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Terry Yake said:
i doubt there are many coaches who wouldn't have won a cup with that 06-07 roster
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Point exactly. That 06-07 roster was nasty anyone would have won a cup with that team as a HC.

If Carlyle comes back Murray needs to be fired.
 
Dirk316 said:
He had a winning record with that joke of a roster with limited skill and his last season Brendan Shanahan removed all toughness go look at the roster.
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Still missed 3/4 playoffs. And lost in the 1st round the one year they did make it in.

I'll let "winning" record slide because everyone seems to be confused what overtime losses are, but he actually has a losing record.

So what toughness is Murray going to have here for him?


edit: so if Carlyle's regular season 0.574 point% with "no toughness" is a good thing to you, then what about Boudreau's 0.648 without a single 100 PIM player?
 
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Dirk316 said:
He had a winning record with that joke of a roster with limited skill and his last season Brendan Shanahan removed all toughness go look at the roster.
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im not advocating for RC, but this is true....he actually got that team to the PO's and they should have beat the bruins if not for complete karma kicking in.
 
the only time the leafs made the playoffs with him was the 48 game season, his tenure was a disaster and if the ducks hire him it just shows this org is stuck in the past
 
KEEROLE Vatanen said:
the only time the leafs made the playoffs with him was the 48 game season, his tenure was a disaster and if the ducks hire him it just shows this org is stuck in the past
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Wasn't their possession stat also really bad in that season? They were over performing. RC's system doesn't work with the modern NHLs reliance on possession. He's just not a good modern NHL coach.
 
With the second round of interviews having wrapped up and the talk of a hire coming this week, I wonder if they made a decision but wanted to wait until after the final was over to announce it.
 
RamsNducks said:
Point exactly. That 06-07 roster was nasty anyone would have won a cup with that team as a HC.

If Carlyle comes back Murray needs to be fired.
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That team was great but it is not like they had been so very much better then anyone. They still had to beat many good teams including a well coached good Red Wings team that gave us problems. Saying anyone would of won as the HC of those Ducks is hyperbole.
 
heusy_79 said:
That team could possibly be the strongest put together in the 30 team era, certainly right in the conversation. It would have taken some bad coaching to get in the way of that roster, which was really without a weakness top to bottom. If they had an area of potential downfall, it would have been discipline, and a lot of that would have went back on the coach.

I don't mean to completely discount Carlyle's contribution, but it wasn't like coaching was very high on the list of the Cup team's strengths, they were better than every team they ran into.
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3rd defense pair not that good and 4th line wingers had not been that good either.
 
Carlyle is the Stoner of coaches. I have a bad feeling Murray's lack of progressive thinking is going to end in something stupid happening.
 
Dirk316 said:
Carlyle will be the coach thankfully and he has the most upside (actually being able to win a cup)
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give me a break.

It's one thing to think he's the best candidate, but "has the most upside?". That's wrong and lame.


RC won the cup with the best roster in the cap era. I'll always be grateful to him for that, but you're severely overrating him. Never mind that he and Murray are a terrible match.

Murray needs a coach who can change philosophies from season to season because that's just what he does. That is in not, in any way, Carlyle.
 
Ducks in a row said:
3rd defense pair not that good and 4th line wingers had not been that good either.
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Which is the least of your worries when the overall team is that strong. The main point was that it was one of the best rosters put together in years, and you can only give Carlyle so much credit for that team winning the Cup.

I can't believe anyone would actually try to put a positive spin on Carlyle's time in Toronto. They had a rough finish to the season after he was hired and then had the flash in the pan lockout season where they made the playoffs and collapsed in spectacular fashion. The next year they were comfortably in a playoff spot before completely falling apart during the final quarter and ended up drafting top 5. Should I even get into the season where they were historically futile defensively?
 
heusy_79 said:
Which is the least of your worries when the overall team is that strong. The main point was that it was one of the best rosters put together in years, and you can only give Carlyle so much credit for that team winning the Cup.

I can't believe anyone would actually try to put a positive spin on Carlyle's time in Toronto. They had a rough finish to the season after he was hired and then had the flash in the pan lockout season where they made the playoffs and collapsed in spectacular fashion. The next year they were comfortably in a playoff spot before completely falling apart during the final quarter and ended up drafting top 5. Should I even get into the season where they were historically futile defensively?
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Positives

They made the playoffs and played a game 7 against a good Bruins team. Yes that was a half season and they choked but still that team shouldn't of been where they had been.

Had a winning record overall.

His final season with Maple Leafs he was fired while they had been in a playoff spot once he was gone they stunk had hard time scoring and winning. Maybe he knew what was needed for them to score and win more so he wasn't so concerned with being better defensively.

Regardless his coaching career shouldn't be ruined because of Toronto he should be given another chance to coach in the NHL
 
Ducks in a row said:
Positives

They made the playoffs and played a game 7 against a good Bruins team. Yes that was a half season and they choked but still that team shouldn't of been where they had been.

Had a winning record overall.

His final season with Maple Leafs he was fired while they had been in a playoff spot once he was gone they stunk had hard time scoring and winning. Maybe he knew what was needed for them to score and win more so he wasn't so concerned with being better defensively.

Regardless his coaching career shouldn't be ruined because of Toronto he should be given another chance to coach in the NHL
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I don't want to see him back here, but I'll agree with the final statement. Those teams in Toronto weren't very good. He's not some great coach who carried us to victory, nor is he a terrible coach that dragged the Leafs down. He's somewhere in between and could probably be a solid fit for someone in the league, just not us hopefully.
 
dracom said:
Wasn't their possession stat also really bad in that season? They were over performing. RC's system doesn't work with the modern NHLs reliance on possession. He's just not a good modern NHL coach.
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Yeah but the Carlyle Ducks were TOUGH maaaan. That's all we need is some damn grit and physicality and we'll be right back to the glory days maaaaaaaaan.
 
darkwingduck said:
Well Mike Yeo is off the table, I think? Idk, He's signed on to be Blues HC next year. So Yay?
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It says something to me that RC cant get a job anywhere in the NHL. Hes been out of work for a while and no one has hired him. The NHL sure recycles it coaches all over the league and he still cant get hired.

I really hope Barstool Bob sees that and doesnt make a tragic mistake of hiring him.

Green please.
 
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