Value of: Chris Tanev

[Liferleafer]

You can write it like this but this isn't exactly very telling of the value.
TB clearly doesn't need an RHD as much as they need cheap contracts like Drouin. They have a cap situation. Arizona is almost the worst team in the league and have no reason to trade their best scoring forward for help on defense. It makes sense to let their young defensemen develop and just wait it out. Philadelphia has a ton of good defense prospects and don't have a need for another D.

I don't recall anyone asking for Marner. Marner is a bit out of the ballpark for Tanev. Nylander I still think is fair but I evaluate things a bit differently.
Think about it like this: Tanev would become one of your core pieces for the next couple of years. He'd be paired with Rielly and would be great to watch. If anything valued at Nylander and higher is off the table then we are gambling. But we most likely aren't getting a core piece back. It just doesn't make sense from Vancouvers perspective to trade for anything less than a core piece going forward.

But this has been discussed Nylander is off the table. I still think we can get a deal done around JT Miller.

Its also hard to describe why we Canucks fans think Tanev is so great. And there was a post of the Canucks forums that I thought described it perfectly. The change in how the Canucks play with and without Tanev is huge.

Nylander will be part of the core for a lot more tan 2 years.

 

[Cquant]

Nylander will be part of the core for a lot more tan 2 years.

I honestly think Tanev could be part of your core for longer than Nylander will. But that's still up for grabs.

 

[Street Hawk]

Nylander will be part of the core for a lot more tan 2 years.

Tanev is only 27. Same age as doughty. His ntc kicks in on July 1, but there would still be 22 teams the canucks could trade him to.

So, IMO, no reason to move him unless the return is great.

His style of game should still be effective for another 5 seasons.

 

[Ciao]

New to this thread. What have the leafs been offering? I see a decent trading partner as the leafs have plenty of young forwards that the Canucks could use.

Canucks wouldn't want anyone over 23 though as they are quite a few years behind the leafs in their "rebuild".

Seriously, I have seen threads enquiring about Tanev for a top-five overall pick, or for young very high-end talent.

Tanev is not young nor is he nearly as high-end as the younger assets Canucks fans want in return.

Tanev is a very good player, and as the poster a few above said the diiference for the Canucks with and without him is "huge".

Hes just not that good and his value is not that "yuuuge"!

 

[Hunter368]

New to this thread. What have the leafs been offering? I see a decent trading partner as the leafs have plenty of young forwards that the Canucks could use.

Canucks wouldn't want anyone over 23 though as they are quite a few years behind the leafs in their "rebuild".

Nucks don't want to trade their top pairing shut down D signed with term and a sweat heart deal. Leaf fans are offering secondary misc pieces hoping quantities will get it done....of course Nucks decline being playoff chase and win now mode with twins. Go round and round.

Normal day on the forum

 

[Ciao]

Clearly no team in the league can afford the best dman that has yet to score a goal. He's so good at shot suppression, he suppresses his own apparently.

Gold!

 

[Oates2Neely]

Seriously, I have seen threads enquiring about Tanev for a top-five overall pick, or for young very high-end talent.

Tanev is not young nor is he nearly as high-end as the younger assets Canucks fans want in return.

Tanev is a very good player, and as the poster a few above said the diiference for the Canucks with and without him is "huge".

Hes just not that good and his value is not that "yuuuge"!

Tanev surpresses more shots than Matthews. Kadri + Nyalnder + TOR 1st for Tanev seems fair

 

[Ciao]

Tanev surpresses more shots than Matthews. Kadri + Nyalnder + TOR 1st for Tanev seems fair

ROFL

Let know when you get that kind of deal for Tanev!

How about God and a second-round draft pick instead?

 

[Liferleafer]

Tanev is only 27. Same age as doughty. His ntc kicks in on July 1, but there would still be 22 teams the canucks could trade him to.

So, IMO, no reason to move him unless the return is great.

His style of game should still be effective for another 5 seasons.

I won't argue that at all. The Leafs just can't afford the price, it isn't a slight against Tanev.

 

[Liferleafer]

Nucks don't want to trade their top pairing shut down D signed with term and a sweat heart deal. Leaf fans are offering secondary misc pieces hoping quantities will get it done....of course Nucks decline being playoff chase and win now mode with twins. Go round and round.

Normal day on the forum

Yes...it sure is.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Tanev is only 27. Same age as doughty. His ntc kicks in on July 1, but there would still be 22 teams the canucks could trade him to.

So, IMO, no reason to move him unless the return is great.

His style of game should still be effective for another 5 seasons.

I bring it up in every thread and no one wants to talk about it but what about Tanev's durability makes you think he'll be as effective for the next 5 years? He literally plays as many games in a season as a starting goalie. He would need to string together 3+ seasons of 75+ games for me to believe that.

