Player Discussion Charlie Coyle

[LouJersey]

Well time will tell but let's just say we aren't seeing the same thing. While no two players are identical there are a bunch like JFK, Bjork, Donato when he was here who brought the same things. Nobody was at all similar to what Coyle brings. I wish Donato luck, not bitter at all but I feel Coyle is a better fit and brings an element that was sorely missing on this team.

I get the deal I would have done it as well.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

In a 7 game series where your 3rd line is often going to match up against Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen (51 even strength goals and counting), who would you rather have on the line?

Coyle, or Donato?

I know who I pick. I think only a crazy person picks the other.

And this is question we'll ask for years to come. The Leafs and Tampa forward will always be 3+ lines deep.

 

[False Start]

In a 7 game series where your 3rd line is often going to match up against Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen (51 even strength goals and counting), who would you rather have on the line?

Coyle, or Donato?

I know who I pick. I think only a crazy person picks the other.

And this is question we'll ask for years to come. The Leafs and Tampa forward will always be 3+ lines deep.

I mean, it's as obvious for Boston as it is for Minny.

I would take Coyle and Minny would take Donato.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I agree that Bjork had more upside than Donato, but Bjork has some serious miles on him already with the injuries.

I'd say Bjork has the better tools overall (what an awesome skater), but Donato at this point in time is far more likely to be an NHL regular for years to come.

As for saying Donato was by far the best Bruins forward prospect...idk if I'd put him ahead of Studnicka, but it's kind of a loaded statement anyway because all the best young Bruins forwards were already playing in the NHL (Pasta, Debrusk, Heinen). If Donato was the best of anything he was the "best of the rest"

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

I mean, it's as obvious for Boston as it is for Minny.

I would take Coyle and Minny would take Donato.

Sure, but it's also reflective of the realities of where each team is. A young basement team has time. We, do not. This is the window, period.

 

[veganbruin]

In a 7 game series where your 3rd line is often going to match up against Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen (51 even strength goals and counting), who would you rather have on the line?

Coyle, or Donato?

I know who I pick. I think only a crazy person picks the other.

And this is question we'll ask for years to come. The Leafs and Tampa forward will always be 3+ lines deep.

I hate the trade. I agree with this sentiment 100%. But you can’t look at in a vaccuum of Donato or Coyle. Of course Donato wasn’t going to realistically be on our playoff roster(although with the top6 injuries he would be welcome). The problem is they could have paid a much lower price for a more productive or same production option as Coyle.

 

[arider1990]

Sure, but it's also reflective of the realities of where each team is. A young basement team has time. We, do not. This is the window, period.

I'm not sure if you are calling Minnesota a basement team because they are currently in the second wild card

 

[veganbruin]

Sure, but it's also reflective of the realities of where each team is. A young basement team has time. We, do not. This is the window, period.

They are also not a young basement team. They are the oldest team in the NHL and are on a tear.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I hate the trade. I agree with this sentiment 100%. But you can’t look at in a vaccuum of Donato or Coyle. Of course Donato wasn’t going to realistically be on our playoff roster(although with the top6 injuries he would be welcome). The problem is they could have paid a much lower price for a more productive or same production option as Coyle.

Agree, if we're talking about a player who is a puck possession specialist you can get that for much less in price. I don't think the Bruins had puck possession in mind when they aquired Coyle as they are looking for depth scoring so they don't have to rely so much on Krejci and Bergeron in a 7 game series. If the Bruins are in a playoff game down 2-0 and need to score and the 1st line is being shut down, they need a 3rd line which will produce offense. They have time to get the 3rd line more in sync so not really worried right now.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I hate the trade. I agree with this sentiment 100%. But you can’t look at in a vaccuum of Donato or Coyle. Of course Donato wasn’t going to realistically be on our playoff roster(although with the top6 injuries he would be welcome). The problem is they could have paid a much lower price for a more productive or same production option as Coyle.

Like who? The only other center that stands out to me that was traded on TDL day was Derick Brassard and he has 1 more point than Coyle does. Coyle is also under contract for another season at a fair price which gives him more value as a piece moving forward.

 

[TCB]

Agree, if we're talking about a player who is a puck possession specialist you can get that for much less in price. I don't think the Bruins had puck possession in mind when they aquired Coyle as they are looking for depth scoring so they don't have to rely so much on Krejci and Bergeron in a 7 game series. If the Bruins are in a playoff game down 2-0 and need to score and the 1st line is being shut down, they need a 3rd line which will produce offense. They have time to get the 3rd line more in sync so not really worried right now.

