CBJ Training Camp Thread

[THE Green Man]

Yes.

Thanks, PP1 & line 1 expected? I see daily faceoff had his at 3C and Laine at 1C which seemed odd?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Thanks, PP1 & line 1 expected? I see daily faceoff had his at 3C and Laine at 1C which seemed odd?

I would say PP2 and line 2 or 3 to start. Moving up and down the lineup as needed. And yeah it appears Laine will open as 1C

 

[THE Green Man]

I would say PP2 and line 2 or 3 to start. Moving up and down the lineup as needed. And yeah it appears Laine will open as 1C

Thanks for the info

 

[CBJWerenski8]

So as of now here's how I think the lineup will look:

Gaudreau-Laine-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Danforth
Texier-Jenner-Roslovic
Robinson-Kuraly-Bemstrom
Voronkov, Olivier

Werenski-Peeke
Provorov-Severson
Bean-Gudbranson
Boqvist

IR: Chinakhov, Tarasov

Elvis
Martin

Foudy, Christiansen, TFW, and Gaunce waived. Sillinger, Jiricek, Blankenburg, and Greaves sent to Cleveland. Dumais and Mateychuk back to juniors.

 

[majormajor]

So as of now here's how I think the lineup will look:

Gaudreau-Laine-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Danforth
Texier-Jenner-Roslovic
Robinson-Kuraly-Bemstrom
Voronkov, Olivier

Werenski-Peeke
Provorov-Severson
Bean-Gudbranson
Boqvist

IR: Chinakhov, Tarasov

Elvis
Martin

Foudy, Christiansen, TFW, and Gaunce waived. Sillinger, Jiricek, Blankenburg, and Greaves sent to Cleveland. Dumais and Mateychuk back to juniors.

Yeah probably.

Not exactly how I'd do it but it's how I expect it to go.

 

[VT]

So as of now here's how I think the lineup will look:

Gaudreau-Laine-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Danforth
Texier-Jenner-Roslovic
Robinson-Kuraly-Bemstrom
Voronkov, Olivier

Werenski-Peeke
Provorov-Severson
Bean-Gudbranson
Boqvist

IR: Chinakhov, Tarasov

Elvis
Martin

Foudy, Christiansen, TFW, and Gaunce waived. Sillinger, Jiricek, Blankenburg, and Greaves sent to Cleveland. Dumais and Mateychuk back to juniors.

I think Roslovic can be traded, Bemström instead od him, he is better in this line. And I wouldn't be suprise if Voronkov and Oliver would play with Kuraly. Because, if I remember right, Jarmo wants Voronkov in the team. It would be agressive, strenght line.

Gaudreau (30) -- Laine (25) -- Marchenko (23)
Texier (24) -- Jenner (30) -- Bemström (24)
Johnson (21) -- Fantilli (19) -- Danforth (30)
Voronkov (23) -- Kuraly (30) -- Olivier (26)
Robinson (28)

Defense - it is difficult. Really. Peeke is the third pair d-man, not more. He should not play neither with Werenski nor with Provorov. But Gudbranson will play whether we want or not. Boqvist is not in shape yet but every year his start of his season isn't ideal. Blankenburg and Jiříček are better but they can be assigned to Cleveland without waiver.

 

[BB88]

So as of now here's how I think the lineup will look:

Gaudreau-Laine-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Danforth
Texier-Jenner-Roslovic
Robinson-Kuraly-Bemstrom
Voronkov, Olivier

Werenski-Peeke
Provorov-Severson
Bean-Gudbranson
Boqvist

IR: Chinakhov, Tarasov

Elvis
Martin

Foudy, Christiansen, TFW, and Gaunce waived. Sillinger, Jiricek, Blankenburg, and Greaves sent to Cleveland. Dumais and Mateychuk back to juniors.

I just still think the 2nd line is too green and would drop Gaudreau there.

Don’t need all that pressure on Fantilli yet.
The defense looks 180 to last year on paper

 

[VT]

I just still think the 2nd line is too green and would drop Gaudreau there.

Don’t need all that pressure on Fantilli yet.
The defense looks 180 to last year on paper

Today (for me) it was the third line. The second was Jenner's line. I think, if lines will be same, it would be minimum in the start of the season too. I mean the Fantilli-Johnson couple.

