Value of: Chris Tanev

[Confucius]

Tanev and Reilly were a legitimate top-pairing on that team that won the World Hockey Championships last spring in Russia.....and they'd be even more effective together on the Leafs.

I know Leafs fans are all in on the 'draft-only' rebuild....but when you look at the teams that quickly joined the upper echelons of the League, it took more than luck in the draft. It also took a shrewd trade or two along the way, like trading a Tayor Hall for an Adam Larsson.

The only question is whether the Leafs consider themselves a playoff contender 'this year", or are prepared to sit back and wait for "next year".

If playoffs happen we'd be ecstatic, however Babcock has told us we are in for more pain. I'd think most fans would be happy to wait another year or two providing we are waiting on youth to develop and not bringing in Vets.

 

[Addison Rae]

lol not sure what you guys are expecting... top 6 C + 1st round pick + B prospect

Why does Vancouver want Bozak? He has absolutely zero value to a rebuilding organization who's trading their best asset.

When Toronto was rebuilding would they have valued a player of Bozak's ilk as a 2nd line centre?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Why does Vancouver want Bozak? He has absolutely zero value to a rebuilding organization who's trading their best asset.

When Toronto was rebuilding would they have valued a player of Bozak's ilk as a 2nd line centre?

Except your GM has come out and said they aren't rebuilding and that it would be unfair to say such a thing with the Twins there for another year after this. The only thing that would make sense to say is that you don't need another center given that you have Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, Granlund, etc there already.

 

[Confucius]

Why does Vancouver want Bozak? He has absolutely zero value to a rebuilding organization who's trading their best asset.

When Toronto was rebuilding would they have valued a player of Bozak's ilk as a 2nd line centre?

We still are, nobody thinks we're done.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Why does Vancouver want Bozak? He has absolutely zero value to a rebuilding organization who's trading their best asset.

When Toronto was rebuilding would they have valued a player of Bozak's ilk as a 2nd line centre?

Rebuilding? are you sure that's what you guys are doing? doesn't seem like it

Didn't Benning say he was looking for another top 6 forward in exchange for D? Bozak is a legit 2nd line C

 

[Addison Rae]

If the team was to trade their best d-man and best player they absolutely 100% would be rebuilding.

 

[Liferleafer]

Tanev and Reilly were a legitimate top-pairing on that team that won the World Hockey Championships last spring in Russia.....and they'd be even more effective together on the Leafs.

I know Leafs fans are all in on the 'draft-only' rebuild....but when you look at the teams that quickly joined the upper echelons of the League, it took more than luck in the draft. It also took a shrewd trade or two along the way, like trading a Tayor Hall for an Adam Larsson.

The only question is whether the Leafs consider themselves a playoff contender 'this year", or are prepared to sit back and wait for "next year".

Leafs can't afford Tanev.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Leafs can't afford Tanev.

You are starting to get it. You don't wanna deal Nylander and I get it. It's a lot to get to the playoffs I agree. But some days you just have to bite that bullet. You're not ready. It's ok.

lol, too funny. Tanev will fetch a mid to late 1st. He is not an elite d man, he is a solid defensive 3-4 guy.

Lol coming from a guy who roots for a team who payed more than that for a lesser defenceman, I just don't know what to say. The rest of that sentence should say it for me.

Is there a fair deal to be had based around Tanev for Kyle Connor?

So Connor as a secondary piece right? Because he's a clear tier below Nylander and that's the asking price. That level of prospect. Otherwise a package so stupidly good we couldn't say no.

Tyler Bozak
2017 1st round pick
Brandon Leipsic

Pure garbage. A lower end 2C better utilized as a 3C on a team with a Kesler like 2C a 10-14 first as your division is about as bad as our and the parity is stupid and a B prospect. So nothing of value that says top pairing defenceman. Fairly steady with the rest of Leafs fans for Lifer who has accepted his no-Tanev fate.

How close/fair is Kapanen, 1st and 2nd for Tanev and maybe a late pick 4th or 5th?

Condition being the 2nd is the highest of the 3 they own, I believe they owe Anaheim the middle pick.

