GDT: Carolina Panthers 5: Young and the Restless Fans

[HisIceness]

Scored Touchdown. Successful week

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

That Cincy touchdown was the first truly poor play in two weeks. Carolina is not good enough to tackle like that and get away with it.

 

[MustardStew]

The offense can do stuff now - but we forgot how to tackle so it could happen...

 

[HisIceness]

Xavier Leggette TD!

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Glad to see Legette with a bit of a breakout game. We should be up 2 TDs if not for Diontae drops and terrible tackling. Either way good first half all things considered. Bengals are absolutely desperate and not quite as bad as their 0-3 record. Still not expecting a ton from the team this year but Canales looking more legit after the first 2 disastrous weeks. Dalton coming in obviously a big reason but I also think Canales is getting settled in a bit. He looked way over his head weeks 1 and 2 aside from Bryce sucking.

 

[cptjeff]

That absolutely should have been offensive pass interference.

 

[cptjeff]

Refs gift the Bengals a touchdown, but as well as the defense held for a very long sequence on the goal line, I'm pretty happy with that performance.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Back to sucking lol. Was a fun game and a half anyways

 

[Wolfpuck]

Welcome back to Earth boys.

 

[cptjeff]

So, there may still be a defensive issue.

 

[Bub]

Baker back to baking. Yiss.

ALSO… FU^K YOU CHEESEHEADS.

Better keep your head on a swivel next time you're in the Vengeanceland Bojangles parking lot.

 

[Unsustainable]

What happened with Young? Is it that he can't do those things at the NHL level that scouts thought he could do? Is it that he can't process the game when it's so much faster and bigger? Or does he still have this in him, but needs a fresh start? Or did the Panthers just ruin him "short term"? Or is he just not big enough to handle the rigors?

CJ Stroud was the best available, but Tepper and others didn't like how he sounded when he talked. They took magic beans over someone who was athletically and played a better pro style

 

[Bub]

CJ Stroud was the best available, but Tepper and others didn't like how he sounded when he talked. They took magic beans over someone who was athletically and played a better pro style

So you're saying Bryce Young is Mr Bean?

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Better keep your head on a swivel next time you're in the Vengeanceland Bojangles parking lot.

WELL THAT’D MAKE ME HAPPY, BECAUSE THAT’D MEAN THERE IS A BOJANGLES WITH A PARKING LOT.

 

[Stickpucker]

So you're saying Bryce Young is Mr Bean?

I'd like to see Mr bean get a start.

How old is he now?

 

[DaveG]

I'd like to see Mr bean get a start.

How old is he now?

69

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

CJ Stroud was the best available, but Tepper and others didn't like how he sounded when he talked. They took magic beans over someone who was athletically and played a better pro style

Is that a "hindsight" statement? IIRC, most of the rankings had Young above Stroud as well, didn't they? The only concerns I recall about Young were his size. I believe many on this board also liked the pick (not necessarily the trade, but the pick).

Anyhow, was just curious as I don't watch that Panthers often.

I understand the QBs are hard to predict when drafting so often times, guys that get drafted early flop and guys that get drafted later become HOFers. I was just curious about the specifics of why he's struggling and if there is hope for him.

 

[Tryamw]

The trade is akin to asking for a band aid to solve dismemberment. Young I was ambivalent to. Thought he might have it but Stoud was the higher bottom guy. Still not sure if we'd have broken Stroud

 

[Unsustainable]

CJ Stroud was the best available, but Tepper and others didn't like how he sounded when he talked. They took magic beans over someone who was athletically and played a better pro style

Stroud, Young and Richardson was the top 3.

Stroud was the most ready, Young had the Alabama pedigree while being way under sized and Richardson had the most raw talent and athleticism.

Reports was that the way Stroud spoke is why Carolina took Young over him, despite Stroud having the better QB IQ and size.

 

[NotOpie]

Stroud, Young and Richardson was the top 3.

