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[KingTrouty]

Blake just needs to take emotion out of the equation. Yzerman is successful because by all accounts he is very businesslike with little to no emotion involved in his decision.

Either you finish in the top 8 in the west or you don't, finishing 9th or 10th does nothing for a franchise. If they tank so be it, maybe there is a guy like McDavid or Matthew's who put their team back in the playoffs within a year or 2 of being drafted.

Yzerman is successful? By which measure?

 

[AlphaBravo]

Jon Rosen mentioned that Blake will be looking to make a big splash in the UFA market and will not be rebuilding the team. I think its possible to revamp the team significantly in the off season and get us back to being a playoff team.

A lot of vague references are made in these posts that we do not have the cap space and we are doomed, but cap space can be opened up and there are in fact moves to be made that can make the Kings better this off season. I have already mentioned this in prior posts, but simply getting rid of Lewis and Clifford opens up $3.6 million in cap space. Trading Martinez for a high pick and/or prospect opens up another $4 million. We also have the option of buying out Gaborik. Lastly, there is the long shot of trading Gaborik if we sacrifice our first round pick (this is a big maybe).

I would personally try to target Oshie in the offseason, as I see him being a great fit with Kopitar. There may also be a deal to be made with Dallas. Dallas for one is desperate for a better defense and may be willing to trade a top 6 forward to make a deal for Muzzin or Martinez. Also, I am not sure if this deal can be made, but if Dallas lands the top 3 pick, I wonder if they would be willing to part with that pick for Muzzin? Dallas is not in a rebuilding stage and needs a no. 2 anchor on the blue line. The Kings, on the other hand, will have two first rounders in the 2017 draft, and can use them to get skilled forward prospects (maybe one of which will be ready to play this upcoming season), and use the other pick to rid themselves of Gaborik.

 

[KingTrouty]

Hope Blake brings the Bill Belichick model to the Kings. "Here's my offer. Take it or we'll trade you." One untouchable on the team and that's Drew Doughty.

Arte Moreno does it, too. It's not always a sure-fire way for success, or even partial success. Moreno is enept. A lot of Owners/GMs do, in fact, use this tactic. Not just Belichick, Sox.

If Blake accomplishes 1/5 of what Belichick (the GM) has, I'll eat a turd out of my toilet.

 

[KingsCourt]

Arte Moreno does it, too. It's not always a sure-fire way for success, or even partial success. Moreno is enept. A lot of Owners/GMs do, in fact, use this tactic. Not just Belichick, Sox.

If Blake accomplishes 1/5 of what Belichick (the GM) has, I'll eat a turd out of my toilet.

ewwwwww

 

[KingTrouty]

ewwwwww

****ing A-right, ewwwwww, KC

 

[King'sPawn]

Arte Moreno does it, too. It's not always a sure-fire way for success, or even partial success. Moreno is enept. A lot of Owners/GMs do, in fact, use this tactic. Not just Belichick, Sox.

If Blake accomplishes 1/5 of what Belichick (the GM) has, I'll eat a turd out of my toilet.

Will it be your own turd or will you accept contributions?

 

[KingTrouty]

Will it be your own turd or will you accept contributions?

Brother, mail me your turd, Blake's turd, it doesn't matter.

1/5 of Belichick (the GM) ain't happening with **** all Blake.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

Yzerman is successful? By which measure?

How can you say Yzerman hasn't been successful in Tampa? Hes built a very solid team who have made three conference finals since he took over in 2010 and would've made the playoffs this year had the team not been decimated by injuries

He might not have a Cup yet, but his teams have lost to the eventual Cup winners the last two years

 

[KingTrouty]

I hope someone asks about Futa and Yanetti in the PC. If they are let go, I'm raging. A very, very violent internal rage. I might even flip over my beer (after placing it near the sink and aiming).

 

[Reclamation Project]

 

[KingTrouty]

How can you say Yzerman hasn't been successful in Tampa? Hes built a very solid team who have made three conference finals since he took over in 2010 and would've made the playoffs this year had the team not been decimated by injuries

He might not have a Cup yet, but his teams have lost to the eventual Cup winners the last two years

This, mon frere. We win titles. We judge our GMs here in LA LA land by titles. And spare the injury ****, we had our fair share the last three years. And we lost to the Cup finalist last year. Circles, brother, circles.

