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Ziggy Stardust said:
http://mayorsmanor.com/2017/04/the-...d-why-of-being-of-fired-plus-what-lies-ahead/

Mayor got the first interview with Sutter since his release. Seems to be handling things well.
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this was interesting





Several sources have told us, Lombardi wanted to terminate Sutter in the summer of 2015, following the Kings missing the playoffs. However, AEG owner Phil Anschutz wasn’t on board with the plan and the two decided to let Sutter ride out the final year of his contract (the 2015-16 season) – feeling he had earned that respect and it was worth seeing what would happen the following campaign. When the Kings were bounced from the playoffs in round one about 12 months later, it made for some fairly strained times in Los Angeles. Lombardi and his management team – along with ownership – wrestled with the decision of what to do next with Sutter. Eventually, he was offered a contract extension.
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Circling back to the topic at hand, many saw last year’s contract extension as Sutter winning again. This wasn’t about a final score flashing on a scoreboard or a trophy being raised. Instead, he was going to finally put his ultimate stamp on the team. Dustin Brown would no longer be captain, as the two had long been feuding privately – largely over disagreements regarding Brown’s performance on the ice. Publicly, both tried to play nice last summer, talking extensively about their relationship and trying to find some common ground.
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http://mayorsmanor.com/2017/04/the-...-and-why-of-being-fired-plus-what-lies-ahead/
 
I'm sorry but you don't fire a coach one year after the Kings amazing run.

More proof that Dean completely lost his mind after June 2014.
 
I believe the team locking Sutter out of the locker room in Tampa Bay occurred in 2015. That may have been the tipping point as to when he may have lost the room.

And I completely disagree with the team pulling off that stunt against their coach. You could also tell how bothered Dean was with how last season went when the team blew their division lead and stopped trying after they clinched a playoff spot.

Either way, I think both Dean and Darryl and the rest of the team went through such a whirlwind of drama with the off ice issues and the turnover the team has had since then. Just too much turmoil occurred after 2014.

It likely is for the best for both Dean and Darryl to step away, especially for Dean's mental health. All this crap he's had to deal with was probably eating him up inside.
 
Dean saw Darryl was losing/lost the room in 2015. That would have been the time to let him go, one year removed from a championship or not. The fact that he ended up with his hands tied by ownership meant that the problem in the lockerroom was not dealt with and festered until it cost him his job.

Doesn't make what the players did right, but he didn't want to fire Murray either. That ended up being a good decision, even if the players deserved the heat more. And if Brown still commanded the room despite being stripped of the C, that's just another pile added on to the failure to make the hard decision in 2015 by ownership.

Of course, this doesn't seem to bode well for the future of the org either if Blake and Luc are yes men to Anschutz. They won't be able to make the tough calls and fight for them.
 
I don't think anyone wants a Mark Cuban type owner here, someone who is constantly trying to play GM. And I think Anschutz has been very good since DL took over about not doing that. But as team owner I think he has the right to step in and override stuff when it's needed, and in this case it was needed. I don't even think it was a money issue about paying Sutter, I think Anschutz probably found the idea of firing a coach who lead his team to the Stanley Cup less than a year before was a ridiculous idea.

And also if Lombardi wanted to fire Sutter after 2015, why did he go against the wishes of the other hockey ops guys and keep him after 2016? That makes zero sense because we all know Dean was not happy with the 2016 season at all.

Maybe one day someone in the media will stop talking about the stupid Lakers for a couple of hours and do a serious in-depth interview with Dean. He has always been really honest the very few times he talks to the media, I assume he would be honest and open about all the issues.
 
Herby said:
I don't think anyone wants a Mark Cuban type owner here, someone who is constantly trying to play GM. And I think Anschutz has been very good since DL took over about not doing that. But as team owner I think he has the right to step in and override stuff when it's needed, and in this case it was needed. I don't even think it was a money issue about paying Sutter, I think Anschutz probably found the idea of firing a coach who lead his team to the Stanley Cup less than a year before was a ridiculous idea.

And also if Lombardi wanted to fire Sutter after 2015, why did he go against the wishes of the other hockey ops guys and keep him after 2016? That makes zero sense because we all know Dean was not happy with the 2016 season at all.

