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hblueridgegal

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The mental toughness and swagger vanishes again. At this point, it's hard to understand the way they lose their composure in the face of adversity a lot of the time. They aren't playoff newbies anymore. Some coaching creativity could provide a spark as well and that doesn't seem to be happening either. Rod swearing on his life that he thought that goal would be reversed..in what universe? Read the room, dude.
 

ndp

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Maybe us mere fans are looking at this all wrong.

Maybe, just maybe, this is what happens when the vital, hallway hype man goes down? They need someone to step up, put their big boy pants on and scream words in the tunnel before they step out onto the ice!

Roddy knew this all along, and for this reason, and this reason alone is why he petitioned for Marty Party to get them sweet, sweet dollars this past off-season. :sarcasmemogiethingy:
 

Heyheylj

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Am I irritated, disappointed, and on the verge of anger at the events that transpired today? Absolutely! However, I feel some of the comments are very reactionary. When this team plays the way it should, we dominate the Bruins as evidenced by the first two games. Unfortunately, taking mental lapses and breakdowns levels the playing field really fast. I hope Rod tries to put the SAT line back together. At least then we would have 2 lines going. Might be all we need to eek this series out.
 

CanesUltimate11

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The mental toughness and swagger vanishes again. At this point, it's hard to understand the way they lose their composure in the face of adversity a lot of the time. They aren't playoff newbies anymore. Some coaching creativity could provide a spark as well and that doesn't seem to be happening either. Rod swearing on his life that he thought that goal would be reversed..in what universe? Read the room, dude.
I mean, DeBrusk absolutely takes out Raanta’s leg before he knocks the puck in so I can see where Rod is coming from. But at the same time GI reviews are such a crap shoot that even with our normally good PK it’s not worth the risk in a tie game where they’ve had the upper hand for a good portion of it. Especially since the odds of them taking another penalty during the pk are huge given the path of the game.
 

The Faulker 27

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I mean, DeBrusk absolutely takes out Raanta’s leg before he knocks the puck in so I can see where Rod is coming from. But at the same time GI reviews are such a crap shoot that even with our normally good PK it’s not worth the risk in a tie game where they’ve had the upper hand for a good portion of it. Especially since the odds of them taking another penalty during the pk are huge given the path of the game.

To me it was obviously going to be questionable and in that scenario challenging is a huge risk, and puts your team in a bad position again. Should have taken it on the chin.
 

StorminSnvechnAho

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To me it was obviously going to be questionable and in that scenario challenging is a huge risk, and puts your team in a bad position again. Should have taken it on the chin.
Final three minutes of a game and they score to go ahead? Yeah you challenge 36 seconds left in the second period and its tied? Not a chance that was a 3 goal swing right there.... The stick to Bergernon doesn't likely happen....
 

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Holding Serve at Home Through 4, Post-lockout (Excluding the Bubble)

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Sigurd

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Feb 4, 2018
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In addition to not scoring on a power play two games in a row now, the refs (and the "war-room" assholes in Toronto) have another questionable call with goalie interference in this series (or in their eyes, lack thereof in this game) against us.

I'm so tired of goalie interference being the most ambiguous penalty in the game. Every time it's like playing roulette; you don't know what you're gonna get. GI in the NHL is like the sports equivalent of the rorschach test. Because of that, they selectively pick when to enforce the rule or not.

We also got some awful luck with penalties between Torcheck's delay of game, which is amazing he didn't shoot the puck up the ice anyway, and Aho drawing blood on a high stick (also, great job Aho with a high stick shortly after Boston tied it up).
 

StorminSnvechnAho

There is a storm coming prepare for the Surge
Feb 15, 2021
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Holding Serve at Home Through 4, Post-lockout (Excluding the Bubble)

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Next game favors the Canes historically, but is effectively a must win. No team in this type of series has won Games 6 & 7 after losing Game 5 since 1996 (Detroit over St. Louis).
This kind of series strongly indicates how much effect dictating the matchups in this series has.... you have a 5x Selkie winner on Aho and its their "Superline" I wouldn't be surprised to see The Staal line backed by Slavin/Pesce to ensure they are shut down..... Due to covid protocol Macaboy is guarenteed out Tuesday, (And I find it highly unlikely Lindholm returns from a concussion in 6 days) might be time to give SAT a crack at that lineup....

Side note THE ICE IN BOSTON IS TERRIBLE.... all game both games apparently the refrigeration was due to be upgraded when covid hit and they didn't pony up the $$$.
 

CanesUltimate11

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In addition to not scoring on a power play two games in a row now, the refs (and the "war-room" assholes in Toronto) have another questionable call with goalie interference in this series (or in their eyes, lack thereof in this game) against us.

I'm so tired of goalie interference being the most ambiguous penalty in the game. Every time it's like playing roulette; you don't know what you're gonna get. GI in the NHL is like the sports equivalent of the rorschach test. Because of that, they selectively pick when to enforce the rule or not.

We also got some awful luck with penalties between Torcheck's delay of game, which is amazing he didn't shoot the puck up the ice anyway, and Aho drawing blood on a high stick (also, great job Aho with a high stick shortly after Boston tied it up).

Those weren’t bad luck they were pure stupidity on the part of those guys. Tro make sure you skate another half foot before throwing it at the glass (unpressurized as well I think?) and Aho move your feet and don’t reach like that.
 

