Confirmed with Link: Carter Hart Officially Charged With One Count Of Sexual Assault (Per His Lawyers); Non-roster, salary cap info in OP

[Hollywood Cannon]

You know, guys, I once beat the Flyers organization in a class action lawsuit. I'm kind of a big deal.

I proceeded to immediately lose the compensation that they gave out but oh well. It's on the records.

 

[deadhead]

I may be a little biased here being an attorney, but that's kind of the point of a class action lawsuit though. Most people aren't going to have a strong enough case to make it worth your time or the lawyers time or the court's time but class action lawsuits are a way to hold the wrongdoers accountable. And yes lawyers make more money than the individual claimants most of the time, but if you have a case where your damages are $7.50 no lawyer will take your case and the wrongdoer will essentially be free to rip off as many people as possible for that $7.50 windfall over and over again with little no consequences since no one will sue over $7.50 worth of damages.

Now, if you have suffered a SERIOUS injury from something like a defective product where you had an actual injury that can be connected to the product (or whatever the issue is) then yes, your best bet is to find your own attorney and not be part of the class.

Unless of course it's a really complex suit where you'd need expensive experts, months of discovery, etc. where the lawyers need multiple plaintiffs to justify the costs of bringing a suit to court.

People forget tort lawyers bear all the risk, so they won't take cases where there isn't a good probability they'll recover enough money to cover their costs (not just lawyers, paralegals, consultants, etc.) and make enough to justify all the time they have to put into the case. Since they'll lose some cases, they have to win big when they win to stay in business.

 

[FlyerNutter]

If you don't think Hart lived up to expectations on the ice, that's up to you. But then I don't think your expectations were reasonable. The thing that made Hart such a highly-rated prospect was the likelihood relative to other Goalie prospects that he would be a good NHLer. Of course there were people calling him Carey Price, but those sources were...poor.

He was the best goalie the team had since Mason. He’s a number 1 tender in the league.

You’ll see the Flyers ball licker media downplay his impact but he was the most talented/highest ceiling youngster in the org aside from Cutter Gauthier/Matvei.

Even if they were to trade him, to just lose the asset sucks. It would have made sense to re-sign Carter imo as an above average tandem would have been crucial with this BS “no high end talent needed” philosophy of building a team.

When it became clear there was no actual rebuild, Hart was a necessity moving forward imo.

It’s a shit month to be a fan of the team. Lose your number one goalie, and number two prospect in a stupid trade for an injury prone defenseman.

That’s tough, even if they will try to spin it otherwise.

 

[Cmoneyflyguy]

Sigh - the Flyers are cursed when it comes to goalies. It's really striking. They end up traded, blind, dead, vertigo'd or in jail.
Who signed a deal with the devil for 74/75?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

He was the best goalie the team had since Mason. He’s a number 1 tender in the league.

Yep. Good player.

Goalies aren't consistent in the sense that people traditionally mean it. That's just how it works. Funnily enough, there used to be one exception to this. John Gibson was very good to great year in and year out. And then he just fell off a cliff one day in his mid 20s and that was that.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

Carter Hart has played his last NHL game at 25 years old!
All the talk on trading him the last few years was all for not…he was red flagged and the whole NHL knew about his situation.
Sympathy to the victim…
PERIOD!

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

Things are good in the hockey world.

 

[BernieParent]

Don't we already have one of those in Arizona?

Spillover.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

*Edit* Oh good I read that wrong.

If you saw this, ignore it completely. I'm an idiot and also the Hockey Canada site is terrible. TERRIBLE.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I'm sure it was out there, but this is the first I'm hearing about the Halfiax allegation. I went to look at the roster out of curiosity and almost did a spit take. I know nothing whatsoever, nor am I making even the slightest hint of an accusation. It just wasn't what I was expecting to read.

WJC team, my friend.

I will not be making any assumptions about a number of players on that team though.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

WJC team, my friend.

I will not be making any assumptions about a number of players on that team though.

The Hockey Canada site is AWFUL. I already fixed it.

Iranian hacker groups make it easier to find relevant info than HC (not you).

 

[bennysflyers16]

WJC team, my friend.

I will not be making any assumptions about a number of players on that team though.

Well one name sure stands out there !

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

If you don't think Hart lived up to expectations on the ice, that's up to you. But then I don't think your expectations were reasonable. The thing that made Hart such a highly-rated prospect was the likelihood relative to other Goalie prospects that he would be a good NHLer. Of course there were people calling him Carey Price, but those sources were...poor.

I think for most fans, their understanding of goalie prospects lags significantly behind their understanding of skater prospects. That combined with the media hype train and the early career success led to the general belief that we had a multiple time Vezina winner on our hands, which Hart clearly is not.

 

[Tripod]

Well one name sure stands out there !

I can tell you that Lupul and Upshall were on that team....and given their actions at a local golf tournament, they might be squirming right now.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I think for most fans, their understanding of goalie prospects lags significantly behind their understanding of skater prospects. That combined with the media hype train and the early career success led to the general belief that we had a multiple time Vezina winner on our hands, which Hart clearly is not.

The vast majority of fans don't understand prospects at all. Unless you are born into hockey/around hockey consistently growing up, you have to put in university course level research into development routes, league quality, understanding of how each junior/university/pro league work, production relative to age, age/birthyear, relative age effect, style of game based on country/continent, transfer agreements, and then understanding of positions and their relative prime production age.

 

[freakydallas13]

Well one name sure stands out there !

Who is it? I haven't dug into the list.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Who is it? I haven't dug into the list.

Our Gm ,

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Our Gm ,

Benny, no. That list doesn't exist. It's the wrong team. Forget you ever saw it.

Both I and the Hockey Canada website are useless. I searched for WJC and it gave me the World Champs team.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Why are hockey players such sexual deviants?

 

[GKJ]

Why are hockey players such sexual deviants?

Because by and large they they were kids they were never told no

 

[Embiid]

Our Gm ,

Can you imagine if he was implicated and the victim was handicapped....that is how surreal things are with this org anymore.

Edit: I see the list was wrong but still

 

[Ghosts Beer]

An article that has

Why are hockey players such sexual deviants?

It seems like there are tons of them throughout the world. It's bizarre to see how rampant it is.

 

[pit]

If they ever wanted to implement a “Caucasians” to balance out the Indian themed team names Utah would be probably be the most applicable.

Got that logo ready.

Also, I just read this whole thread through from yesterday and boy am I glad I read the Beef sanitized version instead of up-to-the-minute updates. Woof.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Text messages and cell phone video transcriptions from the incident are out there.

I will say, regardless of criminal culpability, it seems like pretty awful conduct

 

[landsbergfan]

Yep. Good player.

Goalies aren't consistent in the sense that people traditionally mean it. That's just how it works. Funnily enough, there used to be one exception to this. John Gibson was very good to great year in and year out. And then he just fell off a cliff one day in his mid 20s and that was that.

I do think that was a strength of Hart though, the consistency. There are plenty of sample sizes you can look at where he was very inconsistent, but I think overall he was a pretty consistent goalie you could count on to make important saves. That has a lot of value when it comes to contracts. The next stratosphere, which I don't think he belonged in, is the group that can take over a game consistently.

Every goalie is going to have stinkers and slumps. Every goalie in the NHL is capable of winning a game on their own. A guy like MAF is on his 4th team because his consistency was never worth his AAV. Hart, without putting too much thought into it, was on par with a guy like Jarry with a top end of like Oettinger. The true dominant playoff run missing from the equation.