Maybe one day someone in the media will stop talking about the stupid Lakers for a couple of hours and do a serious in-depth interview with Dean. He has always been really honest the very few times he talks to the media, I assume he would be honest and open about all the issues.
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I'm kinda hoping a shoot interview like they do with wwe wrestlers after they get let go :yo::sarcasm::naughty: With dean talking its garented 6 hour two part dvd lol
 
Butch 19 said:
You don't think Quick's game needs any improvement?

He's reached the pinnacle - DONE! :sarcasm:
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Clearly. Because mockingly saying any goalie coach can help goaltenders is the same as saying a goalie is flawless. You got me.

A goalie coach who has been in the organization since 2006 did not help a goalie at all who has been in the organization since 2005. I'm in agreement. What has that meathead done and why haven't we developed the flawless goalie yet?
 
Herby said:
I'm sorry but you don't fire a coach one year after the Kings amazing run.

More proof that Dean completely lost his mind after June 2014.
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Hell yes you do if he's lost the team. They locked him out of the locker room in 2015, he should've been fired then.
 
Reaper45 said:
Hell yes you do if he's lost the team. They locked him out of the locker room in 2015, he should've been fired then.
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Yep. If the coach loses the room, you let him go. Past accomplishments don't mean much at that point.

Sutter was a coach with a shelf life long before he came to LA. Dean knew that, and letting him go in either 2015 or 2016 was the right move.
 
Since automation is going to replace most of our jobs anyways, we might as well be the first team in the league to implement A.I. for a coach.
 
That was a really interesting, awesome interview, and man, those quotes were Sutter was so self-assured are completely badass. I love that guy.
 
So you go from wanting to fire him 1 year removed from a Cup win to extending him in the timeframe of 12 months? Pure ********. Either someone is playing the Mayor or Dean was off his rocker. Doesn't add up.
 
Reclamation Project said:
So you go from wanting to fire him 1 year removed from a Cup win to extending him in the timeframe of 12 months? Pure ********. Either someone is playing the Mayor or Dean was off his rocker. Doesn't add up.
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That's what I don't understand. They give him one more chance, things don't go that well, so they give him... another one more chance?

Sounds a lot like the Richards situation, actually.
 
Herby said:
I'm sorry but you don't fire a coach one year after the Kings amazing run.

More proof that Dean completely lost his mind after June 2014.
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Actually, more proof that AEG is always meddling and overriding hockey ops.


Expect more of the same these next couple seasons.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
http://mayorsmanor.com/2017/04/the-...d-why-of-being-of-fired-plus-what-lies-ahead/

Mayor got the first interview with Sutter since his release. Seems to be handling things well.
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Sutter is incredibly smart. He knew his time here was done. His stubbornness is the only reason why he didn't quit himself. He still believed he could win with his system and his style.

I think mostly though he's just sitting back and is incredibly proud of what he did here. I still remember his interview after game 82 in 2015 when they weren't going to the playoffs. Huge smile on his face saying how he couldn't be any prouder of his players for what they had done during that 3 year stretch. Reporters kept asking him if he was sad or mad but he just kept saying how happy and proud he was. I know he had funny interviews here and there but that one was my favorite.
 
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WHOneedsSOX said:
Sutter is incredibly smart. He knew his time here was done. His stubbornness is the only reason why he didn't quit himself. He still believed he could win with his system and his style.

I think mostly though he's just sitting back and is incredibly proud of what he did here. I still remember his interview after game 82 in 2015 when they weren't going to the playoffs. Huge smile on his face saying how he couldn't be any prouder of his players for what they had done during that 3 year stretch. Reporters kept asking him if he was sad or mad but he just kept saying how happy and proud he was. I know he had funny interviews here and there but that one was my favorite.
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He's one of the people actually accomplishing something. We're fans, we get tied up in the larger picture of a franchise. Coaches, players, they come and go. There have been few teams, certainly in recent history, that have put together a 3 year run like the Kings had. Even those great Colorado teams didn't win 2 Cups in 3 years. They were better for a longer period of time, having made it to at least the 3rd round in 6 of 7 consecutive seasons, but they didn't get that 2nd Cup as quickly.
 
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