Gives Van a good prospect who I personally think would work well on a line with Bae and Bo. Gives them a middle of the pack first and a 2nd to continue ton stock the cupboard.

Why do we add? You offer lesser pieces than we want and ask us to add draft picks to accept. Try again bud. Actually don't. That would be better.

lol not sure what you guys are expecting... top 6 C + 1st round pick + B prospect

Lol refer up

 

[Liferleafer]

In the Tanev Domi thread, fans of 29 teams stating that's horrible for Yotes.


In the Tanen for Drouin thread...fans of 29 teams stating no chance Tampa touches that.

But it's still Nylander or bust from TO huh? Nope.


Oh....and the Leafs can't afford Tanev.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

In the Tanev Domi thread, fans of 29 teams stating that's horrible for Yotes.


In the Tanen for Drouin thread...fans of 29 teams stating no chance Tampa touches that.

But it's still Nylander or bust from TO huh? Nope.


Oh....and the Leafs can't afford Tanev.

Being a Leaf decreases a players value by at least double their comparables on the trade board.

Also, not many fans are rushing to defend the Leafs on HF. If they were there've been so many Tanev threads that they've probably gotten sick of posting in the 10th thread on the same topic that doesn't even involve their team. I know many on both the Nucks and Leafs side are sick of them.

 

[Addison Rae]

In the Tanev Domi thread, fans of 29 teams stating that's horrible for Yotes.


In the Tanen for Drouin thread...fans of 29 teams stating no chance Tampa touches that.

But it's still Nylander or bust from TO huh? Nope.


Oh....and the Leafs can't afford Tanev.

The fact that Max Domi is seen as an overpayment shows just how grossly underrated Chris Tanev. Since 2013 his results are top 5 in the NHL for defensive play, personally I'd move Bo Horvat for Chris Tanev if Vancouver was competing and had a need for an RHD so that just shows we're not just overrating Tanev, he's actually really good at hockey.

 

[Skirbs1011]

In the Tanev Domi thread, fans of 29 teams stating that's horrible for Yotes.


In the Tanen for Drouin thread...fans of 29 teams stating no chance Tampa touches that.

But it's still Nylander or bust from TO huh? Nope.


Oh....and the Leafs can't afford Tanev.

I am a Canucks fan and I agree with you.

The same people are going to be the one who in 4 years after Tanev walks for nothing would be complaining that we should have traded him for anything.

At this point any thread containing the name Tanev should just be locked as there is nothing more to even discuss at this point.

 

[Moorpheus*]

What about 1st Kapanen Corrado and Carrick. One NHL ready defenseman, one potentially NHL ready defenseman a top 20 pick and a prospect with 2c upside.

 

[scorvat53]

What about 1st Kapanen Corrado and Carrick. One NHL ready defenseman, one potentially NHL ready defenseman a top 20 pick and a prospect with 2c upside.

No point of adding Corrado he is kind of worthless at this point... I think the value is not to far off maybe if you add another pick? That being said the Canucks will never trade him unless its so lopsided that it would be stupid to pass up...canucks are trying to make the playoffs, no matter who they trade for without tanev they won't make the playoff

 

[kanucks25]

Has he scored a goal yet?

Net value wise, is a goal scored worth more than a goal prevented?

He's a good defenseman but lets not get crazy!

Also, no dice on MM for any two players on the Canucks.

lol, too funny. Tanev will fetch a mid to late 1st. He is not an elite d man, he is a solid defensive 3-4 guy.

The guy is a Tanev hater that a ridiculous post to incite these kinds of comments you just made to add to the "Tanev is overrated" narrative.

"he is a solid defensive 3-4 guy" is a laughable comment.

lol not sure what you guys are expecting... top 6 C + 1st round pick + B prospect

The Canucks have absolutely zero need for Bozak, especially when we already have Sutter. Bozak is better, but they'd be competing for the same 3C role (Horvat is 2C and we have no 1C).

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Sad that the Leafs could likely never reach a trade for Tanev given the asking price. He'd fit like a glove beside Rielly. Tanev,Rielly,Gardiner and Zaitsev is a legit top 4. We'd be cup contenders by next year.