But being close is good enough for you. Guess DL shouldn't have hedged his bets and just built a stable contender. Like Yzerman.

**** that ****. Especially when y'all talk all your **** about DL then in the same breath say dumb **** like "the Sharks success" or a "GM like Yzerman"

Gtho. Dean did way the **** more, and he was axed and berated by half of this board.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

It will be interesting to see how Blake handles negotiations with Drew Doughty.

He's gotta deal with the RFAs first!

But I agree.

I admire that he's willing to step into a challenge, I'll say that much. Might be the hardest job in the NHL over the next couple of years--a roster locked with high-dollar vets coupled with relatively high expectations for a new general manager. Most guys get a clean slate and no expectations.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Not gonna lie, the Matjaz Kopitar picture made me laugh

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm fine with Stevens, Gallant or Stothers taking over. I'm more concerned that someone like Emerson is going to get a shot. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. He's a player development guy so most of the players are probably familiar with him but you have a lot of guys on this time who have won at the highest level so they need a bonafided NHL head coach.

My only concern with Stevens is that he is a defensive minded coach that while could be a good thing (allowing defensemen to activate on rush, push pace, etc) could be more of the same. Kings need someone that is going to push creativity through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone. It's going to be quite the departure from what they are used to. Whomever comes in has to emphasize on speed and skill which probably will take a year to adjust to. That's why I'm thinking they might go outside the organization. Gallant is in the highest regard (many argue Florida should have not got rid of him) and I'm hoping they give him a chance.

I think Dee (right?) and others have pointed out that John Stevens is more forward-thinking than he'll get credit for simply because he's coaching the defensemen on a Sutter system. He didn't play lockdown neutral zone trap hockey in Philly. I wouldn't be appalled if Stevens got the job, my only issue with it would simply be that we're not really distancing ourselves from the past at all (Blake, Luc, Stevens...etc.).

Wish we could snag Gallant though.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

This, mon frere. We win titles. We judge our GMs here in LA LA land by titles.

But being close is good enough for you. Guess DL shouldn't have hedged his bets and just built a stable contender. Like Yzerman.

**** that ****. Especially when y'all talk all your **** about DLthen in the same breath say dumb **** like "the Sharks success" or a "GM like Yzerman"

Gtho. Dean did way the **** more, and he was axed and berated by half of this board.

We get angry at DL because he's made horrible, horrible moves that have left this team in a hell hole since 2014. He built an empire over 8 years and completely destroyed it over the next three. Yzerman might not have that Cup yet but he also hasn't completely destroyed the team over such a small window like DL did. We've said it a million times on here, Dean was the best GM in the league before the summer of 2014, since then he was one of, if not the worst GM in the league on par with Benning. Excuse me for not living in the past like many do on here. Fact is the Lighting will likely be Contenders again next year while Lombardi is out of a job and the Kings have one of the bleakest futures in the league right now.

Dean "did more" half a decade ago and proceeded to undo all the great work he did on his own. We compare the Kings to teams like Tampa, SJ, and the Ducks because those teams have adapted to the changes in the league and haven't crippled themselves with awful moves the last three years. Just because they haven't won a Cup yet doesn't change the fact that they have been much smarter with their assets lately and will all be contending teams for awhile while the Kings are backed into a corner

 

[KINGS17]

Arte Moreno does it, too. It's not always a sure-fire way for success, or even partial success. Moreno is enept. A lot of Owners/GMs do, in fact, use this tactic. Not just Belichick, Sox.

If Blake accomplishes 1/5 of what Belichick (the GM) has, I'll eat a turd out of my toilet.

Unfortunately, I don't think you have to worry.

 

[AlphaBravo]

I think Dee (right?) and others have pointed out that John Stevens is more forward-thinking than he'll get credit for simply because he's coaching the defensemen on a Sutter system. He didn't play lockdown neutral zone trap hockey in Philly. I wouldn't be appalled if Stevens got the job, my only issue with it would simply be that we're not really distancing ourselves from the past at all (Blake, Luc, Stevens...etc.).

Wish we could snag Gallant though.

The benefit of firing Sutter mid-season is that John Stevens would get a try-out in a season where not much was expected from this team. I doubt any coach would make us a playoff team, but if the Kings style of play and response to John Stevens appeared like a positive step forward, we could use John Stevens as our coach next season. Now we will never know, unless they hire him and it doesn't pan out.

