Player Discussion Chris Neil

Jtown

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Neil needs to bring the Ruckus. I would tell him if i were the owner " ANy fine you may incur we will make you whole again and then some once you retire"
 

DesertHombre

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Carey Price will have a lot of traffic in the next game. It would be a shame if the Habs best player and the best goalie in the NHL got put out of the playoffs, but the NHL has to know that the stage has been set for an open season atmosphere.
Also Habs fans have to realize that they will get little sympathy when a player of theirs is injured due to a border line play and no suspension is handed out. What was Therien even thinking when he called out the NHL and cried out when Zdeno Chara inadvertently took out one of the Habs best players.
 

TheNewEra

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Neil needs to bring the Ruckus. I would tell him if i were the owner " ANy fine you may incur we will make you whole again and then some once you retire"

ill start a gofundme page for him if its a big deal haha
 

h2

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From a Rangers fan who sees all sides of the game, Neil needs to play for you guys. You need one of those guys in your line up to ensure liberties aren't taken.

Also, the GM back and forth BS about what Soupcan said on the ice and how many threats there were, that stuff stays on the ice man. You don't bring that stuff up to the media, the GM looks like a baby. Settle the war on the ice and let the outcome and actions on the rink speak for themselves.

Normally I would agree with that, but I think Montreal is a special case and they deserve to be called out. The stickwork from that team is absolutely disgusting, they resort to those tactics because they can't play real physical hockey. I'd call them out too if I were Murray. If you listen to the full interview he said all the right things IMO. As a Sens fan I had no problem with any of it.
 

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The only reservation I have about playing Neil or Smith is that one had a broken hand and the other a dislocated wrist. Not sure how much fighting they can do now.
 

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As much as I would love for you guys to goon it up a bit by bringing in Neil, I think you'll have a better chance of winning the series by staying the course. You were the better team and a few defensive mistakes cost you the game. At the same time, Habs are soft as butter and might be intimidated...however, will be watching the next game as well and cheer for you guys!
 

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I don't think it will ease any of your pain.
I'm a habs fan, but I wanted to say that I am really ashamed of the way Subban acted last night.
From the slash to the little 5 year old kids jumping and whining after that.

I don't get how he got away without any suspension. A slash that way is not an accident and the puck was not even close to being there.

The hockey department is a joke on every call they make in the playoff. Someday, there will be someone dead on the ice and some NHL officials will still call it a hockey play. I hope Stone will get back, because winning like that is not great, it make me sick to win the way the Bruins used to win.
 

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I don't think it will ease any of your pain.
I'm a habs fan, but I wanted to say that I am really ashamed of the way Subban acted last night.
From the slash to the little 5 year old kids jumping and whining after that.

I don't get how he got away without any suspension. A slash that way is not an accident and the puck was not even close to being there.

The hockey department is a joke on every call they make in the playoff. Someday, there will be someone dead on the ice and some NHL officials will still call it a hockey play. I hope Stone will get back, because winning like that is not great, it make me sick to win the way the Bruins used to win.

Classy post. Wish more on your board were like you. Props.
 

saskriders

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The only reservation I have about playing Neil or Smith is that one had a broken hand and the other a dislocated wrist. Not sure how much fighting they can do now.

Neil travelled with the team to Philly, and skated in the warmup. He may be healthy.
 

JohnLennon

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Normally I would agree with that, but I think Montreal is a special case and they deserve to be called out. The stickwork from that team is absolutely disgusting, they resort to those tactics because they can't play real physical hockey. I'd call them out too if I were Murray. If you listen to the full interview he said all the right things IMO. As a Sens fan I had no problem with any of it.

Ottawa hits: 44
Montreal hits: 42

But the Habs can't play physical hockey...
 

h2

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Ottawa hits: 44
Montreal hits: 42

But the Habs can't play physical hockey...

You did nothing to dissuade my opinion, which is also an opinion shared by a majority of hockey fans with neutral affiliation.

