Child Prodigy

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Very impressive stats and leads the league in scoring too!

Will be interesting to see whether he sticks in the UK or tries to go abroad.

Have to imagine at some point a junior team or sports agent suggests to him that he comes to North America or go over to Finland/Sweden.

 

[SH15]

Just read through this whole thread. Thank you to its contributors!!

MacKinnon, Kuznetsov, Hawryluk...is Kieran Brown next?!?!

 

[Szechwan]

Who were those brothers I recall people talking about a few years back.. They had pretty odd names.. Ocean or something?

edit: found them at the start of the thread Orca and Ocean Wiesblatt. Are these kids still on anyone's radar?

 

[Crosbyfan]

Who were those brothers I recall people talking about a few years back.. They had pretty odd names.. Ocean or something?

edit: found them at the start of the thread Orca and Ocean Wiesblatt. Are these kids still on anyone's radar?

No, but they're still on some mammals sonar.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Mike Josephson
99 goals, 80 assists, 200 PIM in 40 GP.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=87407

 

[Raimo Sillanpää]

This isn't a History of Hockey thread... in fact it's the exact opposite.

I haven't read through the entire thread but I was wondering people's thoughts on who the next prodigy on defense would be? Bobby Orr being one... who qualifies as a young defender to pay attention to, that isn't simply a sleeper prospect who would eventually develop into a top blueliner?

This isn't a History of Hockey thread... in fact it's the exact opposite.

I haven't read through the entire thread but I was wondering people's thoughts on who the next prodigy on defense would be? Bobby Orr being one... who qualifies as a young defender to pay attention to, that isn't simply a sleeper prospect who would eventually develop into a top blueliner?

Mentioned two years ago,

From Finland Urho Vaakainen has been talked about for almost 2 years now and he's only 14. Already playing on the u18 league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=180538

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=180538

Urho is on track, 16 year old d-man mentioned here at age 14, noticed in Finland at about age 12 - playing on basically the best under-20 team in Finland (so toughest competition for playing time, but hes doing fine)
Wuld be a disappointment if hes anything other than a high first round selection.

 

[puckrocks]

I have seen both boys recently. They are living in Calgary now.
Ocean is a super skilled player. He has signed with Moose Jaw Warriors.
He may play with them before this season is over. the Moose Jaw is in ninth place and is trying to enter the playoff picture. they probably want to use their experience players to qualify for a playoff position.
Orca scored a hat trick in his last game with the Bisons. But, his team lost to my cousin's team (Calgary Royals). He will enter WHL draft this May. That is the latest news I have heard so far.

 

[1967th Heaven]

Mike Josephson
99 goals, 80 assists, 200 PIM in 40 GP.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=87407

Wut...

 

[Deif]

Seth Jarvis from Winnipeg, currently playing on the Peewee AA Rangers.

Kid is a good. Highlight videos posted by (presumably) his Dad.

#4

Round 2 playoff highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgELWaYaltM

Round 1 playoff highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koecIJsL_84

and a whole other more highlight videos here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDvr0_d93QzMcOLhatl1g3Q/videos

 

[GFF]

Update on Kieran Brown:

U14s: 18games 114goals 67 assists 181 points
U16s: 17 games 45goals 45 assists 90 points

Led the league in points in both leagues.

Didn't fare brilliantly in the Conference games, 4games 4 goals and 1 assist.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

By what margin did he lead?

 

[GFF]

In U16 he led 3 team mates who had between 62-75 points (all of whom are age 15+), next best not on his team had 51 points in 15 games. Top scorer in the other regional division 1 was 55 points in 13 games.

In U14 he led his 2 team mates who had 70 and 79 points (one of whom still plays U12! Next best from another team was 59 points in 15 games. In the other regional division top scorer had 92 points in 16 games (who had 17 points in 9 U16 games).

U14 his PPG: 10, next best: 5.75
U16 his PPG: 5.29, next best: 4.41

 

[FrozenJagrt]

Am I reading that correctly? U14 he nearly doubled the total of the next best player? That's.... Not too bad. Obviously consideration must be given to the level of talent of his peers, but still.

 

[GFF]

Am I reading that correctly? U14 he nearly doubled the total of the next best player? That's.... Not too bad. Obviously consideration must be given to the level of talent of his peers, but still.

That is correct.

Only about 5 times in the last 10 years or so has anyone broken 100pts and he has the top two, 136 and 181.

Age-Age he is superior to any junior player in the last 20 years. He needs to bulk up a LOT, but if he can grow a bit then he could be a very good player....

NHL? unlikely but possible with the right development and route.
NHL draft? possibly with the right exposure.
GB team? Very good chance if he continues to develop.

As I mentioned previously, his stats against Brendan Perlini were better at the same age (when Brendan was over here) but Brendan took a very different route from age 11/12.

 

[tony d]

Will be interesting to see how many of these guys pan out. Now that Mcdavid's about to be drafted let's see who the next great prospect is.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Will be interesting to see how many of these guys pan out. Now that Mcdavid's about to be drafted let's see who the next great prospect is.

Auston Matthews

 

[DearDiary]

Kieran Brown age 10 (2011-12):
U12: 16gp 124g 6a 130p

 

[GFF]

Yup! The next year he had 15GP 141G 23A 164P

 

[Nicko999]

Makes sense... he is just too good for the competition so is able to walk through the defense every time he touches the puck. I would guess his 6 assists are rebounds or something like that.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Didn't fare brilliantly in the Conference games, 4games 4 goals and 1 assist.

Sucks to say but he didn't even look like the best '01 in the tournament.

He was just floating around the neutral zone looking for breakaways/odd man rushes. His defensive effort was skating by players and swinging his stick at the puck. Obviously he's still a child so he could still mature a lot but it really didn't look good compared to the crazy numbers he puts up.

For what it's worth, I thought the better '01 was Lewis Houston.
Here are his numbers in Scotland:
Scotland U14 (1st) 15GP 81G 18A 99PTS
Scotland U16 (7th) 8GP 13G 13A 26PTS

 

[Shesty31]

Makes sense... he is just too good for the competition so is able to walk through the defense every time he touches the puck. I would guess his 6 assists are rebounds or something like that.

Surprised nobody has called him a selfish puck hog yet.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Surprised nobody has called him a selfish puck hog yet.

Those stats are from 4 years ago. He had 45 U16 assists this season & 67 U14 assists. Still scored a combined 159 goals but still, tons of assists.

 

[here come the]

I remember a tv special on Russian hockey a couple years back, and they feature a kid named Zhenya Kuznetsov who was tearing up his league at age 12.

That turned out to be a pretty good call.

 

[Yog S'loth]

Also, to be fair, a lot of kids' leagues don't really accurately score assists. I see that in my kids' league. You could have 25 total goals scored in a game and they only hand out an assist or two because nobody is really able to scorekeep accurately on the fly.

 

[JC Numminen]

Update on Kieran Brown:

U14s: 18games 114goals 67 assists 181 points
U16s: 17 games 45goals 45 assists 90 points

Led the league in points in both leagues.

Didn't fare brilliantly in the Conference games, 4games 4 goals and 1 assist.

Wow, he is 1 only 14?!

Top CHL import pick in a few years?