I am sure Blake is meeting with the leaders on the Kings to find out what they think about Stevens and to assess the situation in the locker room.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

We get angry at DL because he's made horrible, horrible moves that have left this team in a hell hole since 2014. He built an empire over 8 years and completely destroyed it over the next three. Yzerman might not have that Cup yet but he also hasn't completely destroyed the team over such a small window like DL did. We've said it a million times on here, Dean was the best GM in the league before the summer of 2014, since then he was one of, if not the worst GM in the league on par with Benning. Excuse me for not living in the past like many do on here. Fact is the Lighting will likely be Contenders again next year while Lombardi is out of a job and the Kings have one of the bleakest futures in the league right now.

The boldfaced is a key point, though. And the Lightning are coming up on similar big decisions. I want to see how Yzerman navigates those before we start anointing him the best former player executive ever considering he hasn't had to pay the price of victory yet.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This, mon frere. We win titles. We judge our GMs here in LA LA land by titles. And spare the injury ****, we had our fair share the last three years. And we lost to the Cup finalist last year. Circles, brother, circles.

But being close is good enough for you. Guess DL shouldn't have hedged his bets and just built a stable contender. Like Yzerman.

**** that ****. Especially when y'all talk all your **** about DL then in the same breath say dumb **** like "the Sharks success" or a "GM like Yzerman"

Gtho. Dean did way the **** more, and he was axed and berated by half of this board.

We're all on the same side, friends.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

The boldfaced is a key point, though. And the Lightning are coming up on similar big decisions. I want to see how Yzerman navigates those before we start anointing him the best former player executive ever considering he hasn't had to pay the price of victory yet.

He's going to have to trade one or both of Palat and Johnson or lose one of them in the expansion draft, but he seems to know what he's doing when it comes to trades so we'll see.

 

[KingTrouty]

We get angry at DL because he's made horrible, horrible moves that have left this team in a hell hole since 2014. He built an empire over 8 years and completely destroyed it over the next three. Yzerman might not have that Cup yet but he also hasn't completely destroyed the team over such a small window like DL did. We've said it a million times on here, Dean was the best GM in the league before the summer of 2014, since then he was one of, if not the worst GM in the league on par with Benning. Excuse me for not living in the past like many do on here. Fact is the Lighting will likely be Contenders again next year while Lombardi is out of a job and the Kings have one of the bleakest futures in the league right now.

Dean "did more" half a decade ago and proceeded to undo all the great work he did on his own. We compare the Kings to teams like Tampa, SJ, and the Ducks because those teams have adapted to the changes in the league and haven't crippled themselves with awful moves the last three years. Just because they haven't won a Cup yet doesn't change the fact that they have been much smarter with their assets lately

They haven't won. Jack ****. <throws hands in the air> I give up. I've read what you posted over, and over, and over again by numerous posters. I get what y'all think. It doesn't bear repeating.

You're right, the Kings do have one of the bleakest futures in the NHL, now. I'll give you that. But for a different reason than your's stated.

 

[KINGS17]

He's gotta deal with the RFAs first!

But I agree.

I admire that he's willing to step into a challenge, I'll say that much. Might be the hardest job in the NHL over the next couple of years--a roster locked with high-dollar vets coupled with relatively high expectations for a new general manager. Most guys get a clean slate and no expectations.

...and this is why Blake will get a pass the first few years. Kind of like when Obama took over from Bush and blamed him for the bad economy for the first 5 or 6 years of his presidency.

Blake is going to be untouchable, because look at the mess Lombardi made with these long term contracts. Not sure that would be an incorrect assessment though. Dean did make a mess.

 

[KingTrouty]

We're all on the same side, friends.

We are. I will settle down. Sorry, Rocky. Sorry to any others I've been a dick to. I loathe this hiring and am taking it out on our fandom.

 

[Kingsfan1]

I still can't get happy about Dean being let go. He was the smartest mind in hockey the Kings franchise has ever had. I think they should have let him evolve with the team and got rid of Sutter only. Dean is great at drafting , developing and building a winner. His loyalty was his downfall but I think he could have righted it . Not sure about Blake it scares me. Not only does Blake scare me being GM and trying to make trades and FA splash but knowing Doughty is up for a contract renewal soon scares me .

 

[KingTrouty]

Unfortunately, I don't think you have to worry.

"Unfortunately"

I agree, 17.