Also, don't use hit statistics ever again, it's widely known to be an unreliable metric, counted in montreal home ice no less.


The Habs aren't tough and resort to stickwork. That's a fact.
 

JohnLennon

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You did nothing to dissuade my opinion, which is also an opinion shared by a majority of hockey fans with neutral affiliation.

Also, don't use hit statistics ever again, it's widely known to be an unreliable metric, counted in montreal home ice no less.


The Habs aren't tough and resort to stickwork. That's a fact.

I don't care about your opinion. I'm just saying you're blatantly wrong and proved that by giving the most obvious statistic available.

I find it funny that you resort to calling the statistic flawed to defend your biased opinion. Everyone knows the Habs aren't the small team they used to be, and have many tough players nowadays.
 

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Remember that scene in Leon the Professional where Gary Oldman's character tells his subordinate to ""send in everyone", and when his aide asks "everyone sir?", he totally flips out and yells with a contorted face "EVERYONE!!!"

Gary Oldman=Brian Murray/Dave Cameron

"Everyone"=Chris Neil

Maybes I'm being too dramatic.
 

Senscore

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Neil will do a great job running around irritating people and getting the Habs players distracted by him.

I doubt he will go out and commit blatant goonery. He has never been suspended and I don't think that will change.
 

pm88

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I don't think it will ease any of your pain.
I'm a habs fan, but I wanted to say that I am really ashamed of the way Subban acted last night.
From the slash to the little 5 year old kids jumping and whining after that.

I don't get how he got away without any suspension. A slash that way is not an accident and the puck was not even close to being there.

The hockey department is a joke on every call they make in the playoff. Someday, there will be someone dead on the ice and some NHL officials will still call it a hockey play. I hope Stone will get back, because winning like that is not great, it make me sick to win the way the Bruins used to win.


nice job. agree with this 100%
 

The Professional

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Remember that scene in Leon the Professional where Gary Oldman's character tells his subordinate to ""send in everyone", and when his aide asks "everyone sir?", he totally flips out and yells with a contorted face "EVERYONE!!!"

Gary Oldman=Brian Murray/Dave Cameron

"Everyone"=Chris Neil

Maybes I'm being too dramatic.
 

h2

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I don't care about your opinion. I'm just saying you're blatantly wrong and proved that by giving the most obvious statistic available.

I find it funny that you resort to calling the statistic flawed to defend your biased opinion. Everyone knows the Habs aren't the small team they used to be, and have many tough players nowadays.

Obviously you care about my opinion because you decided to reply initially.

Also, you just described the Habs as having "many tough players"? Please. Delusional much? They've been regarded as the softest team by a majority of neutral fans for several years, they haven't shed that label yet, especially when they resort to stickwork instead of hits when confronted as we witnessed last night.
 

JohnLennon

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Obviously you care about my opinion because you decided to reply initially.

Also, you just described the Habs as having "many tough players"? Please. Delusional much? They've been regarded as the softest team by a majority of neutral fans for several years, they haven't shed that label yet, especially when they resort to stickwork instead of hits when confronted as we witnessed last night.

You purposely just ignore actual facts and create your own alternate reality. The Habs basically matched the Sens in hits last night. Also, the whole "Habs are soft" dialogue has mostly disappeared. Like you said yourself, it was only relevant within the last several years, and much less so lately. I'm pretty sure you're one of the few people desperately clinging to your idea that they're still soft. With players like Devante Smith-Pelly, Brandon Prust, Dale Weise and Alexei Emelin, how could you?

You basically ignore the fact that you literally called the hits statistic flawed to support your point, yet whine about stickwork like it's an established fact.

You're the only one here who is just basing his opinion on speculation, which is why you're completely wrong.
 

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Carey Price will have a lot of traffic in the next game. It would be a shame if the Habs best player and the best goalie in the NHL got put out of the playoffs, but the NHL has to know that the stage has been set for an open season atmosphere.
Also Habs fans have to realize that they will get little sympathy when a player of theirs is injured due to a border line play and no suspension is handed out. What was Therien even thinking when he called out the NHL and cried out when Zdeno Chara inadvertently took out one of the Habs best players.

