Confirmed Trade: [CGY/ARI] Michael Stone at 50% retained FOR 2017 3rd round pick and a 2018 cndl 5th

[Lunatik]

I kinda feel bad for the Coyotes on this one. From my perspective they did everything right with Stone and end up losing, what should be a second pairing staple for 3+ more seasons, and only end up with a 3rd rounder for their troubles.

Injuries and bad luck. It isn't like they signed him to a big, unwarranted extension or anything dumb.

Oh well.

I actually think the Coyotes did Stone a solid. His wife is from Calgary and they recently had twins. Being close to family will be great for his wife and babies.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Wow that's a good deal for Calgary

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Stone is having a brutal year but worth giving up a 3rd for a UFA rental and see how it goes

not a "steal" as some people have said, but a worthy risk

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Was he the Hitmen Stone or is that someone else?

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Bummer, thought the left could get him. Good deal for Calgary, Zona opens up a contract spot to potentially take on a bad contract for another premium. Smart by both gms

 

[tmlfan98]

Wow the Leafs should be able to upgrade easily then.

 

[Boondock]

This is a great move for Calgary. The 3rd is a crap shoot in any draft so to improve D depth going into a playoff push is very valuable even if it's just to the 3rd pairing. Well done Calgary, surprised Arizona retained anything at that price.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

i like it for Calgary...

 

[Senor Catface]

Not a steal at all.

Ok trade.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

My question is how exactly does this help Calgary? Defense is not their issue this year. They have a very pedestrian offense and their goaltending is still suspect at best.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

My question is how exactly does this help Calgary? Defense is not their issue this year. They have a very pedestrian offense and their goaltending is still suspect at best.

Defence is most definitely part of the issue. We have big names, sure, but no one that really defends well.

 

[Lunatik]

My question is how exactly does this help Calgary? Defense is not their issue this year. They have a very pedestrian offense and their goaltending is still suspect at best.

The defense is very much an issue, defense is the reason why our goaltending hasn't looked very good. Anytime you can make it harder for your opponents to score goals, if increases your chances at winning.

 

[Mckay]

Wow the Leafs should be able to upgrade easily then.

So many will whine if they spend even a 7th round pick. "Draft picks like candy, blah blah blah" all over again.

 

[McVirginOil]

Not a very good player who is boosted by OEL. Although, what Flames traded for him was good and is exactly what he's worth, no discount (except for retention). Doesn't really help the Flames at all really, I expect Treleving to do more. Also, I think this messes up the exposing thing for Calgary now if they wanna protect Stone.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Defence is most definitely part of the issue. We have big names, sure, but no one that really defends well.

But it's far from the biggest. I think it goes both ways.

The defense is very much an issue, defense is the reason why our goaltending hasn't looked very good. Anytime you can make it harder for your opponents to score goals, if increases your chances at winning.

Of course but if your goaltender isn't stopping the most basic of chances then it really makes things that much harder. The Flames still don't have solid goaltending (which they probably can't upgrade too much right now) and their bottom 6 is very weak.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Not a very good player who is boosted by OEL. Although, what Flames traded for him was good and is exactly what he's worth, no discount (except for retention). Doesn't really help the Flames at all really, I expect Treleving to do more. Also, I think this messes up the exposing thing for Calgary now if they wanna protect Stone.

Why would they protect a pending UFA?

 

[Rangediddy]

My question is how exactly does this help Calgary? Defense is not their issue this year. They have a very pedestrian offense and their goaltending is still suspect at best.

There is LOTS of room to upgrade the D

Gio
Brodie
Hamilton (not necessarily in that order)
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Wideman
Kulak
Jokipakka
Engelland
Bartkowski (not necessarily in that order)

 

[Lunatik]

Not a very good player who is boosted by OEL. Although, what Flames traded for him was good and is exactly what he's worth, no discount (except for retention). Doesn't really help the Flames at all really, I expect Treleving to do more. Also, I think this messes up the exposing thing for Calgary now if they wanna protect Stone.

He definitely helps the Flames. It does a couple things.

- Wideman moves out of the top 4, possibly out of the line-up. That is a huge plus.
- Adds physicality, in adding Bartkowski and now Stone our defense has gone from very soft to fairly physical.

 

[blankall]

Why the **** didn't Pittsburgh get in on this.

There is LOTS of room to upgrade the D

Gio
Brodie
Hamilton (not necessarily in that order)
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Wideman
Kulak
Jokipakka
Engelland
Bartkowski (not necessarily in that order)

The Flames are also missing a hard hitting shut down guy. Brodie, Hamilton, and Giordano are all more offensively orientated. Giordano and Brodie can skate and back check, but rarely throw large hits and don't do as well against large bodies.

The Flames need more of a Regehr type again. Hopefully, Stone can be that.

 

[Lunatik]

Of course but if your goaltender isn't stopping the most basic of chances then it really makes things that much harder. The Flames still don't have solid goaltending (which they probably can't upgrade too much right now) and their bottom 6 is very weak.

The problem with our goaltending is the number of quality chances the defense gives up and has been for 3 years.

 

[Morgs]

Not a very good player who is boosted by OEL. Although, what Flames traded for him was good and is exactly what he's worth, no discount (except for retention). Doesn't really help the Flames at all really, I expect Treleving to do more. Also, I think this messes up the exposing thing for Calgary now if they wanna protect Stone.

He only played 84 minutes with OEL.

Yeah he boosted him, but let's be serious Stone has just had a godawful season.

 

[InfinityIggy]

But it's far from the biggest. I think it goes both ways.



Of course but if your goaltender isn't stopping the most basic of chances then it really makes things that much harder. The Flames still don't have solid goaltending (which they probably can't upgrade too much right now) and their bottom 6 is very weak.

It absolutely is/was the Flames biggest problem. Our bottom 3 was Wideman, Engelland and Jokipakka. Probably among the worst in the league for that area.

 

[DougieSmash]

Chayka miss big time in the summer to sell Stone for good return.

 

[Fightman]

And the winner of the first trade of the Tradecenter 2017 edition is : by split decision : Calgary Flames

 

[Lunatik]

Chayka miss big time in the summer to sell Stone for good return.

As has been pointed out multiple times, Stone blew out his knee at the end of last season. The Coyotes were not going to get a good return then either.