Confirmed Trade: [CAR/MIN] Nino Niederreiter for Victor Rask

[ref19]

The best forward of Minnesota over the years would've been at best on par with Aho this season.

I mean he played with the likes of Parise and at times Granlund who are considered better than Aho... so yeah he did.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

people, Nino isn't that good.

 

[Kamiccolo]

I mean yeah, but why not last week or next week? We have no trades since January 3rd, and then in the span of 6 days we had 10 trades. Seems like a domino fell or something for all these moves to happen this week.

Yeah but to be fair like 7 of those is the Ducks trading their spare forwards for other teams spare parts

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Over the course of his six years in Minnesota he certainly did.

Who?

 

[Bazeek]

I have no problem with this because:

1) If both players return to form from 2+ years ago, it’s a wash
2) I’m not holding Rasks production against him yet, just look at the last three forwards to escape Carolina (Staal, Skinner, Lindholm)
3) Wild save a little bit of money
4) Nino was pretty much done on this roster

As negative as my initial reaction is I'm willing to buy that Fenton might just be a better judge of these things than I am. It's not impossible that Rask just needs a chance of scenery.

And frankly the same goes for Nino. I hope he kills it in Carolina.

 

[57special]

3 seasons ago when Nino scored 25 goals, Boeser was still in college, and we actually had some deep playoff run aspirations?

there you go adding that pesky "context" again.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Return is not that bad for Minnesota, especially when you consider that the last time Nino was traded, it was for a Clutterbuck.

Value wise Minnesota won that trade but here we are years latter and Clutter is still an effective two-way forward for the island.

 

[justafan22]

people, Nino isn't that good.

neither is rask though.

 

[MAHJ71]

I made a bad trade proposal three seasons ago involving Boeser for Niederreiter. Minnesota fans laughed at me and told me to GTFO. Now look.

Probably the other pieces of the trade that were 'involved' ?

 

[bleedblue1223]

Nino is what he is, a middle-6 guy. Rask's numbers were inflated in the first few years because he received ice time above his talent level. If he gets 16+ minutes, he'll put up better numbers, but it also means your forwards suck.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Plot twist: so has Nino

Well, his actual contribution to what happens on the ice is far superior to that of Rask.

 

[Roboturner913]

Plot twist: so has Nino

Nino's below average is .5 points per game and questionable defense. Rask's below average is .25 points per game and downright terrible defense.

 

[57special]

people, Nino isn't that good.

You're right, but it sounds like Rask is crap. That's disturbing, unless there is more to this deal that hasn't come out yet.

 

[Volica]

Rask the new PPG player incoming? Time to pick him up in fantasy!

I like this trade for both teams.
El Nino has carved out a reputation career, where people still see him as a legit winger; but he's no more than a middle 6 40ish point player. Vic Rask is a middle 6 40ish point centre. Not sure how anyone sees this as a fleecing of anyone regardless.

 

[The Podium]

Would imagine another Canes deal is in the works... They were already hurting for C, who replaces Rask now that they traded one away?

 

[GoldiFox]

4th liner in NHL is better offensively than 4th liner in AHL. Wouldn't still jump for joy if my team trades the AHLer for NHLer. Seriously expecting Nino being legit scoring forward is not something Carolina should count on. Maybe he can leech off points from Aho and Teuvo but that probably wouldn't make Carolina better team.

Nobody expects Nino to come in to Carolina and be a top scoring forward. Canes fans are happy because Victor Rask has been centering the Canes 4th line for $4 million and has looked bad doing it. Any middle-6 talent is a significant upgrade. It turned dead money into something possibly useful.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Why has Rask had such a poor year? He seemed to be a good player

 

[The S5]

He played with a lot better talent up front with MN and it didn't work

Better talent than Aho? Not too sure about that.

 

[AKL]

As negative as my initial reaction is I'm willing to buy that Fenton might just be a better judge of these things than I am. It's not impossible that Rask just needs a chance of scenary.

And frankly the same goes for Nino. I hope he kills it in Carolina.

This is more or less what we asked for and what we expected. Change of scenery deals.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Weird. A team with crap center depth trades a center to a team with good center depth. They got the best player though so I can't call it anything but a win for the Canes. Just a change of scenery type thing I imagine

 

[Ainec]

what the f*** Minnesota got raped

this screams of a new GM trade (doesn't value his predecessor's players)

 

[nt3005]

40 point pace, pretty damn good fancy stats... I think that slots him in as a top-6 forward on a number of teams.

He is super slow, looks like he's skating with concrete skates. Has been bad since getting hurt last year.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I mean he played with the likes of Parise and at times Granlund who are considered better than Aho... so yeah he did.

Minnesota fans might consider them better, not neutral fans. At best Parise and Granlund at those times are as good as Aho now. I'll take Aho personally.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Canes won this deal but because they're the Canes they'll end up losing it.

 

[skyo]

Rask likely reaches 50 points next season.