CBJ Prospect Thread III

[Sore Loser]

This, a thousand times this. It is right now that greatest problem with nhl development . There is no place for 19 year olds who aren't ready to move into the nhl, but are already at the top of the chl.

Jenner's offensive explosion was a surprise this year, but guys like Johansen could have really used this to their advantage. I'm still somewhat shocked that the new CBA didn't at least have some exceptions or modifications regarding this.

I disagree, to an extent. While I don't think all 19 year old players are incapable of playing in the AHL, I think that a blanket rule allowing them to all play in the AHL would really hinder the sport in general. If anything, there should be an exceptional rule that allows each case to be reviewed on an individual basis - and there should be a limit on how many 19 year olds each team could carry.

Filling AHL rosters with 19 year old players would completely ruin the CHL, which is where all of these talented players come from. Instead of competing against bigger, stronger players; the 16 and 17 year olds coming into the league would have little reason to get better, and it would become a glorified minor midget league. Add to that the loss of star power with players moving on as soon as they become marketable (junior hockey teams have a small window of talent as it is), and the teams would have no reason to exist.

What this also does is take away jobs for "tweener" NHL players and guys who may never play in the NHL anyway. Personally, I would have never become a hockey fan without the Columbus Chill, who had a small handful of recognizable faces on the roster every single year. You knew these guys weren't going anywhere, and to some extent, that's why you cheered for them.

I'm not completely against it, but I'm all for limiting it and making sure that it doesn't pluck all of the talent away from where it belongs. If a guy is going to put up 2 points per game in junior, as Sven Baertschi did last year, then yeah, I see a reason for putting them in the AHL.

 

[alphafox]

I disagree, to an extent. While I don't think all 19 year old players are incapable of playing in the AHL, I think that a blanket rule allowing them to all play in the AHL would really hinder the sport in general. If anything, there should be an exceptional rule that allows each case to be reviewed on an individual basis - and there should be a limit on how many 19 year olds each team could carry.

Filling AHL rosters with 19 year old players would completely ruin the CHL, which is where all of these talented players come from. Instead of competing against bigger, stronger players; the 16 and 17 year olds coming into the league would have little reason to get better, and it would become a glorified minor midget league. Add to that the loss of star power with players moving on as soon as they become marketable (junior hockey teams have a small window of talent as it is), and the teams would have no reason to exist.

What this also does is take away jobs for "tweener" NHL players and guys who may never play in the NHL anyway. Personally, I would have never become a hockey fan without the Columbus Chill, who had a small handful of recognizable faces on the roster every single year. You knew these guys weren't going anywhere, and to some extent, that's why you cheered for them.

I'm not completely against it, but I'm all for limiting it and making sure that it doesn't pluck all of the talent away from where it belongs. If a guy is going to put up 2 points per game in junior, as Sven Baertschi did last year, then yeah, I see a reason for putting them in the AHL.

Well, that's better than I could say it. I agree that a blanket ok for 19 year olds is a bad idea. But a few exceptions for guys that dominate the CHL at 19 but aren't yet ready for the NHL (like late first rounders/early second rounders) would really help development for some kids, and I think teams should have the option to do so. So in short I agree.

 

[CBJFan19*]

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9840

top 6 basically stayed the same, but i think Barkov is #3 and pushes for #2 by Draft day

Zadarov moved from 12th according to CBS to 9th here

Erne, Mantha, Domi out of the top 15 which means they could be names to watch for the LAK pick

Klimchunk down to 33

Duclair down to 35

Thedore down to 36

Lenhkoen down to 41

 

[InjuredChoker]

Jenner had assist in 2-0 win.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Curcuruto had 2 goals, +1. 31 points in 49 games, 8 goals +8.
Josh Anderson 2+1, +3 in a 3-0 win.

 

[Fro]

as posted by @CbjProspects ... your weekly Anton Forsberg dance video...i really hope this kid makes it to the CBJ...post game Bob/Anton dance parties would be magical!~!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRrHOK9A1vA&feature=youtu.be

 

[FlaggerX]

I spent Friday and Saturday at the Schott watching Ohio State play hockey against Notre Dame, who brought CBJ prospect T. J. Tynan into Columbus. And I liked what I saw. Tynan centered the 2nd line but he was part of the #1 PK and PP units, which says something right there. Very good on faceoffs, and he has a real set of wheels. He also has a knack for delivering fast, accurate passes, and showed really good ice vision. He goes to the net, and assisted on both Notre Dame's regulation goals on Saturday. He can win board battles, but if he gets locked up with a defenseman he's out of the play for the moment, which is what you would expect if a big defenseman gets ahold of a guy who might be smaller than Atkinson or Calvert.

All and all, I really liked his play.

I also liked that Ohio State took 3 out of the possible 4 points that weekend. Notre Dame was the better team. Ohio State beat them on Friday when one of the ND skaters took a game misconduct for a blow to the head. OSU got 3 pp goals on the ensuing major and the effort left ND gassed from then on. On Saturday ND was clearly the better team, outshooting Ohio State 47-28. Ohio State does have an outstanding goaltender though and Hjelle put the Buckeyes on his back stopping 45 of 47 with some amazing saves. He also stopped the first three in the shootout, and would have been 1st star in any game.

Tynan looks like a real prospect. Hjelle will be a free agent at the end of this season and maybe he might be someone the Jackets might want to look at.

