I agree but therein lies the problem. We have waited 13 years and now they made a deal where we will have to wait a long time again to find out if we did any good. Most of us wanted to trade for a vet where we would know pretty quickly if it was the right move or not.
I'm really curious what it's like to see the future. Can you tell me more about it?
Buffalo proves once again that like Arizona, it is the NHL's farm team.
byram plays the right side as well. he's way too good to be on the 3rd pair
Which is not based in reality since virtually all these guys have trade protection and aren't coming here.
If anything Krebs needed to be traded for a heavier veteran and more responsible checking C. We don't even have a 4th C now, let alone a better and more experienced one. It's a major roster hole now. To try and mitigate that problem with a cap space argument (we should have 3-5 mil in cap space even if we re-signed Mitts), or pumping up Byram who won't be taking ice time or role away from Dahlin/Power anyway, just doesn't sway the narrative.
Been watching Byram closely for 3 seasons - when he hasn't been injured. Or concussed. It's not hard to conclude or postulate. He needs a lot of development and mentoring. Who is going to do that?
I prefer not doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Year 3 with this same group was going to be just that.
I want Reinhart back, I want Ullmark back. Those were "moves" too.
So you'd be fine trading Tage Thompson for Nic Deslaurier? Because hey, any move is better than no move right?
Yes that’s exactly the point I was making, thank you.
Byram might turn out to be a great pickup, but his skill set is redundant, and he makes an already too young team younger. His "nasty streak" and willingness to fight isn't nearly as appealing in a 22 year-old already with 3 concussions.
I don't want to seem like I'm doing that, but there are all kinds of good moves and bad moves that can fall under the "doing something" or "doing nothing" category. This falls under doing a bad thing.
One step up, two steps back.
It's not a strawman. I said I'd prefer no move to making a bad one. You disagreed saying you'd prefer anything over doing the same thing over and over. Then i provided a hypothetical example to show that you even have your limits. Its an exercise designed to show that you have your limits as well, we just disagree on where the line is drawn. You discarded it because not doing so would have required you to acknowledge that sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something. Which is the whole point of our discussion.
He's a defensive liability, and just cracked 50 games played this season for the first time in his career.
I said that rolling out the same roster 3 years in a row would be stupid. Never did I say doing something is always better than doing nothing. And then you provide an absolutely ridiculous and frankly insulting example.
Byram is 3rd in ES minutes on the Avs (1 second less a game than Makar) and was 3rd in PP minutes. He was low on the PK icetime list, but that doesn't always indicate he's bad, just that the Avs have more experienced options. He logged most of his minutes with Girard, Manson or Makar also.
You haven't watched him much this season right? He's been a disappointment on D.....
If you are going to feel insulted by me drawing the natural conclusion from you saying "doing nothing for three years in a row would be stupid" as being equal to "we need to do something" and then presenting a scenario that shows this isn't the case and that doing something could be bad, then I agree we don't have anything else to discuss. I'm sorry you feel insulted.
i know why the Avs traded him. I don't know why the Sabres traded Mitts.
I have sincerely appreciated your insight into Bo, but this caught my attention. More proof that Granato is going nowhere anytime soon.