Thats what Im waiting for.

No way am I going to judge Coyle point production on playing with the likes of Backes and Nordstrom, but once MoJo,Pasta and DeBrusk returns and more than likely Heinen drops down to the third line, I'd expect some improvement in the offensive department.

He's playing well, I think if you place him on he right-wing with Bergy and Marchand his point totals would be similar to Heinen, but he's more suitable for this team as a third line center and because of who's he's been playing with to-date, I think it would be grossly unfair to judge him on his point production alone.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Are people actually surprised by his play? If so, you shouldn't be. He's simply not a very productive player.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Are people actually surprised by his play? If so, you shouldn't be. He's simply not a very productive player.

Lol.... You formed this take from all the Wild games you watch, right?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Are people actually surprised by his play? If so, you shouldn't be. He's simply not a very productive player.

Wellat the same time since he has been here he has had linemates like Cehlarik, Backes, and Nordstrom. Quite simply no one is going to be productive with those guys as linemates

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Are people actually surprised by his play? If so, you shouldn't be. He's simply not a very productive player.

he was on an unprecedented career worst pointless slump... but im sure if we watched him in the past that would be the 'norm'

I mean if we actually didnt want to seem a bit ridiculous we could look at his true point production over his career

it seems he has 243 points in 487 games. if you are as bad at math as you might be in your hottakes I will point out thats an average of .5ppg or an expectation of a point every 2 games played.

this is reality... tough for some people to accept. its quite an unexpected slump to see him go 14 games without a point. yes... it happened. but to call this the norm is jokingly laughable

he had 22 points in his first 41 games this season [half a year} so to say the game suddenly passed him by is stupid. hes in a career worst scoring slump, but this is a guy with the talent/history to let us expect a 40-45 point season as a norm. and remember, hes always been considered an underperformer. the experts believe his skills should produce more. 40-45 is the reality that has already been accomplished, but we can easily hope he realizes his potential and gives us more

 

[ODAAT]

wonder if Crosby between Nordy and Backes could produce different results?

 

[Johnnyduke]

Lol.... You formed this take from all the Wild games you watch, right?

Just going by stats and what people who have seen him a lot think.

 

[gvkmedia]

Coyle is a big body. Controls the puck well. When he is given some decent line mates - he will produce.
I have a good feeling that when he gets on the board - it will be a big goal. Every goal he scores - and there will be more than 1 - will be timely and huge.

Just my feeling

 

[Ratty]

Wellat the same time since he has been here he has had linemates like Cehlarik, Backes, and Nordstrom. Quite simply no one is going to be productive with those guys as linemates

Who were his last line mates in Minnesota when he started this drought?

 

[KrejciMVP]

wonder if Crosby between Nordy and Backes could produce different results?

Highly likely

 

[BruinsNetwork]

After watching each game Coyle and Donato have played with their new teams, I’d personally make that trade again and again.

Coyle actually gives the Bruins a solid, unspectacular, steady middle-six center to work with for the first time all year. The points aren’t there, but the possession and solidified presence is. Interested to see what he looks like when he gets one of Heinen or Johansson when everyone is healthy.

For the record, I don’t love Coyle and never have, but I do think he’s a solid, talented middle-six player.

 

[remer]

Coyle had decent linemates in Minnesota. Played the wing more, but was still struggling..
Feb. 20th article on rotowire: "Coyle Enduring Brutal Month" has just two points while averaging 17:41 of ice time in his past 10 games.
Hope he starts figuring it out soon. Not too many options in the Bruin line-up to help his production.
Rooting for him to be an important piece for this team moving forward.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Just going by stats and what people who have seen him a lot think.

His stats have him as a 0.50 PPG player. How is that "not very productive"?

 

[duffy]

I get the deal I would have done it as well.

Me also. Coyle protects the puck so well in both zones and almost always makes the right play.
I absolutely love this player and believe with more skilled line mates could put up some points.

 

[LouJersey]

Me also. Coyle protects the puck so well in both zones and almost always makes the right play.
I absolutely love this player and believe with more skilled line mates could put up some points.

Seems to be floating on the wing so far, doesn’t look comfortable. Tough spot to be on for him, hasn’t really had any continuity yet