Rumor: CBJ interested in Ryan Callahan

[DJA]

So wait, in the other thread people wanted a young guy with toughness and leadership who can score, and we're rumored to be in the bidding for one, and now no one wants to give up anything of consequence to acquire him? Losing JJ would hurt, but our defense can afford to lose a piece. Rychel MAY turn into a Callahan, in 5 years or so.

also, people were OK with giving up a 1st for Steve Ott as a rental but not a signed Ryan Callahan? Confusing.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

The term is the scary part. Lots of teams have the spending room now with the sudden upping of the cap, but they won't in five years, when Callahan might not be much of a player. A lot of guys like him have short careers.

Yep, and he's already breaking down. Look at his injury history. It's almost as long as Gaborik's

 

[XLJ]

From a Columbus perspective, I'm not sure why they want Callahan. Especially at 6 million per year. They already have a bigger younger version of Callahan in Boone Jenner.

Jarmo should be trying to add another sniper since Gaborik hasn't worked out.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

So wait, in the other thread people wanted a young guy with toughness and leadership who can score, and we're rumored to be in the bidding for one, and now no one wants to give up anything of consequence to acquire him? Losing JJ would hurt, but our defense can afford to lose a piece. Rychel MAY turn into a Callahan, in 5 years or so.

also, people were OK with giving up a 1st for Steve Ott as a rental but not a signed Ryan Callahan? Confusing.

Losing JJ and Rychel wouldn't just hurt, they'd be punches to the gut and nuts at the same time. Not only are you dealing your best defenseman and one of your newest 1st rounders, but its to the division rival right above you. Scary decision, one that could come back to bite hard.

 

[major major]

So wait, in the other thread people wanted a young guy with toughness and leadership who can score, and we're rumored to be in the bidding for one, and now no one wants to give up anything of consequence to acquire him? Losing JJ would hurt, but our defense can afford to lose a piece. Rychel MAY turn into a Callahan, in 5 years or so.

also, people were OK with giving up a 1st for Steve Ott as a rental but not a signed Ryan Callahan? Confusing.

I'm not up for trading a 1st rounder for either Ott or Callahan. Maybe Rychel, but seriously those guys are on the downside of their careers, and we're not yet at the stage with this franchise where it makes sense to load up for the playoff push. I don't even think those guys are better than Foligno or Dubinsky, they'll likely end up playing really low in the lineup and having little impact. What we need is top liners, remember.

 

[Jackets16]

JJ + Rychel + 1st?

Then turn Gaborik into a veteran defenseman?

I'd let the Rangers trade him to another team if they asked for that.

 

[Dr. Fire]

If he is being shopped by the Rangers then it should be a buyers market, so I agree the above mentioned package going back would be too rich.

My thought, though, is that if Sather doesn't want to meet his demands then why would we? Plus, I think dealing Callahan hurts the Rangers. Money talks and BS walks, but he is a heart and soul guy with some skill.

Plus, I don't want another injury waiting to happen player from the Rangers.

 

[DJA]

Losing JJ and Rychel wouldn't just hurt, they'd be punches to the gut and nuts at the same time. Not only are you dealing your best defenseman and one of your newest 1st rounders, but its to the division rival right above you. Scary decision, one that could come back to bite hard.

Hyperbole much?

First, JJ isn't our best d-man. Second, like I said earlier, you HOPE Rychel will become Callahan in 5 to 7 years. Third, are you not familiar with the multiple trades made between CBJ and NYR? hasn't really hurt either team by my estimation. in fact, both teams are on the upswing. i'm not too worried about Rychel scoring goals against us in 2020.

 

[DJA]

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Hyperbole much?

First, JJ isn't our best d-man. Second, like I said earlier, you HOPE Rychel will become Callahan in 5 to 7 years. Third, are you not familiar with the multiple trades made between CBJ and NYR? hasn't really hurt either team by my estimation. in fact, both teams are on the upswing. i'm not too worried about Rychel scoring goals against us in 2020.

Haha, who's a better dman on our team than JJ.

 

[DJA]

Haha, who's a better dman on our team than JJ.

Tyutin, Nikitin, Murray....do you watch the games?

 

[Socks]

Of course we're interested. They're the Rangers and we're the Jackets. The roster switch must not be complete yet.

 

[major major]

Hyperbole much?

