CBJ Training Camp Thread

[CBJWerenski8]

His .913 save % last season was better than Elvis's. By a lot.

Also, I thought Jet Greaves was going to take over as the #1 netminder this season?

Certainly wasn’t me that said that

 

[DarkandStormy]

Certainly wasn’t me that said that

My tongue in cheek sarcasm was apparently not obvious.

 

[Indy18]

I wonder why Johnson is listed at RW. I was confused looking for his name. Thats an interesting line as listed but maybe just a placeholder for Marchenko? Or is an actual Idea Vincent wants to try

Probably just a backfill for Marchenko being a bit ouchy I wouldn't read too much in on it outside seems like he is dead set that Laine and Fantilli play together as Laine would be there instead. Starting to look like our Top 6 opening night is the expected:

JG-Boone-Marchenko
KJ-Fantilli-Laine

What I find more interesting is Erob at RW which is an obvious nod to Olivier being out probably up until season opener. That means Pascal is probably interested in bringing back the safety blanket 4th line from last year of Erob-Kuraly-Olivier. Though I am curious with that swap they are going to give it to Foudy or if there is legit actual consideration to bring Malatesta to the show which I AM 100% HERE FOR IF THAT IS THE CASE! Voronkov should be there but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the Marchenko experience from last year. Don't worry though he will be your 4LW at some point this fall.

The last thing I want to note is I can't be the only one cracking up at the Foudy-Roslovic-Bemstrom line. Might as well call that the outcast/trading fodder line.

 

[Nanabijou]

Eric Dop filling in for Tarasov?

 

[DarkandStormy]

Probably just a backfill for Marchenko being a bit ouchy I wouldn't read too much in on it outside seems like he is dead set that Laine and Fantilli play together as Laine would be there instead. Starting to look like our Top 6 opening night is the expected:

JG-Boone-Marchenko
KJ-Fantilli-Laine

What I find more interesting is Erob at RW which is an obvious nod to Olivier being out probably up until season opener. That means Pascal is probably interested in bringing back the safety blanket 4th line from last year of Erob-Kuraly-Olivier. Though I am curious with that swap they are going to give it to Foudy or if there is legit actual consideration to bring Malatesta to the show which I AM 100% HERE FOR IF THAT IS THE CASE! Voronkov should be there but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the Marchenko experience from last year. Don't worry though he will be your 4LW at some point this fall.

The last thing I want to note is I can't be the only one cracking up at the Foudy-Roslovic-Bemstrom line. Might as well call that the outcast/trading fodder line.

I would agree with this.

3rd line is likely then Texier - Sillinger - Chinakhov, unless one of the outcasts surprises.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

My tongue in cheek sarcasm was apparently not obvious.

It was, I just thought you were directing at me.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I would agree with this.

3rd line is likely then Texier - Sillinger - Chinakhov, unless one of the outcasts surprises.

i think that'd be a good top nine, but:

• johnson and gaudreau were really good together last year
• marchenko and gaudreau had really bad underlying numbers compared to other combos
• subjectively, i think texier's game works better with fantilli/laine than marchenko's (better in the corners + defensively + passing)

imo it's likelier that the top six they have today is by design, and the third line is going to be chinny and marchenko on the wings with one of sillinger/roslovic in the middle.

fwiw i'd absolutely keep marchenko on the bumper spot on pp1. he was awesome there last year – he had 7g on 30 shots (23%) on the power play. wasn't all that good at 5v5 (16p in 59gp). i think he's a potential star in the making, but for now, being a complimentary third line scorer + PP1 ace is a really nice role for him.

i'd personally go with this:

5v5	PP1	PP2
13 - 38 - 91 42 - 11 - 29 59 - XX - 86 YY - 7 - 17 XX = roslovic or sillinger YY = robinson or voronkov	Point: Boqvist Flanks: Laine (L), Gaudreau (R) Bumper: Marchenko Netfront: Fantilli	Point: Werenski Flanks: KJ + Tex/Chinakhov Bumper: Roslovic/Sillinger Netfront: Jenner

the handedness on PP1 works really well to run through gaudreau. kj could play either flank on PP2 depending on whether they want chinakhov (who i'd put on the right flank for one-timers) or texier (who i'd put on the left flank) on that unit.