 

[BB88]

Today (for me) it was the third line. The second was Jenner's line. I think, if lines will be same, it would be minimum in the start of the season too. I mean the Fantilli-Johnson couple.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s a 2nd or 3rd line.

The issue remains the same. Fantilli needs a quality veteran on his line

 

[NotCommitted]

No matter what the lines end up being exactly, those line ups look soooo good compared to what we got used to seeing last season.

 

[VT]

It doesn’t matter whether it’s a 2nd or 3rd line.

The issue remains the same. Fantilli needs a quality veteran on his line

I agree but whom? Vincent decided Gaudreau will play with Laine and Marchenko, Jenner will play center.

 

[BB88]

I agree but whom? Vincent decided Gaudreau will play with Laine and Marchenko, Jenner will play center.

I don’t know why they are going with Gaudreau-Laine for multiple reasons right now.

They are loading up the top line leaving midd6 light and making sure Fantilli isn’t getting the best protection.

I had either Gaudreau or Jenner with Fantilli but seems like not going to happen

Dropping Gaudreau would balance out the scoring and not have Fantilli as the guy on his line at 18

 

[MoeBartoli]

So as of now here's how I think the lineup will look:

Gaudreau-Laine-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Danforth
Texier-Jenner-Roslovic
Robinson-Kuraly-Bemstrom
Voronkov, Olivier

Werenski-Peeke
Provorov-Severson
Bean-Gudbranson
Boqvist

IR: Chinakhov, Tarasov

Elvis
Martin

Foudy, Christiansen, TFW, and Gaunce waived. Sillinger, Jiricek, Blankenburg, and Greaves sent to Cleveland. Dumais and Mateychuk back to juniors.

Agree, but Peeke on 1st pair just sticks out like a sore thumb. I’d have Roslovic on a short leash As I have Alexa play “We won’t get fooled again”.

 

[Cowumbus]

I think Roslovic can be traded, Bemström instead od him, he is better in this line. And I wouldn't be suprise if Voronkov and Oliver would play with Kuraly. Because, if I remember right, Jarmo wants Voronkov in the team. It would be agressive, strenght line.

Gaudreau (30) -- Laine (25) -- Marchenko (23)
Texier (24) -- Jenner (30) -- Bemström (24)
Johnson (21) -- Fantilli (19) -- Danforth (30)
Voronkov (23) -- Kuraly (30) -- Olivier (26)
Robinson (28)

Defense - it is difficult. Really. Peeke is the third pair d-man, not more. He should not play neither with Werenski nor with Provorov. But Gudbranson will play whether we want or not. Boqvist is not in shape yet but every year his start of his season isn't ideal. Blankenburg and Jiříček are better but they can be assigned to Cleveland without waiver.

I love the second line

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I think Roslovic can be traded,

roslovic still being on the roster is probably, sadly, proof that he was not able to be traded. he's reportedly been on the trade block for 2+ years at this point.

it's headed to max domi "double retention trade for basically nothing before he signs a 1-year deal in the offseason to reestablish value" territory.

 

[VT]

roslovic still being on the roster is probably, sadly, proof that he was not able to be traded. he's reportedly been on the trade block for 2+ years at this point.

it's headed to max domi "double retention trade for basically nothing before he signs a 1-year deal in the offseason to reestablish value" territory.

Jack is a Columbus boy who loves the city, wants to play here, etc, etc. Its going to be difficult trade him, since, at least I think, Jarmo can't ignore this. Anyway, the contract might not be a problem. We can keep part of it, it's only one year.

 

[stevo61]

Jack is a Columbus boy who loves the city, wants to play here, etc, etc. Its going to be difficult trade him, since, at least I think, Jarmo can't ignore this. Anyway, the contract might not be a problem. We can keep part of it, it's only one year.

Its going to be tough to trade him because he makes 4mil and his play often doesnt justify it. If the team cared about how much a player loved the city Cam would still be there. Maybe they retain and trade him toward the deadline but its almost impossible to trade salary early in the season during these flat cap years. Best case scenario is he plays well enough for a team to take a chance on him retained for a run and get a little value back

Columbus has the 7th most capspace in the league at 3.96mil. Before LTIR and all the fun paper moves there are still 10 teams over the cap.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Jack is a Columbus boy who loves the city, wants to play here, etc, etc. Its going to be difficult trade him, since, at least I think, Jarmo can't ignore this.