Yep the worst part about all of this is the revolting Kreider outcry last year meanwhile Subban is welcome to take out one of the league's hottest players, just the most outlandish collection of hypocrites and turncoats I've ever encountered. Please Sens just beat this ****ers.

Sincerely, 28 NHL teams.
 

Senscore

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Kinda funny that all this stuff about someone not seeing the facts and instead relying on public perception is coming from a poster named "JohnLennon"
 

h2

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You purposely just ignore actual facts and create your own alternate reality. The Habs basically matched the Sens in hits last night. Also, the whole "Habs are soft" dialogue has mostly disappeared. Like you said yourself, it was only relevant within the last several years, and much less so lately. I'm pretty sure you're one of the few people desperately clinging to your idea that they're still soft. With players like Devante Smith-Pelly, Brandon Prust, Dale Weise and Alexei Emelin, how could you?

You basically ignore the fact that you literally called the hits statistic flawed to support your point, yet whine about stickwork like it's an established fact.

You're the only one here who is just basing his opinion on speculation, which is why you're completely wrong.

When you use hit statistics to back up your claim, then yes, I'm going to ignore your "facts". It's a flawed metric. A Montreal resident is keeping tabs on the amount of hits thrown by the Montreal Canadiens last night. Does that seem impartial to you? It's the same thing for every team and everyone has a different idea on what constitutes a hit.

If Montreal's stat tracker includes stick infractions on the hit count, then yes, they probably matched Ottawa's hits last night. Take away Montreal's sticks and they fold over like cheap lawn chairs.
 

pm88

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I don't care about your opinion. I'm just saying you're blatantly wrong and proved that by giving the most obvious statistic available.

I find it funny that you resort to calling the statistic flawed to defend your biased opinion. Everyone knows the Habs aren't the small team they used to be, and have many tough players nowadays.

who says we care about yours?
 

JohnLennon

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When you use hit statistics to back up your claim, then yes, I'm going to ignore your "facts". It's a flawed metric. A Montreal resident is keeping tabs on the amount of hits thrown by the Montreal Canadiens last night. Does that seem impartial to you? It's the same thing for every team and everyone has a different idea on what constitutes a hit.

If Montreal's stat tracker includes stick infractions on the hit count, then yes, they probably matched Ottawa's hits last night. Take away Montreal's sticks and they fold over like cheap lawn chairs.

The game was clearly even in terms of physcial play if you watched it. The hits statistics simply matched that. Ottawa was credited with 44 hits, so clearly whatever the stat-taker constituted as a hit was counted both ways... Your complaint is just silly.

Regardless, the Habs have some big boys who throw their body around as I mentioned earlier, which you ignored, so I guess you can't really refute that. Can you name the soft players on the Habs roster that you seem to think they are filled with? I can only think of Desharnais and Parenteau, and chances are that PAP isn't even playing next game anyways...
 

GimmeMyJetpack

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When you use hit statistics to back up your claim, then yes, I'm going to ignore your "facts". It's a flawed metric. A Montreal resident is keeping tabs on the amount of hits thrown by the Montreal Canadiens last night. Does that seem impartial to you? It's the same thing for every team and everyone has a different idea on what constitutes a hit.

If Montreal's stat tracker includes stick infractions on the hit count, then yes, they probably matched Ottawa's hits last night. Take away Montreal's sticks and they fold over like cheap lawn chairs.

Really? As a Sens fan I feel like you are wrong. Montreal seemed to have no problem and even had advantage with hits last night. They played hard. Do i think they are tougher than Ottawa...nope. Does it matter? Probably not. Montreal is tougher than people give them credit for. They added some grit at the deadline which is what they needed. Did they have loads of stickwork last night? Sure. So did we.
 

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