 

[stevo61]

Probably just a backfill for Marchenko being a bit ouchy I wouldn't read too much in on it outside seems like he is dead set that Laine and Fantilli play together as Laine would be there instead. Starting to look like our Top 6 opening night is the expected:

JG-Boone-Marchenko
KJ-Fantilli-Laine

What I find more interesting is Erob at RW which is an obvious nod to Olivier being out probably up until season opener. That means Pascal is probably interested in bringing back the safety blanket 4th line from last year of Erob-Kuraly-Olivier. Though I am curious with that swap they are going to give it to Foudy or if there is legit actual consideration to bring Malatesta to the show which I AM 100% HERE FOR IF THAT IS THE CASE! Voronkov should be there but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the Marchenko experience from last year. Don't worry though he will be your 4LW at some point this fall.

The last thing I want to note is I can't be the only one cracking up at the Foudy-Roslovic-Bemstrom line. Might as well call that the outcast/trading fodder line.

The more I think about it the more these lines maybe make more sense. Johnson can play a puck control give and go game with Johnny while Boone does the dirty work and Tex on a line with Fantilli-Laine lets them focus a little little on the dirty jobs so they can gain some offensive confidence. For me Marchenko has to show a lot more to be an actual top 6 RW on a good team.

Might just be as simple as trying Johnson out in different spots to see how he responds to them all

 

[Indy18]

i think that'd be a good top nine, but:

• johnson and gaudreau were really good together last year
• marchenko and gaudreau had really bad underlying numbers compared to other combos
• subjectively, i think texier's game works better with fantilli/laine than marchenko's (better in the corners + defensively + passing)

imo it's likelier that the top six they have today is by design, and the third line is going to be chinny and marchenko on the wings with one of sillinger/roslovic in the middle.

fwiw i'd absolutely keep marchenko on the bumper spot on pp1. he was awesome there last year – he had 7g on 30 shots (23%) on the power play. wasn't all that good at 5v5 (16p in 59gp). i think he's a potential star in the making, but for now, being a complimentary third line scorer + PP1 ace is a really nice role for him.

i'd personally go with this:

5v5	PP1	PP2
13 - 38 - 91 42 - 11 - 29 59 - XX - 86 YY - 7 - 17 XX = roslovic or sillinger YY = robinson or voronkov	QB: Boqvist Flanks: Laine (L), Gaudreau (R) Bumper: Marchenko Netfront: Fantilli	QB: Werenski Flanks: KJ + Tex/Chinakhov Bumper: Roslovic/Sillinger Netfront: Jenner

the handedness on PP1 works really well to run through gaudreau. kj could play either flank on PP2 depending on whether they want chinakhov (who i'd put on the right flank for one-timers) or texier (who i'd put on the left flank) on that unit.

I keep looking at that combo and I just don't see how Roslovic fits on this team at this point. Unless Sillinger isn't up to speed, which I doubt, its starting to feel like Rolsovic is just getting forced into the lineup

 

[GoJackets1]

i think that'd be a good top nine, but:

• johnson and gaudreau were really good together last year
• marchenko and gaudreau had really bad underlying numbers compared to other combos
• subjectively, i think texier's game works better with fantilli/laine than marchenko's (better in the corners + defensively + passing)

imo it's likelier that the top six they have today is by design, and the third line is going to be chinny and marchenko on the wings with one of sillinger/roslovic in the middle.

fwiw i'd absolutely keep marchenko on the bumper spot on pp1. he was awesome there last year – he had 7g on 30 shots (23%) on the power play. wasn't all that good at 5v5 (16p in 59gp). i think he's a potential star in the making, but for now, being a complimentary third line scorer + PP1 ace is a really nice role for him.

i'd personally go with this:

5v5	PP1	PP2
13 - 38 - 91 42 - 11 - 29 59 - XX - 86 YY - 7 - 17 XX = roslovic or sillinger YY = robinson or voronkov	QB: Boqvist Flanks: Laine (L), Gaudreau (R) Bumper: Marchenko Netfront: Fantilli	QB: Werenski Flanks: KJ + Tex/Chinakhov Bumper: Roslovic/Sillinger Netfront: Jenner

the handedness on PP1 works really well to run through gaudreau. kj could play either flank on PP2 depending on whether they want chinakhov (who i'd put on the right flank for one-timers) or texier (who i'd put on the left flank) on that unit.

I like these lines and powerplay units. My one comment is that Roslovic is pretty good in the bumper spot (or at least he was for awhile) so he should have that spot for sure. Also want to ask, did Johnson have any time at RW last year? That feels like the one "wrong" thing here even if he's with the right guys on a line.

 

[VT]

Isn't that their position last season, which doesn't mean they'll play there?

