Confirmed Trade: [CAR/MIN] Nino Niederreiter for Victor Rask

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Another fine example of HF not knowing shit about actual trade values.
 

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I’d almost rather have the guy who’s put in a position to fail and does over the guy who has been put in a position to succeed and still fails in this situation.

Rask was beaten out of a job by Clark Bishop, Lucas Wallmark, and Greg McKegg. He just didn't fit what Brind'Amour is trying to put together. I hope he heals up and rebounds in Minnesota.
 

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Nino Niederreiter's reputation seems to exceed him.

He's a 35 to 40 point player realistically, so he's a middle 6 winger.

Issue is, I'm not sure what Fenton saw when looking at Rask to say "this is the one we trade Nino for".

It's a win for Carolina, but it's not like a steal of any sort.
Probably the $1.25 million in cap space while still getting a 3rd line centre.
 

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I know people don't have the highest opinions of these charts(especially when tehy disagree with your opinion), but the difference is quite stark over the last 3 seasons.

This year's comparison is just a bloodbath:
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AS a Wild fan I'm not thrilled about the return, but I certainly am not crying over Nino leaving. He was someone I wanted Fenton to trade last offseason when he was "tweaking" the roster. With Coyle playing well as a center and Koivu not going anywhere, wondering if this is a sign that Staal is the next to move. I like the timing of the trade. Gives Fenton & Co. time to see if Rask can get his game on track to see if Staal can be more expendable. Huge Staal fan, but I worry about Fenton pulling a Chuck Fletcher and giving him a raise(deserved) with too much term on a still very good but declining player. Translation: I want us to be sellers and break the playoff streak to give us a shot at retooling this underachieving team.
 
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Hard to believe that out of 30 possible trade partners they couldn't get a better offer than Rask for Nino. Good deal for Canes.
 

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ah yes the HF designated "fleecing" by Carolina. I remember when the Flames got "fleeced" for Dougie Hamilton. Good times, good times
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out something like the Domi for Galchenyuk swap. Looks horrible for Minnesota now considering how unproductive Rask has been, but he's still a young center with 45 and 48 point seasons under his belt. Not sure what's been wrong in Carolina for the past 1.5 seasons but if he can bounce back in Minnesota he can easily match Niederraiter's production evening the deal out.
 

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Another fine example of HF not knowing **** about actual trade values.

If not for this trade carolina was probably going to healthy scratch rask and play aho + 3 ahl centers. I don't mean "ahl in quality", i mean 3 ahlers (i guess wallmark has upgraded his play to ahl quality, but whatever).

Its not that nino is awesome, rask was not doing anything for the canes. He needed a change of scenery.
 

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I like this trade for CAR (Nino is currently the better player), but I don't think MN got totally fleeced. Rask looked like a 50 point center not too long ago, while Nino has regressed from what looked like a 50 point winger. Rask has been terrible (going back to last season, like Nino), but he did just come back from a bad injury, all the while missing training camp/preseason. It's hard to catch up in the NHL. Plus Rask also makes less money.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out something like the Domi for Galchenyuk swap. Looks horrible for Minnesota now considering how unproductive Rask has been, but he's still a young center with 45 and 48 point seasons under his belt. Not sure what's been wrong in Carolina for the past 1.5 seasons but if he can bounce back in Minnesota he can easily match Niederraiter's production evening the deal out.
Thing is Rask skating is issue
 

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I don't much care about either player, but Nino definitely is going to the better "environment" as far as linemates go. Playing with a guy like Aho he could have a huge surge back.

Rask on the other hand is really what is.
 

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He's never been the greatest skater, but his first few years it was enough to keep up with his teammates. Canes have gradually built a faster team and now he's consistently behind the play.

Also, when he was scoring 45-50 points he was playing a blue-collar, efficient game in the middle of the ice. Kind of a quasi-PF role. But last year and so far this year he's become very much a perimeter player, and he just doesn't have the footspeed to be any good when he's not playing an efficient game.

I hope he turns it around because I've always liked him.

Neither has Nino and this year he seems even slower.

Niederreiter doesn't really fit to that faster team 100%. He's not slow, actually he used to be kind of fast and elusive for a bigger body.
 
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