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Am I missing something, but if Bruce has been fired, how do we prevent him from talking with Calgary?

On the flip side, I'd surely want the Ducks to talk to Harley.

John

because he still has one year left on his contract so the ducks still own his rights
 
hartley sucks. no way i want him as HC

i hope you guys are bracing for one crappy hire. the FO brought this upon themselves with firing BB. they must have known there were no good candidates out there to replace him

Is there anything positive within this organisation for you? Why does Hartley suck?
 
Unless you closely follow the AHL, junior, even European ranks you don't really have a feel for who's available as a coach. Sure, maybe no Babcocks or Quiennevilles, but there is no shortage of good coaches out there. I don't have much of a feel for it myself, but some names jump out at me.

MacLean, Green, and Boucher intrigue me the most right now...Keefe is extremely unlikely to leave the Leafs organization anytime soon.

I can't stand Hartley. I can understand the appeal, but I'd just personally hate to see him behind the bench after two guys I really liked (BB, RC).

Luke Richardson would be interesting...not sure what his style would be...many shocked he isn't assuming the Ottawa job.

I've always liked Ralph Krueger. Not sure he has a strong enough personality for this room though.

John Stevens would be a really nice fit...can't imagine prying him out of LA though.

Kirk Muller gets a bad rap for his time in Carolina, but they were seriously flawed teams. He's been learning under Hitch and is a very well respected former captain.

Bringing another Sutter to California would be quite the move...not sure Brent wants to leave Alberta, but he'd bring the sandpaper behind the bench so many seem to want.

Mentioned before, Dineen has a lot of history with this organization and is a fine coach. Will get another shot shortly.

Crawford had a tough go in Dallas, but he knows how to handle personalities and has a winning pedigree.

Brad Shaw is also learning under Hitch and seems destined for a head coaching job eventually as well.

None of these names are going to get you fired up, but they dont need to...right guy for the job may not have a name. I know very little about all these guys, but there are options out there.
 
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It really does not matter, whomever the ducks hire will be a downgrade from the predecessor, so I cannot say I am very excited about the search, especially when you consider who is conducting it
 
If I'm the Ducks there's zero chance I allow the Flames to talk with BB.

I agree with this, or at least make them offer some type of incentive (if that's even allowed). That said, I agree with the poster below who said that's not Murray's style.


Hell no to Hartley. The Flames weren't good the year before this one, they just played in a horrible division and snuck in the playoffs.
 
Unless you closely follow the AHL, junior, even European ranks you don't really have a feel for who's available as a coach. Sure, maybe no Babcocks or Quiennevilles, but there is no shortage of good coaches out there. I don't have much of a feel for it myself, but some names jump out at me.

MacLean, Green, and Boucher intrigue me the most right now...Keefe is extremely unlikely to leave the Leafs organization anytime soon.

I can't stand Hartley. I can understand the appeal, but I'd just personally hate to see him behind the bench after two guys I really liked (BB, RC).

Luke Richardson would be interesting...not sure what his style would be...many shocked he isn't assuming the Ottawa job.

I've always liked Ralph Krueger. Not sure he has a strong enough personality for this room though.

John Stevens would be a really nice fit...can't imagine prying him out of LA though.

Kirk Muller gets a bad rap for his time in Carolina, but they were seriously flawed teams. He's been learning under Hitch and is a very well respected former captain.

Bringing another Sutter to California would be quite the move...not sure Brent wants to leave Alberta, but he'd bring the sandpaper behind the bench so many seem to want.

Mentioned before, Dineen has a lot of history with this organization and is a fine coach. Will get another shot shortly.

Crawford had a tough go in Dallas, but he knows how to handle personalities and has a winning pedigree.

Brad Shaw is also learning under Hitch and seems destined for a head coaching job eventually as well.

None of these names are going to get you fired up, but they dont need to...right guy for the job may not have a name. I know very little about all these guys, but there are options out there.

I don't care about the name. I just don't want another 4 years of seeing our top players putting in average effort. Playing hard when they feel like it. Taking off shifts.

Right now that is my only criteria in a coach. Bruce, of all people, is able to really connect with his players and if he couldn't motivate them, Lord help us.

John
 
Hell no to Hartley. The Flames weren't good the year before this one, they just played in a horrible division and snuck in the playoffs.

