HisIceness
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That was one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen and I've seen Jameis Winston throw a lot of them.
GDT: Carolina Panthers 5: Young and the Restless Fans
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Stickpucker
Playmaka
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Panthaz89
Buffalo Sabres, Carolina Panthers fan
When is the GM getting fired we are the worst team in the league with no future we will be lucky to make the playoffs within 5 years in our current state.
Svechhammer
THIS is hockey?
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So how quickly does Reich get fired after this season
Man anything the team does at this point is just covering up for the fact they have the worst owner in professional sports. Tepper is slime, and he's killed the franchise for the next decade+
Daeavorn
livin' that no caps life
Tuesday can't come soon enough for real. I am tired of this incompetent franchise.
Boom Boom Apathy
I am the Professor. Deal with it!
- Sep 6, 2006
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I was always ambivalent towards the Panthers so I casually rooted for them. As a Packer's fan, I now detest them for creating such a positive future for the Chicago Bears.
Yeah, but it's the Bears we're talking about. They'll probably draft Cade McNown 2.0 next year.
I take it back. Dundon wouldn’t want anything to do with this dumpster juice.
Daeavorn
livin' that no caps life
New story on Athletic, will Belicheck be fired?
If so Tepper needs to fire Reich immediately if hell take another job.
If so Tepper needs to fire Reich immediately if hell take another job.
AhosDatsyukian
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I hate that cheating asshole with a passion and it could easily blow back up in our faces (see Sean Payton in Denver) but if it means a chance of making the Panthers even slightly remotely relevant again I'd be good with it. Would be pretty great to see the Boston sports fans and Brady c***gobblers upset at Billy B becoming the first HC to win a SB with 2 different franchises.
Knowing Tepper though, he'd do this, give Belichick everything he wants, and the dude would proceed to do in Carolina what he's done in NE the past few years -- bring us to hovering around .500 purgatory before becoming a true dumpster fire. But I guess we are already a true dumpster fire so .500 purgatory would be a big step up
Miami looks like they are ready to play... and Carolina is not. We jumped them whilst waking up but yeah.
tarheelhockey
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I know it’s a tough matchup, but it’s unbelievable how bad the Panthers are this season. Just unwatchable, getting pushed around out there.
Having a season like this immediately after trading their 1st is a ****ing disaster. They could have just sat on that pick, drafted a QB, and still had DJ Moore to throw the ball to. Hockey equivalent of the Leafs trading picks for Phil Kessel, finishing second-to-last, and missing out on Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Shit like that leads to a second rebuild.
And I’m not criticizing the trade per se. It’s the total-team performance in combination with the trade that’s inexcusable.
Having a season like this immediately after trading their 1st is a ****ing disaster. They could have just sat on that pick, drafted a QB, and still had DJ Moore to throw the ball to. Hockey equivalent of the Leafs trading picks for Phil Kessel, finishing second-to-last, and missing out on Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Shit like that leads to a second rebuild.
And I’m not criticizing the trade per se. It’s the total-team performance in combination with the trade that’s inexcusable.
Tepper took a below average franchise and f***ed it right into the ground.
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Daeavorn
livin' that no caps life
Before we do anything we need to fire Fitterer. He does not have a good enough eye for talent and he sucks at trades. We should NOT be trading up under any circumstances.
Why can we also not take advantage of the comp pick system? we never do anything like that.
Why can we also not take advantage of the comp pick system? we never do anything like that.
HisIceness
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I was kind of hoping they'd at least put up a respectable fight but they got their asses kicked after going up 14-0
tarheelhockey
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It’s a gamble to get the guy you believe can be a franchise cornerstone. If the gamble pays off, it’s a brilliant move. By nature, there’s that chance it doesn’t pay off. Week 6 of the first season is waaay too early to judge whether that part of the decision was sound.
But if the team completely ****ing implodes, it obliterates the whole strategy. The deal wasn’t supposed to include another #1 pick going back the other way. At that point it’s a deal nobody would consciously make.
Boom Boom Apathy
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That’s the problem though.
How many franchise cornerstone QBs are 5’10”? Maybe 5 years from now they’ll be proven right, but the panthers were a bad team that spent a lot to make a risky pick.
How many franchise cornerstone QBs are 5’10”? Maybe 5 years from now they’ll be proven right, but the panthers were a bad team that spent a lot to make a risky pick.
Yep. And from that, how many of those franchise cornerstone QBs that are 5'10" were good enough the first year to make a big enough difference to change the trajectory of the pick that was included in the trade? I mean, who didn't see this coming when you change coaches (thus plans), play an undersized rookie QB, got rid of your best target for that new QB, and already were one of the worst teams in the league? The 1OA for this year should have been baked into the assumptions of the trade when it was made. For any front office to act surprised that this is going to happen should be fired.
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Playmaka
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Agree very much with the first part, but I think that the second part is actually wrong. If you employ such a strategy, then you are never bad enough to get a a good shot a a franchise level QB via the draft (I know, you can get uber lucky like the Patriots did, but way more examples of best QB being taken in the top of the draft). If you draft the QB first, you can build around him as he learns the game because you will still suck. Then once he matures he, and the other high picks you have as he was getting his feet under him (and knocked out from under him during the games), will be ready at the same time. Plus, linemen that are of high quality can be found in free agency, unlike franchise level QBs. I think the Cowboys at the start of the Jones/Johnson era were the model for how to build a strong team: draft your franchise QB first, then follow that with other players as the draft pool and opportunity arises.
However, the key to this approach is having a young QB that is strong enough or mobile enough to avoid getting destroyed by the hits he will get in the first two years. A small guy like the Panthers took might not make it through enough seasons for this to work.
tarheelhockey
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I don’t think QB size is the driving factor here. QB ability is what matters. If you think you’ve got a good bead on a guy who will be the next HOF’er, you take that shot even if it means he’s getting there as more of a Russell Wilson type.
And I don’t think it was an automatic given that this team would be in the running for 1OA. They won 7 games last year with an equally pitiful roster and horrible luck. Even if they take a step back, that shouldn’t be a step from 7 to 0.
IMO, this is about a team woefully underperforming at the worst possible moment. Maybe it’s Reich, maybe it’s the players, maybe it’s the culmination of shit rolling downhill from the owner’s suite. Whatever it is, it’s a Hindenburg level disaster if they don’t turn it around immediately. It’s not hard to see this O-line getting Young seriously hurt, leaving them with nothing to show for the entire trade package.
HisIceness
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On one hand, the tickets are probably going to be cheap, this is how I eventually became a partial STH for the Charlotte Bobcats.
On the other hand, Bank of America Stadium has got to be bottom 5 overall fan experience. Even in good years the place is very bleh.
On the other hand, Bank of America Stadium has got to be bottom 5 overall fan experience. Even in good years the place is very bleh.
