 million to spend on a replacement 3W, who should be a decent bit better than Brown. Could be a win-win.
Clarke MacArthur 4x$4,650,000
Dustin Brown 6x$5,875,000

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Leafs will start the season with 3 players on LTIR (Horton, Robidas and Lupul) why would Toronto want to add another LTIR contract to the ones they already have.

 

[FreeBird]

Clarke MacArthur's recent concussion appears to be career ending, Ottawa having $4,650,000 count against the internal budget will hamstring any chance they had at contention.

What would it take to convince Toronto to take on the financial burden, and help out a divisional rival?

If MacArthur was the Sens only hope to be in contention.

 

[russ4king]

toronto gets more if they retain salary

either a 2nd for michalek+something small

or

michalek for a 3rd+something


cant expect toronto to retain salary and get a minimal return

I thought of that originally...but Ottawa doesnt have a 2nd for the next 2 drafts.

So nothing there to sweeten the pot for retention. Also why I moved the 3rd to 2018 as well.