GDT: CASTAWAYS @ HOUSE OF THE STORM

The S5

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Tony D is a better puck mover than Dougie. He's probably on par with Dougie defensively, who left a lot to be desired. Dougie had a better shot. Oh, Tony will also stick up for his team mates. Also, he's probably one of the most liked players in the locker room. I think he'll be just fine.
There will be ups and downs, but this is a really good team.
 

surfzone365

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Tony D is a better puck mover than Dougie. He's probably on par with Dougie defensively, who left a lot to be desired. Dougie had a better shot. Oh, Tony will also stick up for his team mates. Also, he's probably one of the most liked players in the locker room. I think he'll be just fine.
There will be ups and downs, but this is a really good team.
Who’s Dougie?
 

TheReelChuckFletcher

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Tony D is a better puck mover than Dougie. He's probably on par with Dougie defensively, who left a lot to be desired. Dougie had a better shot. Oh, Tony will also stick up for his team mates. Also, he's probably one of the most liked players in the locker room. I think he'll be just fine.
There will be ups and downs, but this is a really good team.

Dougie's by far the better defender; he's actually playable on a PK for a good team. But is it $8M better than DeAngelo's defense? No.
 

tarheelhockey

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Long Islanders in the general vicinity of the Raleigh metro going to the game? Not surprised. Them going home devastated? Also not surprised.

I’ll give them credit, Isles fans always come off like actual hockey fans and not just cosplaying hometown nostalgia for a night. They’re a very different crowd than your Rangers or Penguins types.
 

TheReelChuckFletcher

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I'm a big proponent of saying that it's a good thing when ex-Canes play well with their new teams. It's a sign that we have a strong crop of talent that we've developed. I remember during the dark ages when our former players would play for us for a couple of seasons and then struggle to get playing time elsewhere in the league.
 

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I may be in the minority, but I thought that Andersen was fine, outside of his puck-handling. All 3 goals were unlucky, really, a review and 2 really unlucky bounces after decent saves. He did his job and made the saves he needed to. Now, he just needs to learn to either leave the puck on a T for one of his D or just stay in his crease, no more clearing attempts for him please.

By the third period I figured out why he makes me nervous. He seems to commit very hard to the near-side angle. So he ends up doing that thing where the puck gets past him toward the back side, and rather than make some dive or split he just looks over his shoulder with a prayer. That style is nerve-wracking as hell, half the time it looks like he’s been scored on, or at least that it’s imminent if anyone gets a stick on the puck.

Maybe he can play that style with our D, given that we have a group which generally takes away wide-open back door plays. We’ll see.
 
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Tony D is a better puck mover than Dougie. He's probably on par with Dougie defensively, who left a lot to be desired. Dougie had a better shot. Oh, Tony will also stick up for his team mates. Also, he's probably one of the most liked players in the locker room. I think he'll be just fine.
There will be ups and downs, but this is a really good team.
Hamilton is much better defensively and it isn't close
 

Finlandia WOAT

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Tony D is a better puck mover than Dougie.

It's close.

He's probably on par with Dougie defensively,

No.

Dougie had a better shot.

Yes.

Tony will also stick up for his team mates.

Yes.

Also, he's probably one of the most liked players in the locker room.

He got kicked out of the last locker room he was in for picking a fight with the goalie.

Overall, TDA looked like a good 3rd pairing #1PP defenseman, excellent value for a 1 yr 1 mil aav contract. And I thought he played well tonight.

Thought the 'Canes thoroughly outplayed the Islanders, but it's the 1st game, but still. For stretches the team didn't look like it missed a beat.
 

AhosDatsyukian

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Just finished watching the game (had to record it as I got home around 9pm). Here are my thoughts:

- Turbo had his best game as a Cane if you ask me, he was phenomenal. If he’s this aggressive and willing to shoot like this every game we’re a much better team and he can help our top 6 take another big step forward. That whole 2nd line was great and showed great chemistry. Tro solid as always and Svech showing why us Canes fans were so excited about his steal of a deal.

- Very happy with most of the new guys. DeAngelo was amazing. Had some really solid defensive plays, physical play, and ran the PP as well as or better than Dougie did. Bear was impressive too. Freddie was ok, none of the goals were really bad on his part and 1 shouldn’t have counted but he also wasn’t spectacular either. I think he’ll settle in here.

- Top line wasn’t great but I think we just need to give them more time to gel. JK mostly nonexistent frankly but I didn’t expect a ton from him this early.

- Bottom 6 I think is a fairly sizable upgrade from the last few years. Stepan was great, Fast is getting settled pretty well after a somewhat disappointing first season here (but we’ve seen that with a lot of new acquisitions), Staal still moosing it up and Nino had a great game too especially in his more limited role on the 3rd line compared to previous seasons.

- Slavin great as always. Same with Pesce aside from the 1 goal that he could have played much better. Skjei had a really rough game defensively though — uncharacteristic of him compared to last year so not too worried. Cole I think is a big upgrade at 3rd pair LHD. Wasn’t perfect but we’ve had a bit of a void there the last few years (really since CDH if you ask me).

- Overall very encouraging opening performance. PP was great. PK was very good too albeit against a subpar PP. Was thrilled to see the old Storm Surge come back. Oh and also I think Mike called one of the best games of his career. I think he’ll settle in really well with Tripp over the next several years. Maybe never Forslund good but much much better than he started out.
 

AhosDatsyukian

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Hamilton is much better defensively and it isn't close

I think Dougie was significantly better defensively here than DeAngelo was in his NYR career. But I also think Dougie was better defensively here than he was in Calgary or Boston, so it’s possible that RBA and our coaching staff can help TDA improve like they did with Dougie. TDA was rock solid defensively today anyways.
 

Lays

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Didn't have a lot of defending to do so I don't know much about his pure defensive skills at this point but when you have the puck on your stick as much as he does and you can do things with it that he does... the sky is the limit. Also completely ragdolled Clutterbuck to break up a potential SH chance for the Isles. The situation in NYR must have been absolutely nuclear for them to completely give up on him.
I don’t agree with it but the reason NYR gave up on him was because he was too political on Twitter and him and Georgiev got into a fight. Happy that TDA has looked good he was my favorite player on NYR
 
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Lays

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Hamilton is much better defensively and it isn't close
Ehh that’s simple not that true. DeAngelo is very underrated defensively and has the physicality Dougie lacks. Canes fans might have not seen it yet, but DeAngelo wins nearly every fight he gets into as well as being more aggressive than Dougie. You guys will be pleasantly surprised. DeAngelo gets shit for his defense because of his history and political views but in reality he gives max effort defensively while not being a liability. Don’t know how he looked tonight, but typically he isn’t a problem defensively. People just look for stuff to nitpick because his history+views
 

Finlandia WOAT

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DeAngelo gets shit for his defense because of his history and political views

It's cause of stuff like this:

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Don’t know how he looked tonight

He looked great tonight, in a sheltered 3rd pair/1st PP role.
 

Lays

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It's cause of stuff like this:

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He looked great tonight, in a sheltered 3rd pair/1st PP role.
Advanced stats<eye test. Tony was never bad defensively in NY and anyone who’s not politically biased will agree. He was always very solid and is more physical than the typical offensive defenseman
 

TheReelChuckFletcher

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Advanced stats<eye test. Tony was never bad defensively in NY and anyone who’s not politically biased will agree. He was always very solid and is more physical than the typical offensive defenseman

DeAngelo and Skjei had a similar issue with the Rangers. Their team defense under David Quinn was horribad, hence why almost every defender that has played for the Rangers, short of a special unicorn like Adam Fox, has had mediocre to bad analytics with the Rangers.
 

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