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I keep looking at that combo and I just don't see how Roslovic fits on this team at this point. Unless Sillinger isn't up to speed, which I doubt, its starting to feel like Rolsovic is just getting forced into the lineup as a RW.

if sillinger is ready to make a jump (and i hope he is) that means roslovic is absolutely cooked.

if he's not, and gets sent down (less of a roster crunch/incentive to do so now that bean/olivier are set to miss opening night) roslovic might make more sense in the lines i drew up as a 3C in the sense that he's actually a solid puck carrier in transition and they could just shelter the hell out of that line.

again, though: sillinger making a jump would be massive for this team, and the front office is clearly over jack given his line placement today. i bet he starts as the extra forward, barring injury.

 

[Indy18]

if sillinger is ready to make a jump (and i hope he is) that means roslovic is absolutely cooked.

if he's not, and gets sent down (less of a roster crunch/incentive to do so now that bean/olivier are set to miss opening night) roslovic might make more sense in the lines i drew up as a 3C in the sense that he's actually a solid puck carrier in transition and they could just shelter the hell out of that line.

again, though: sillinger making a jump would be massive for this team, and the front office is clearly over jack given his line placement today. i bet he starts as the extra forward, barring injury.

Yeah I am still cracking up over the Outcast line...

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I like these lines and powerplay units. My one comment is that Roslovic is pretty good in the bumper spot (or at least he was for awhile) so he should have that spot for sure. Also want to ask, did Johnson have any time at RW last year? That feels like the one "wrong" thing here even if he's with the right guys on a line.

KJ did play there a bit last year – looked fine. i think gaudreau played right wing in calgary when he was on tkachuk's line (could be wrong on that) – seems like one of them should be capable of playing their off-side.

another wrinkle could be KJ essentially playing center, but boone taking face-offs then moving to LW, with gaudreau at RW.

if jack's in the lineup, he's the PP2 bumper guy + one of the entry carry options on that unit imo. marchenko was more effective as the bumper last year imo.

 

[VT]

i think that'd be a good top nine, but:

• johnson and gaudreau were really good together last year
• marchenko and gaudreau had really bad underlying numbers compared to other combos
• subjectively, i think texier's game works better with fantilli/laine than marchenko's (better in the corners + defensively + passing)

imo it's likelier that the top six they have today is by design, and the third line is going to be chinny and marchenko on the wings with one of sillinger/roslovic in the middle.

fwiw i'd absolutely keep marchenko on the bumper spot on pp1. he was awesome there last year – he had 7g on 30 shots (23%) on the power play. wasn't all that good at 5v5 (16p in 59gp). i think he's a potential star in the making, but for now, being a complimentary third line scorer + PP1 ace is a really nice role for him.

i'd personally go with this:

5v5	PP1	PP2
13 - 38 - 91 42 - 11 - 29 59 - XX - 86 YY - 7 - 17 XX = roslovic or sillinger YY = robinson or voronkov	QB: Boqvist Flanks: Laine (L), Gaudreau (R) Bumper: Marchenko Netfront: Fantilli	QB: Werenski Flanks: KJ + Tex/Chinakhov Bumper: Roslovic/Sillinger Netfront: Jenner

the handedness on PP1 works really well to run through gaudreau. kj could play either flank on PP2 depending on whether they want chinakhov (who i'd put on the right flank for one-timers) or texier (who i'd put on the left flank) on that unit.

According to stats, Gaudreau and Johnson weren't good together at 5-on-5, their stats improved to 4-on-4, with a minimum of those situations.
On the contrary. Marchenko and Roslovic would have very good stats with Laine.

I want to see that coach move Werenski to PP2.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Gaudreau Jenner Johnson
Texier Fantilli Laine

Let's go!!!

 

[VT]

Hmmm, if I am not mistaken, Laine played center here:

 

[CBJx614]

Hmmm, if I am not mistaken, Laine played center here:

It's the first day of drills. Let's see what he does in preseason games.

 

[koteka]

Hmmm, if I am not mistaken, Laine played center here:

We are going to be so prepared for 5 on 1 breakaways.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Hmmm, if I am not mistaken, Laine played center here:

i think they were practicing an entry where they're not in their normal spots, and how to move around to get back into those spots (by the end of the drill, laine is at RW, fantilli is at center, and tex is down low on the left)

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Isn't that their position last season, which doesn't mean they'll play there?

Maybe. In any case, it's the head coach who decides where they play, and I think we all recognize he hasn't had time to make those determinations in any sort of permanent way that we should read anything into.

 

[Monk]

Maybe. In any case, it's the head coach who decides where they play, and I think we all recognize he hasn't had time to make those determinations in any sort of permanent way that we should read anything into.

There's a half-decent 'reading between the lines' joke here but I can't quite wrangle it.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

There's a half-decent 'reading between the lines' joke here but I can't quite wrangle it.

Heard that.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[BluejacketNut]

It will be a victory if Texier makes it to the regular season without an injury