Stroud was the most ready, Young had the Alabama pedigree while being way under sized and Richardson had the most raw talent and athleticism.

Reports was that the way Stroud spoke is why Carolina took Young over him, despite Stroud having the better QB IQ and size.

Wasn't it the "Wonderlic" like test that swung it against Stroud. I thought I read that Tepper and his wife put a ton of credence in that one factor and it swayed the decision. Not sure if it was the actual Wonderlic or one of the replacements/alternatives....

 

[tarheelhockey]

Despite the way it played out, I don’t think taking Young was that indefensible. There’s a lot of 20/20 hindsight about that decision, when at the draft it was all considered a toss up.

To me, the crazy thing is stripping down a whole-ass team, including trading the NFC OPOY and your #1 WR, in a tanking/trading bonanza during a year when everyone was saying “I dunno man, it’s a tossup” about the pick you burned down the franchise to get.

Like, the Pens tearing it all down for the Lemieux draft made sense… doing it for the Slafkovsky draft wouldn’t make sense. You need to know you’re getting the right guy and that the rebuild is gonna be so short your fans will forget it ever happened.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Stroud, Young and Richardson was the top 3.

Stroud was the most ready, Young had the Alabama pedigree while being way under sized and Richardson had the most raw talent and athleticism.

Reports was that the way Stroud spoke is why Carolina took Young over him, despite Stroud having the better QB IQ and size.

I just googled and looked at many rankings, unrelated to the Panthers, and most of them had Young over Stroud. I assume many of those rankings were likely people that never did interviews with the two of them like Carolina did. I think saying Stroud was the better prospect at the draft is hindsight.

That's not to say that how Stroud spoke played a role in Carolina's decision (as I have no clue but read the rumors). Just saying that universally, it looks like many pundits had Young rated higher.

my concern with Young was size and durability. If you are right in picking him, you look like a genius but that's a risk for a guy his size.

 

[Unsustainable]

I just googled and looked at many rankings, unrelated to the Panthers, and most of them had Young over Stroud. I assume many of those rankings were likely people that never did interviews with the two of them like Carolina did. I think saying Stroud was the better prospect at the draft is hindsight.

That's not to say that how Stroud spoke played a role in Carolina's decision (as I have no clue but read the rumors). Just saying that universally, it looks like many pundits had Young rated higher.

my concern with Young was size and durability. If you are right in picking him, you look like a genius but that's a risk for a guy his size.

Hes like a Doug Flutie with out the flakes and long bomb.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Hes like a Doug Flutie with out the flakes and long bomb.

I can name like 10 things about Doug Flutie that are cooler than the #1 thing about Bryce Young.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Despite the way it played out, I don’t think taking Young was that indefensible. There’s a lot of 20/20 hindsight about that decision, when at the draft it was all considered a toss up.

To me, the crazy thing is stripping down a whole-ass team, including trading the NFC OPOY and your #1 WR, in a tanking/trading bonanza during a year when everyone was saying “I dunno man, it’s a tossup” about the pick you burned down the franchise to get.

Like, the Pens tearing it all down for the Lemieux draft made sense… doing it for the Slafkovsky draft wouldn’t make sense. You need to know you’re getting the right guy and that the rebuild is gonna be so short your fans will forget it ever happened.

Yeah, I will repeat this…

There were 10 equivalentish trades in the NFL in last 35 years. Best outcome? Jared Goff. And Michael Vick.

While Vick revolutionized his position, he had very few good throwing seasons. And Falcons gave up a haul including LaDainian Tomlinson.

For Goff Rams lost a haul including a pick that became King Henry.

Other players - Mitch Trubisky, Trey Lance, RG3, Sam Darnold (I cheer for the guy but he didn’t pay off for the team that drafted him)

Mark “Buttfumble” Sanchéz (still more PO wins against Brady than Cpt. Fat Fu^k, Leader of Men), Jeff George, RYAN LEAF.

Carson Wentz too… who fell of a cliff and I don’t care. Foles won it for Eagles.