Confirmed Trade: [CAR/PIT] Jake Guentzel (25% retained), Ty Smith for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, 2024 cond. 1st, 2024 cond. 5th

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Hoglander has 20 ES goals this season with basically no PP times

Which is irrelevant to this thread.

 

[Zbynek]

Hoglander has 20 ES goals this season with basically no PP times

Holy hell man. They can't control themselves.

 

[Turin]

Hoglander has 20 ES goals this season with basically no PP times

Pittsburgh has 5 Cups with basically no riots

 

[Zbynek]

 

[DearDiary]

Hoglander has 20 ES goals this season with basically no PP times

Yes, that's what happens when you shoot at an unsustainable 20.6%. He's currently on pace for 40 points and due for a regression next season

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

That is a monster return, amazing deal for Penguins.

 

[Wattsburgh]

That is a monster return, amazing deal for Penguins.

I hope so. But Sullivan is terrible at managing young talent. So it still looks like quantity over quality for me.. I’d rather have done a swap of Necas for Guentzel.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I hope so. But Sullivan is terrible at managing young talent. So it still looks like quantity over quality for me.. I’d rather have done a swap of Necas for Guentzel.

Necas for Guentzel was never going to happen in a deadline rental deal. That’s unrealistic expectations.

 

[Ryder71]

Necas for Guentzel was never going to happen in a deadline rental deal. That’s unrealistic expectations.

The way we're sinking, he wouldn't have helped. If you look at the totality of what we got it's pretty good. And we desperately need to build for the future.. We can miss on two of those prospects but if even one turns out it was smart move. Hopefully all of them but...

Likely gonna get a top 10 pick this year.

 

[KrisLeturnover]

The way we're sinking, he wouldn't have helped. If you look at the totality of what we got it's pretty good. And we desperately need to build for the future.. We can miss on two of those prospects but if even one turns out it was smart move. Hopefully all of them but...

Likely gonna get a top 10 pick this year.

*1st overall

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I hope so. But Sullivan is terrible at managing young talent. So it still looks like quantity over quality for me.. I’d rather have done a swap of Necas for Guentzel.

And I’d rather go to bed each night with Margot Robbie than my wife but that’s about as realistic as your proposal.

 

[bleedgreen]

And I’d rather go to bed each night with Margot Robbie than my wife but that’s about as realistic as your proposal.

They as a group don’t seem to grasp trade deadline deals and what rentals are worth. To be fair, they’ve rooted for a really good team that doesn’t do a lot of selling so maybe it’s a new experience for them. Necas, Hoglander, multiple first rounders…..it doesn’t matter that no one gets that. This trade is seriously the biggest rental haul I’ve ever seen in 20 plus years and they’re complaining.

Welcome to having a suck team I guess. We as Canes fans have obviously been there.

Ps….we never got anything like this!

 

[chethejet]

Jake sign and trade gives Dubas a much stronger hand. But the return of decent prospects are welcome. Pens are beginning the rebuild here and now the goal is not getting older but younger bigger better and adding talent. Look Pens had a great run with star players up there with anyone. As Pens trade players that have value, hopefully Dubas maximizes that., The need to rebuild is just the way it goes for teams that come to an end. Pens went all in when it really wasn't the best way to go. But hard to argue the success.

 

[Unsustainable]

Anybody know why Ty Smith is still playing for Wilkes-Barre Scranton? He had an assist with them tonight.

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Carolina doesnt have an AHL affiliate due to Chicago screwing us, so we have players playing on teams all over.

 

[Peasy]

Call it what you will but it's the first time they've been sellers. That's progress in my book.

Yeah cause you guys are so far out of the playoffs for the first time. In what world is taking back Michael Bunting in the trade and wanting more NHL ready prospects signals a rebuild?

 

[thefutures]

Yes, that's what happens when you shoot at an unsustainable 20.6%. He's currently on pace for 40 points and due for a regression next season

Canucks can trade him next season when crosby is available

 

[wej20]

Yeah cause you guys are so far out of the playoffs for the first time. In what world is taking back Michael Bunting in the trade and wanting more NHL ready prospects signals a rebuild?

Yep, Dubas is clearly going to try and rebuild on the fly which is difficult and pointless if Sully is kept on as coach.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

And I’d rather go to bed each night with Margot Robbie than my wife but that’s about as realistic as your proposal.

Tell that to your wife and see reaction

 

[JKG33]

Dubas must love keeping Bunting employed.

I wonder if Vancouver had Bunting if the trade would've went through.

The funny thing is Vancouver has their own mediocre overpaid 3rd line winger they couldve included that Dubas loves.. Mikheyev

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Tell that to your wife and see reaction

First rule of HF - you do not talk to your wife about HF.

 

[chethejet]

Look the rebuild is a combo of keeping decent team going for revenue reasons and Bunting is a good fit at LW for a team in transition. Pens are not in the blow it up mode. Yes Geno and older stars are fading. But Pens with some smart moves can still be a team to be a good team. Hire a coach and better staff, Trades like Smith for a 2nd, and keep adding good prospects and picks after next season as well.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

And to think, Ty Smith played a full season in the NHL.

Edit: Two seasons in the NHL.

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

Bunting has been noticeable in a positive way so far for the Pens. Not amounting to anything on the score sheet just yet though.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Enzo on the broadcast if I heard him right: "That 1st round pick is conditional, only a 1st if the Canes win the cup. If they do win the cup, that pick will be what, 24 or 25, so almost a 2nd round pick."

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Interesting peak behind the curtain on the trade from the Waddell perspective:

LeBrun: How the NHL trade deadline was won — inside 4 teams' approaches

How did the Hurricanes, Jets, Avalanche and Golden Knights pull off their gold-medal deadlines? Their GMs take us behind the scenes.

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Trade rumors aren't just for the fans. Waddell called Dubas again to express or reaffirm interest in Guentzel on Wednesday. LeBrun speculates that it's because of the CJ bombshell about a potential Boston/Vancouver/Pittsburgh 3-way trade on Tuesday.