 

[Skirbs1011]

I won't argue that at all. The Leafs just can't afford the price, it isn't a slight against Tanev.

Just kind of curious what is the "Highest price" that Toronto will pay?

And just note that Kadri, Bozak, and JVR are all unwanted to our fanbase, and Nielson and Dermott are not all that interesting considering what we have in Tryamkin, Hutton, Stetcher, Subban, Juolevi, Brisebois and Niell. and I personally understand that Matthews, Marner and Nylander will not be included.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Morgan Reilly + TOR 2nd for Tanev?

 

[scratchhayes*]

Tanev is one of the more overrated players on these boards in years. Keep him Vancouver and enjoy mediocrity.

 

[Liferleafer]

Morgan Reilly + TOR 2nd for Tanev?

That's an easy pass.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

ROFL

Let know when you get that kind of deal for Tanev!

How about God and a second-round draft pick instead?

O2N is being a real **** disturber for whatever reason in this thread despite not cheering for either of the teams they keep making proposals for.

Morgan Reilly + TOR 2nd for Tanev?

This one doesn't even make sense.

 

[Liferleafer]

Just kind of curious what is the "Highest price" that Toronto will pay?

And just note that Kadri, Bozak, and JVR are all unwanted to our fanbase, and Nielson and Dermott are not all that interesting considering what we have in Tryamkin, Hutton, Stetcher, Subban, Juolevi, Brisebois and Niell. and I personally understand that Matthews, Marner and Nylander will not be included.

Well, considering you don't want any of our trade chips...and the 3 kids aren't on the table; there isn't anything TO can offer.....i mean the 1st, sure....but there isn't anything left to add except maybe Kapenen.

 

[Hunter368]

Well, considering you don't want any of our trade chips...and the 3 kids aren't on the table; there isn't anything TO can offer.....i mean the 1st, sure....but there isn't anything left to add except maybe Kapenen.

Agreed

The only pieces of value the Leafs have in the NHL or farm are:

1st Rd pick
KK
Kadri
Gardiner
Reilly
Marner
Matthews
Nylander
JVR

If none of those are a fit for a team or just not available then there can be no deal.

Gardiner/Reilly make no sense b/c leafs need to improve their current D, lateral or small incremental improvements aren't a help.

Matthews/Marner likely aren't available for any deal.

JVR has limited use to any team due to 1.5 year term before ufa. He would never bring a top 2 D with term.

Nylander could get some team attn if they have a glut of good D and need forwards.

/Kadri alone wouldn't return a young proven top 4 D with term.

KK/1st Rd pick don't even land a proven top 4 D with term.

So either Leafs need to lower their hopes or step up and offer Nylander or offer a deal of Kadri, KK, 1st of some combo (not saying all three, but two for sure plus maybe a 2nd or prospect) or they aren't go to land a top 2 or 4 D with term. They might land a D for less if the D had a 1-2 year term only before ufa.

 

[Addison Rae]

it's clear someone's upset that he got absolutely destroyed in a tanev argument in another thread, so he's just in here trying to get some attention, it really is childish for a grown man to be acting like that.

 

[Liferleafer]

it's clear someone's upset that he got absolutely destroyed in a tanev argument in another thread, so he's just in here trying to get some attention, it really is childish for a grown man to be acting like that.

Who are you referring to?

 

[The Drop]

it's clear someone's upset that he got absolutely destroyed in a tanev argument in another thread, so he's just in here trying to get some attention, it really is childish for a grown man to be acting like that.

It's pretty funny actually

 

[Scygen]

Well, considering you don't want any of our trade chips...and the 3 kids aren't on the table; there isn't anything TO can offer.....i mean the 1st, sure....but there isn't anything left to add except maybe Kapenen.

right.. so why are we still talking about trying to trade Tanev to Toronto... it doesn't make any sence for either team. move on to something else alreay..

 

[Liferleafer]

right.. so why are we still talking about trying to trade Tanev to Toronto... it doesn't make any sence for either team. move on to something else alreay..

If my post came off as snarky, it wasn't meant to be, i was genuinely answering a question. I am fully aware that Toronto can't afford Tanev.

 

[Scygen]

If my post came off as snarky, it wasn't meant to be, i was genuinely answering a question. I am fully aware that Toronto can't afford Tanev.

no it just doesn't make sense for Toronto to be selling their future for Tanev. Nylander is exactly the kind of piece the Canucks would probably be looking for. But Toronto is not in a place to make a trade. Canucks should be targeting a team that is one player away from winning the cup not in the middle of a rebuild.

Not to mention Jim Benning believes the Canucks can compete right here right now... Trading your top dman, is not something you do when you are trying to win.

 

[Moorpheus*]

Morgan Reilly + TOR 2nd for Tanev?

Bozak and a 7th for Bergeron marchand and pastarnak?