Second, like I said earlier, you HOPE Rychel will become Callahan in 5 to 7 years. Third, are you not familiar with the multiple trades made between CBJ and NYR? hasn't really hurt either team by my estimation. in fact, both teams are on the upswing. i'm not too worried about Rychel scoring goals against us in 2020.

If the dinged up remnant of Ryan Callahan is making $6million from us five years from now I'd pay Kerby Rychel or a draft pick just to get rid of him.

 

[major major]

I agree that JJ isn't our best defender, or usually isn't. I think Tyutin, Wiz, Nikitin, Murray and JJ have all had 5-10 games where they've been our best.

 

[DJA]

If the dinged up remnant of Ryan Callahan is making $6million from us five years from now I'd pay Kerby Rychel or a draft pick just to get rid of him.

Same could be said for every single NHL player on a long-term contract.

 

[Boom Boom Geoffrion*]

Dubi and Cally - peanut butter and jelly. They were a great combo in Hartford, and in NY. I think both guys played their best hockey when they were together.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Tyutin, Nikitin, Murray....do you watch the games?

Thats cute. The only argument I could make would be for Murray, but he's not quite there yet

 

[DJA]

Dubi and Cally - peanut butter and jelly. They were a great combo in Hartford, and in NY. I think both guys played their best hockey when they were together.

Definitely. Callahan put up his best career point totals playing alongside Dubi. In fact, the entire Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan line was lethal for large swaths of the 10-11 season.

 

[Xoggz22]

JJ + Rychel + 1st?

Then turn Gaborik into a veteran defenseman?

Holy overpayment Batman! If that's what it takes, run. Run fast and far away. I just don't see what Callahan would give us that we don't already have and why would you trade a younger, contract friendly top 3 d-man plus two future pieces for him?

Sorry DJ but I think this is bad.

 

[CBJfan4evr]

We've got a glut of young defensemen, Erixon, Goboluef, Prout, etc. Trading D for D doesn't fix the problem; but a forward comming back still means a spot must be cleared. We've got a bit of a logjam at various line levels for forwards as well; Gaborik 1st/2nd when he returns;

Commeau on 3rd/4th line

Skille, Tropp and Boll on 4th line.

So any trade will be a combination of D and F moving with us likely getting a D-man in return.

Obvious need is another sniper. Does Callahan fin the bill who else is out there and available. 6-7 mil for a 25/yr goal scorer makes Umberger look like a bargain at 4.5

As much as I'd like us not to screw with the mix something is going to have to happen to readjust the player mix; otherwise we're going to lose some of these guys via waiver.

 

[Fro]

not for JJ, Rychel, and a 1st...would do that for Vanek or Moulson or Kane...but not for Callahan and not for 7 yrs and $42m...

 

[Crede777]

I'd welcome a trade where we acquired Callahan. That said, I don't think we should be moving Johnson + Rychel + a 1st for him, that would be INSANE overpayment.

Callahan should return about what Foligno did given his contract situation. I would only trade that kind of package for Kane, certainly not someone who is a pending unrestricted free agent.

Ideally we would move Letestu + Savard or something. Realistically, I think Anisimov could be traded back OR we move someone like Tyutin/Nikitin. I hope we don't look to move either Calvert or Atkinson because they need each other in order to play well. I really think the CBJ need to keep Johnson, Murray, and Wisniewski as the 3 most important players on the backend. Some have said Tyutin has been our best defensemen this year, but I just haven't seen it. He hasn't been terrible, but we only need one Jack Johnson-esque player and Tyutin hasn't been good enough defensively to compensate. That said, moving him (or even Nikitin) would open up a hole on our defense that would need to be filled immediately.

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Umberger and Goboluef for Callahan would be a nice compromise...

I don't know what it would take, but I would kill to see a Cam-Dubi-Callahan line.

 

[DJA]

Callahan should return about what Foligno did given his contract situation. I would only trade that kind of package for Kane, certainly not someone who is a pending unrestricted free agent

You missed the part about NYR allowing other teams to talk to Callahan's agent. This would be a sign and trade type deal, where the team acquiring him would have his services on a long-term deal that has already been agreed upon.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

not for JJ, Rychel, and a 1st...would do that for Vanek or Moulson or Kane...but not for Callahan and not for 7 yrs and $42m...

That seems to be a lot for Callahan. That 7 years is scary too. 7x6=no