Player Discussion Chris Neil

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got to think we're going to see neil in there. at least instead of smith. if michalek is back, then probably toss up between chiasson and neil
 

Baby Ryan

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I'd much rather have Chiasson moved to the left and Neil slotting into the right in Michalek isn't ready.

If he is ready, then hot damn IDK. I think I'd rather go with Chiasson instead of Neil, but if things get heated up slot him in there.
 

Viletho

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Chris Neil is a good playoff player. He should be in instead of Smith.

Chiasson-Legwand-Neil. It's not like Smith bring something right now. Neil will. Is going to play 7-9 minutes in the games, but at least they are going to bring something. And when you need him in front of the net, count on Chris Neil.
 

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Chris Neil is a good playoff player. He should be in instead of Smith.

Chiasson-Legwand-Neil. It's not like Smith bring something right now. Neil will. Is going to play 7-9 minutes in the games, but at least they are going to bring something. And when you need him in front of the net, count on Chris Neil.

^ Yessurree! Whack-a-mole featuring Neiler with a big mallet
 

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My guess is Neil has been good to go for the last little while, but Cameron has held off putting him back not to mess with the line up down the stretch. Now that they're officially in and are getting a few days to get ready for the playoffs, it's time to get Neiler back in there. He'll be a tremendous asset against the Habs in a 7 game series. Take out Chiasson or Smith. Smith has been truly disappointing. It used to be that he could be counted on to provide a spark and a good physical/agitating presence out there but he has apparently lost the will to play that type of game for some reason. He needs to wake up.
 

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I feel like Chiasson can be one of those unsung playoff heroes I'd rather have him in than Neil. I'm all for Neil in for Smith though.
 

Rysto

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Neil has nothing left in the tank. I love what he's done for the team over his career but the guy is quite simply done.
 

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Wow, some of these posts are completely detached from reality. Neil and Phillips have no business on this team anymore. If you want the sens to lose in 4, by all means, bring them back.

Now get out of 2007, please.
 

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Wow, some of these posts are completely detached from reality. Neil and Phillips have no business on this team anymore. If you want the sens to lose in 4, by all means, bring them back.

Now get out of 2007, please.

The "Changing of the guard " is complete. The game is way too fast for Phillips and Neil now.
 

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I think he can still be useful if he plays in the "Kassian" role. I would prefer Michalek over Smith though.
 

The Professional

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Wow, some of these posts are completely detached from reality. Neil and Phillips have no business on this team anymore. If you want the sens to lose in 4, by all means, bring them back.

Now get out of 2007, please.

LOL

So inserting a bottom six role player in the line up will get us swept in 4. Yeah, I'm the one who's detached from reality.:rolleyes:
 

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I think he can still be useful if he plays in the "Kassian" role. I would prefer Michalek over Smith though.

I would prefer a healthy Michalek over Smith on the LW for sure, but I would also prefer Smith over Legwand at center on the 4th line.

Turris - Mac - Stone
Zibanejad - Michalek - Ryan
Pageau - Condra - Lazar
Smith - Hoffman - Chaisson

In the case of Neil, I just don't think he is fast enough or good enough to help the team against Montreal.
 

Holdurbreathe

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LOL

So inserting a bottom six role player in the line up will get us swept in 4. Yeah, I'm the one who's detached from reality.:rolleyes:

I do believe he said Neil and Phillips and with those two in the line-up in what is projected to be a low scoring series, might just be the edge Montreal would need to sweep.

Anyone that believes Neil is going to be a difference maker just isn't being realistic.

For Neil to play, a better player is going to have to sit and that makes little sense IMO.
 

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I do believe he said Neil and Phillips and with those two in the line-up in what is projected to be a low scoring series, might just be the edge Montreal would need to sweep.

Anyone that believes Neil is going to be a difference maker just isn't being realistic.

For Neil to play, a better player is going to have to sit and that makes little sense IMO.

With the way Smith is playing, I'd be hard pressed to think that Neil could be worse.
I don't think Smith's wrist is close to 100%. He handles the puck like he has steel rods in his wrists. It's awkward and clumsy.