FlyingSquirrels

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In addition to not scoring on a power play two games in a row now, the refs (and the "war-room" assholes in Toronto) have another questionable call with goalie interference in this series (or in their eyes, lack thereof in this game) against us.

I'm so tired of goalie interference being the most ambiguous penalty in the game. Every time it's like playing roulette; you don't know what you're gonna get. GI in the NHL is like the sports equivalent of the rorschach test. Because of that, they selectively pick when to enforce the rule or not.

We also got some awful luck with penalties between Torcheck's delay of game, which is amazing he didn't shoot the puck up the ice anyway, and Aho drawing blood on a high stick (also, great job Aho with a high stick shortly after Boston tied it up).

Whether the call should have been overturned or not was not the most important thing at that point of the game. Let it stand, we are tied 2-2 and we then continue to dominate 5-on-5 like we have been all game. There would not have been a PP goal and the Aho double minor would not have occurred.
Considering all of the circumstances, it was one of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen. I know Rod is God around here and in the locker room, but SOMEONE should have stepped in and saved him from himself.
 

Sigurd

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Those weren’t bad luck they were pure stupidity on the part of those guys. Tro make sure you skate another half foot before throwing it at the glass (unpressurized as well I think?) and Aho move your feet and don’t reach like that.
That's what really got me. Yeah, Trocheck's wasn't really luck. It pissed me off because he had time and space. Aho was a dumbass, but of all the times we take a 4 minute high sticking, it's during a delay of game penalty for losing a challenge. Kind of bad luck drawing blood during that time IMO and getting a 5 on 3 with a 4 minute penalty. It's also interesting to me that it seems a 4 minute penalty is never called for anything but high sticking if blood is drawn; I say that because of recent examples like Rantaa and Smith who both drew penalties and both had blood from their faces.
 

CanesUltimate11

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That's what really got me. Yeah, Trocheck's wasn't really luck. It pissed me off because he had time and space. Aho was a dumbass, but of all the times we take a 4 minute high sticking, it's during a delay of game penalty for losing a challenge. Kind of bad luck drawing blood during that time IMO and getting a 5 on 3 with a 4 minute penalty. It's also interesting to me that it seems a 4 minute penalty is never called for anything but high sticking if blood is drawn; I say that because of recent examples like Rantaa and Smith who both drew penalties and both had blood from their faces.
I want to say that high sticking is the only call that allows for a double minor for an injury. I think other plays it’s two and with an injury it can be a major at the refs discretion. Which is what we saw with those two. Called a Major for the injury (I’m guessing) so they could review and downgraded to a minor.

And while I appreciate that Rod calls it like he sees it, back off with the claims the ref gifted Boston a goal. Make your statement that you challenged because you thought for sure it would come back and leave it at that.

There is working the refs and then there is what he did. Not helping himself or the team frankly.
 

Canes

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This team has consistently trended upwards under Brind'Amour in the regular season. I do wish he would be a bit more hard nosed in his approach like when he was a player but ultimately he's a very good coach. With the right players I think he could easily coach a Cup winning team.

To me, the current play again falls on the players and the roster construction. Feel like we're trying to ram some square pegs into round holes yet again and getting confused why that won't work.
 

WreckingCrew

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This team has consistently trended upwards under Brind'Amour in the regular season. I do wish he would be a bit more hard nosed in his approach like when he was a player but ultimately he's a very good coach. With the right players I think he could easily coach a Cup winning team.

To me, the current play again falls on the players and the roster construction. Feel like we're trying to ram some square pegs into round holes yet again and getting confused why that won't work.
I dunno, if we get ousted by Boston 3 out of 3 times, with different players each time, that looks pretty bad from a coaching perspective
 

The Faulker 27

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The one thing Rod can't control are the players taking stupid penalties. He can preach about it until he's blue in the face, but ultimately it's on them. There's a reason we have the best PK in the league. We have a lot of experience. If that doesn't change Boston will win this series. We're stronger 5v5 but we need the opportunity to prove that.
 

Chrispy

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The one thing Rod can't control are the players taking stupid penalties. He can preach about it until he's blue in the face, but ultimately it's on them. There's a reason we have the best PK in the league. We have a lot of experience. If that doesn't change Boston will win this series. We're stronger 5v5 but we need the opportunity to prove that.
But one thing Rod can control is not taking stupid penalties himself.

Todays challenge was a stupid penalty by Rod. It was exacerbated by a dumb penalty by Aho, but the penalty by Nino that resulted in the tieing goal was in fact a good play made a penalty by a great play by Smith.
 
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The Faulker 27

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But one thing Rod can control is not taking stupid penalties himself.

Todays challenge was a stupid penalty by Rod. It was exacerbated by a dumb penalty by Aho, but the penalty by Nino that resulted in the tieing goal was in fact a good play made a penalty by a great play by Smith.

I can at least understand why he made the call. He saw a quick replay it looked like Raanta's pad gets pushed in from the side, puck pops out and they poke it in.

I haven't really gone back to study it, but he gambled and lost. Poor choice IMO given how those calls go. It was likely the turning point unfortunately, but don't forget Svech had the stupid cross check right after we scored that killed all of our momentum. As one example.

Svech, who by the way, has no points in the last 2 games.

They took 9 penalties. A lot of it was careless stick infractions. That stuff is just unacceptable at this point. Here and there sure, but it's the same story different year. We're taking entirely too many penalties against one of the best top lines in the NHL.

Their top line has picked us apart. It would be extremely disappointing to allow that to continue given how those first 2 games went.
 
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