 

[Fro]

interesting...couple ppl i talked to said Tynan was near missing...they didn't even notice him

 

[FlaggerX]

interesting...couple ppl i talked to said Tynan was near missing...they didn't even notice him

I made a point of looking for Tynan. He made a lot of good passes into the crease, or entered it and made a drop pass which unmasked OSU's defenses. He'd didn't score a goal, but was often in front of the net once the puck headed into the net. Usually he was on pressuring the puck on defense. On Friday though he was really gassed during the 5 minute penalty to begin the second. It really slowed him down. But he strikes me more a playmaker then a finisher and he is small, which would make him easier to miss.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Jenner had 2 assists, +3 in a 8-2 win over Belleville.

 

[Sore Loser]

Oskar Dansk's team struggling mightily without him - lost an 11-4 decision at the hands of Steve Spott's Kitchener Rangers today.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Oskar Dansk's team struggling mightily without him - lost an 11-4 decision at the hands of Steve Spott's Kitchener Rangers today.

And that was with Matt Puempel being completely shut out on the scoresheet too.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Dansk needs off Erie.

 

[Sore Loser]

Dansk needs off Erie.

Disagree.

Just because the situation isn't ideal, doesn't mean he won't succeed or learn from playing there. That team has Connor McDavid on it, and is going to be a team on the rise very soon. Better to be a part of a struggling team that rises to success, in my opinion ... as many young players with the Jackets will likely have to do. At least in Erie, he's seeing a lot of shots. And good quality ones, to boot. James Reimer played for the Red Deer Rebels in a similar situation. Carey Price with the cellar-dwelling Tri City Americans is another fine example. Goaltenders are so often made by their character, and character can be honed just fine on a dismal team.

 

[InjuredChoker]

2 games and 2 assists for Jenner, Friday and Saturday.

Curcuruto with a goal +3. Kid has been playing pretty well, stat wise at least.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Anderson 1+1.. London lost again, they've been struggling a little, at least compared to how they started the season.

Jenner 1g, +1.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Dansk back on the win column in a 4-3 win over London, 31 saves. Anderson was -2.

Jenner had a goal and assist, +1 in a 6-4 win.

 

[Randy BoBandy]

So it looks like Atkinson is on his way back. Where do you guys see him playing when he gets back?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

So it looks like Atkinson is on his way back. Where do you guys see him playing when he gets back?

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a conditioning stint in Springfield.

 

[Randy BoBandy]

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a conditioning stint in Springfield.

I have a feeling this will be the case. Hopefully he continues to do well.

 

[Jacket]

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a conditioning stint in Springfield.

I would agree with him being sent down for a conditioning stint in Springfield. But I would be really surprised if he was sent down for conditioning.

He hasn't been on the shelf that long, he's probably been working out/practicing, and the team could really use Cam's skill in the line-up.

 

[CBJx614]

I would agree with him being sent down for a conditioning stint in Springfield. But I would be really surprised if he was sent down for conditioning.

He hasn't been on the shelf that long, he's probably been working out/practicing, and the team could really use Cam's skill in the line-up.

somebody posted in another thread that portzline said he has been skating this whole time and there was no need for conditioning.

 

[Crede777]

somebody posted in another thread that portzline said he has been skating this whole time and there was no need for conditioning.

Rehabbing high ankle sprains is so weird.

Sometimes it's crutches and a boot. Other times they say stretching it and using it carefully is the best rehab. It really runs the gamut. It can also only last a few weeks to a whole year.

WTF high ankle y u haff to b like dis?

 

[Randy BoBandy]

Rehabbing high ankle sprains is so weird.

Sometimes it's crutches and a boot. Other times they say stretching it and using it carefully is the best rehab. It really runs the gamut. It can also only last a few weeks to a whole year.

WTF high ankle y u haff to b like dis?

Could not agree more. I was playing hockey and had a high ankle sprain during the season and it wasn't the same for many months. It was horrible. I tried to skate after a month and I couldn't perform properly for a while, but then again I didn't have pro trainers and tons of money and time to make it better.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Hf's Brock talks about most improved OHL players this season in this article. Number 10 is Josh Anderson

10. Josh Anderson - London Knights
While the offensive numbers don't go jumping out at you (19 goals, 39 points thus far), you have to watch him play to truly appreciate what he does for London on a nightly basis. We saw flashes of this last year; that budding power forward approach. But nothing to the extent that we're seeing this year. He's so incredibly difficult to stop with the puck on his stick and he really wears down opposing defenses and creates space for his linemates. Nearly every time I've seen London play, he's stood out for the right reasons. And that includes his play away from the puck too. His shot and ability to score off the rush still needs improvement in order for him to take that next step as a goal scorer, but I think he deserves a place on this list based on what he's been able to accomplish this season

And number 6 is Curcuruto.

6. Gianluca Curcuruto - Plymouth Whalers
Last year was a disaster for Curcuruto, as harsh as it sounds. He came into the year as a potential first round selection for the NHL draft, and ended up a 7th rounder after a 16 point, -14 year on a roller coaster Greyhound team. That lead to his trade to Plymouth in exchange for Mitchell Dempsey (ask Greyhound fans how they like that deal now). Curcuruto has now re-established himself as one of the top '94 defenseman in the league. He's become Plymouth's top defenseman and is now brimming with confidence. His 9 goals on the year are triple that of his career high, and he's going to (likely) post his first positive +/- in his three year OHL career. His ability to run the powerplay, lead the rush, and defend his zone with urgency have taken massive steps forward. He looks like a new man in the green and blue.