Yeah, but they have one of the worst rosters. The Flames aren't good at all... riding Hiller and Ramo into the playoffs... really?

John
 
Yeah, but they have one of the worst rosters. The Flames aren't good at all... riding Hiller and Ramo into the playoffs... really?

John

Agreed, but I still think the Walrus is a better candidate, and if Murph is going to hire outside the organization, he should look to Travis Green.
 
I don't care about the name. I just don't want another 4 years of seeing our top players putting in average effort. Playing hard when they feel like it. Taking off shifts.

Right now that is my only criteria in a coach. Bruce, of all people, is able to really connect with his players and if he couldn't motivate them, Lord help us.

John

I understand, makes sense. I'm not really on the same page as you as far as the top players not putting in the effort, at least on the ice. I didn't have a problem with G and P's effort in the playoffs. To be honest, I don't really want my uniquely skilled stars flying around the ice like Cogliano...I want them using their heads and instincts and making plays that only they can create. When those plays don't produce results, yeah it's going to look like they're not trying as hard as a Wagner, but I don't have such a huge issue with that. I might be wrong, but that's my feeling on it.

I don't feel a NHL coach's job is to motivate as much as it is to manage ice time, implement strategies and make strategy adjustments. The strategy adjustments in the playoffs is one area where I feel a new coach might be able improve over the past few seasons.
 
Travis Green would be fun to see behind the bench just out of nostalgia. No idea if he's a good coach. Have heard good things about Boucher.

Don't envy Murray's job one bit. :laugh:
 
I mean I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet... but there is only one real option that can get us over the hump


Gordon Bombay
 
Luke Richardson would be interesting...not sure what his style would be...many shocked he isn't assuming the Ottawa job.

I agree Richardson is a name to keep in mind. He's probably going to be a NHL head coach next season, has a good AHL track record and seems to be widely respected in the business.

I'd think John Stevens is being groomed to replace Sutter, otherwise he'd be another interesting candidate.
 
Anaheim GM Bob Murray fired Boudreau in an act of desperation. He’s under immense heat to produce a Stanley Cup winner. Murray isn’t taking a chance on a coach in Anaheim. He’s bringing in a proven winner - not a guy who can get a horse ready for the derby, but one who knows how to navigate the 16-game trip.

http://www.tsn.ca/the-race-is-on-for-boudreau-1.482906


If true, I'd say that rules out guys like Dineen/Green/Boucher who were on a very short list for me. So who does that leave?
 
Darryl Sutter? His contract ended with the Kings this season and they haven't extended him yet. Maybe Murray is waiting to see what happens over there first before making a decision.

He would immediately shoot to the top of the list for me, but I just don't see the Kings not doing everything they can to bring him back. Other guys that have won before that may or may not be available - Crawford/Hartley/Carlyle/Hitchcock/Julien. Julien is really the only one of those I would be remotely interested in. I just hate the philosophy that winning a Cup automatically means you're a good coach. There's quite a few guys without Cups that are IMO better coaches than guys that have won.
 
http://www.tsn.ca/the-race-is-on-for-boudreau-1.482906


If true, I'd say that rules out guys like Dineen/Green/Boucher who were on a very short list for me. So who does that leave?

Not sure I agree it was out of desperation. For all of BB's good qualities, he has not been able to get his teams to win the huge games. Of course that is not all on him, but the fact that his playoff record in close out games and game 7's is horrible has to play into the decision. I would not call a desire for a better track record in big games an act of desperation.

I dont think I would want the Walrus. He was here and couldnt help BB get over the hump. I think I am leaning towards Crawford and Harltley now that he is available.
 
I understand, makes sense. I'm not really on the same page as you as far as the top players not putting in the effort, at least on the ice. I didn't have a problem with G and P's effort in the playoffs. To be honest, I don't really want my uniquely skilled stars flying around the ice like Cogliano...I want them using their heads and instincts and making plays that only they can create. When those plays don't produce results, yeah it's going to look like they're not trying as hard as a Wagner, but I don't have such a huge issue with that. I might be wrong, but that's my feeling on it.

I don't feel a NHL coach's job is to motivate as much as it is to manage ice time, implement strategies and make strategy adjustments. The strategy adjustments in the playoffs is one area where I feel a new coach might be able improve over the past few seasons.

Totally agreed, both paragraphs.
 
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