GMs have to be pretty cold-blooded when it comes to this stuff – and jarmo has been in the past (atkinson trade).

Anyway, the contract might not be a problem. We can keep part of it, it's only one year.

even after 50% retention – a $2m cap hit – there are only a few teams that could take him.
- winnipeg
- philly
- san jose
- arizona
- detroit
- nashville
- buffalo
- anaheim
- chicago

i doubt any rebuilding team would want him, since he's a pending UFA and is expensive for what he actually brings to the ice. that leaves winnipeg, detroit, buffalo and nashville.

detroit and buffalo don't really have any space or need for him. winnipeg is unlikely to be interested in a reunion. that leaves nashville as the only real suitor, but only if they have actual interest in the player, and there's nothing to indicate that they do.

there's a limited (or non-existent) market for him, and thus his trade value is negligible. he's not worth whatever cap/roster slot he'd tie up if extended. the value he brings to the lineup currently is marginal at best.

maybe his market grows at the deadline, as teams have guys on LTIR, his cap hit becomes prorated and double-retention options open up, but i wouldn't hold my breath for any significant return.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Interesting that Jiricek, despite not playing tonight, is not among the cuts. Maybe he’ll play in the finale?

 

[VT]

Its going to be tough to trade him because he makes 4mil and his play often doesnt justify it. If the team cared about how much a player loved the city Cam would still be there. Maybe they retain and trade him toward the deadline but its almost impossible to trade salary early in the season during these flat cap years. Best case scenario is he plays well enough for a team to take a chance on him retained for a run and get a little value back

Columbus has the 7th most capspace in the league at 3.96mil. Before LTIR and all the fun paper moves there are still 10 teams over the cap.

Cam was different case because we urgently needed a playmaker. Also Jarmo get Voráček.
Maybe I am wrong but this is one of the reasons because Jack hasn't traded. I like him and would want to stay him but where he would play?

 

[CBJx614]

Interesting that Jiricek, despite not playing tonight, is not among the cuts. Maybe he’ll play in the finale?

I imagine a handful of guys will stay up into the reg season just to get a taste of what it's like and have a little motivation going into their respective seasons, I'm thinking guys like Mateychuk and Dumais.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I imagine a handful of guys will stay up into the reg season just to get a taste of what it's like and have a little motivation going into their respective seasons, I'm thinking guys like Mateychuk and Dumais.

Can only carry 23 at a time. So who would you send down instead?

 

[Byrral]

They most likely can't trade Roslovic so keep him until the end of the year and let him walk in the offseason. At this time today in no way does he deserve a raise on his current salary and he has negative value in a trade. If he starts off good keep playing him looking for a deadline deal and if not sit him and let him watch. He's not good enough right now to keep around any longer than this year when they have better players that will be looking for a spot next year. Wish him well elsewhere.

 

[Indy18]

GMs have to be pretty cold-blooded when it comes to this stuff – and jarmo has been in the past (atkinson trade).

even after 50% retention – a $2m cap hit – there are only a few teams that could take him.
- winnipeg
- philly
- san jose
- arizona
- detroit
- nashville
- buffalo
- anaheim
- chicago

i doubt any rebuilding team would want him, since he's a pending UFA and is expensive for what he actually brings to the ice. that leaves winnipeg, detroit, buffalo and nashville.

detroit and buffalo don't really have any space or need for him. winnipeg is unlikely to be interested in a reunion. that leaves nashville as the only real suitor, but only if they have actual interest in the player, and there's nothing to indicate that they do.

there's a limited (or non-existent) market for him, and thus his trade value is negligible. he's not worth whatever cap/roster slot he'd tie up if extended. the value he brings to the lineup currently is marginal at best.

maybe his market grows at the deadline, as teams have guys on LTIR, his cap hit becomes prorated and double-retention options open up, but i wouldn't hold my breath for any significant return.

What's going to happen is a team is going to lose a mid 6 player early into the season due to injury for the year and that would be the perfect time for Jarmo to 50% package him to a team. Until then he's probably going to be a 3RW for the group and he's really the black sheep of the team right now.

 

[majormajor]

Roslovic doesn't fit but he's an okay player. You'd think from the way folks talk about him that the club is getting killed when he's out on the ice and that's never really happened. He'll be a winger, maybe scratched in a rotation, and then probably get moved with retention after another club gets too many injuries.