If something happens like Prust does something stupid and Smith hesitates to drop the gloves becuase of his wrist then that's all the reason I need to put Neil in over him.

And really, I don't think there will be any difference if Smith or Neil plays. Both are not exactly what you want in full-time NHL players.

now, if Michalek can come back, then it's a whole new story.
 

PeterSidorkiewicz

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I do believe he said Neil and Phillips and with those two in the line-up in what is projected to be a low scoring series, might just be the edge Montreal would need to sweep.

Anyone that believes Neil is going to be a difference maker just isn't being realistic.

For Neil to play, a better player is going to have to sit and that makes little sense IMO.

Neil brings more to the table than Smith, anyone else I agree.
 

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Maybe if Ottawa was playing a tough team. Borocop can handle MTL.

This team is glued together after a big accomplishment.
 

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With the way Smith is playing, I'd be hard pressed to think that Neil could be worse.
I don't think Smith's wrist is close to 100%. He handles the puck like he has steel rods in his wrists. It's awkward and clumsy.

If something happens like Prust does something stupid and Smith hesitates to drop the gloves becuase of his wrist then that's all the reason I need to put Neil in over him.

And really, I don't think there will be any difference if Smith or Neil plays. Both are not exactly what you want in full-time NHL players.

now, if Michalek can come back, then it's a whole new story.

Smith with a broken wrist would handle the puck better than Neil healthy and Smith can keep up with the play because he can skate.

As far as Prust being a problem, Boro is there and I don't think Smith would shy away from an altercation either.

IMO Smith has played pretty well for the role Cameron has had him in on the 4th line LW and would be even better at center.

Again IMO, Legwand will struggle mightily to keep up with the Canadiens, he is so slow.
 

Spire2000

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Smith and Chiasson are the weakest links on this team. Smith hasn't upped his game like the rest of the team had (see: Condra, particularly) and Chiasson doesn't bring anything to the table aside from some above-average boards work. I don't see taking Legwand out of the line up. Look at those behind the scenes videos the Sens have put up; Legwand is a giant in the locker room, in terms of personality.

If Michalek is healthy, you scratch Smith and go with this:

Macarthur - Turris - Stone
Michalek- Zibanejad - Ryan
Condra - Pageau - Lazar
Hoffman - Legwand - Chiasson

If Neil is healthy, you scratch Smith and go with this:

Macarthur - Turris - Stone
Hoffman- Zibanejad - Ryan
Condra - Pageau - Lazar
Chiasson - Legwand - Neil

If both Neil and Michalek are healthy, you do this:

Macarthur - Turris - Stone
Michalek- Zibanejad - Ryan
Condra - Pageau - Lazar
Hoffman - Legwand - Neil
 

Holdurbreathe

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Neil brings more to the table than Smith, anyone else I agree.

Disagree.

Comparing Smith to Neil is simply a non-starter.

The fact is if Michalek is ready (per my initial post), the left side would have Mac, Milo, Condra and Hoffman. So the decision to play Neil means Chaisson would have to sit.

IMO that would be a mistake because Chaisson is the better player and more flexible in terms of position and is useful from lines 1-4. Neil is a RW player that has seen his best days.

In the case of Smith, he is a center and IMO brings more speed and physicality than Legwand, so I would chose Smith over Legwand.

However if Cameron decides Legwand is the guy it doesn't automatically get Neil into the line-up.

IMO Michalek, Puempel and Smith should play ahead of Neil.
 

PeterSidorkiewicz

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Fair enough but I think Neil brings a physical element especially in the playoffs that I've never seen Smith bring aside from a small stretch years ago. Hell Neil probably brings more offensive upside than Smith too.

And Smith over Legs is preposterous. Legs is the vet leader now out there. Everyone loves Legs.
 

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If both Neil and Michalek are healthy, you do this:

Macarthur - Turris - Stone
Michalek- Zibanejad - Ryan
Condra - Pageau - Lazar
Hoffman - Legwand - Neil

Fantastic strategy to win. Destroy any scoring potential of Hoffman and Legwand by putting Neil on the ice with them. He can't even handle a pass anymore. But he will sure bring some useless penalties at the worst possible times.
 

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