 

[kanucks25]

Sad that the Leafs could likely never reach a trade for Tanev given the asking price. He'd fit like a glove beside Rielly. Tanev,Rielly,Gardiner and Zaitsev is a legit top 4. We'd be cup contenders by next year.

It'd really be an excellent top-4 even if no clear #1 emerges. The Rielly - Tanev history is also a big bonus, they'd be one of the best pairings in the league.

No Canucks fan wants Kapanen as the centerpiece of the deal, and no Leafs fan wants to trade Nylander.

We have an impasse but these threads will keep coming up because of the fit you mentioned.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

It'd really be an excellent top-4 even if no clear #1 emerges. The Rielly - Tanev history is also a big bonus, they'd be one of the best pairings in the league.

No Canucks fan wants Kapanen as the centerpiece of the deal, and no Leafs fan wants to trade Nylander.

We have an impasse but these threads will keep coming up because of the fit you mentioned.

Oh, I know. These threads will no doubt continue. The Leafs have a plethora of pieces to offer but they aren't to Canucks fans liking. If the Canucks ever go with a rebuild it may make sense to deal Tanev to the highest bidder no matter the position (Kapanen) but they aren't at that stage.

 

[Canucks LB]

Nylander

 

[Trapper]

Nylander

I'm going to say no.
This has been done. It appears the Canucks (and perhaps their fans) want a top 6 forward in return for Tanev.

The Leafs do not have a top 6 forward to trade to Vancouver in a Tanev deal. We have prospects and picks. Therefore no deal. If we are trading Nylander, it will be more in line with his age, 20 years old. Not 27. A Parayko would have to be the return in a Nylander deal, not Tanev. And this is not a debate of his value or skill. Get the best deal for him Canuck fans. It just won't be Nylander.

 

[TOGuy14]

I think the biggest issue with any Tanev or VAN trade thread is the disconnect between what their fans think the team should do (rebuild) and what ownership and the GM are indicating they would like to do (re-tool and go for it)

I think ultimately VAN fans will be disappointed when the trade happens and it turns out to be a hockey trade like a JVR for Tanev swap instead of a future oriented move for picks and prospects

 

[Liferleafer]

Nylander

Not sure Buffalo would do that, maybe their fans will chime in.

Oh, and the Leafs can't afford Tanev.

 

[4thline]

This has been done. It appears the Canucks (and perhaps their fans) want a top 6 forward in return for Tanev.

Not just a top 6 forward.

Not even just a top 6 forward of comparable age and contract status to Tanev

No, has to be a U24 top 6 forward with RFA years.

That gets offered? Nope.
Has to be a former top 5-10 in the league prospect performing as a top 6 player on their ELC with major 1st line star potential.
No precedent of that kind of player being moved for prime aged 2D with UFA status at the end of the contract? Doesn't matter.

And no I don't think there is a deal to be made with the Leafs even if the nucks do go full rebuild, I don't think a playoff first would cut it (if we make it). Just amused/ salty about how a deal that both met the ask and mitigated the main reason not trade him was rejected out of hand.

 

[Superlative Soup]

I think the biggest issue with any Tanev or VAN trade thread is the disconnect between what their fans think the team should do (rebuild) and what ownership and the GM are indicating they would like to do (re-tool and go for it)

I think ultimately VAN fans will be disappointed when the trade happens and it turns out to be a hockey trade like a JVR for Tanev swap instead of a future oriented move for picks and prospects

The disconnect is from other fanbases jumping in logic from "re-tool and go for it" somehow meaning trade your best current defenseman.

 

[RookiefantasyGM]

I am a Canuck fan who actually understands Tanev won't get value as a top pairing Dman on the open market.

The Canucks should trade a Hutton, Sbisa or a Stetcher instead teams are not going to bend over backwards to obtain Tanev nor will they pay value for him for a top pairing guy.

So don't torture yourselves Canucks fans stop trying to move this guy because if and when he does move yoi will be very disappointed in the return, if you are expecting top 2 value back!