Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] Frederik Andersen signs with the Hurricanes (2 years, $4.5M AAV)

[Guy Boucher]

He's been pretty bad the past two years, but I always wondered if Andersen would do better if he had a good backup and got to rest more.

That theory would have been tested last year with Jack Campbell, but Campbell got injured early forcing Andersen to play a lot, then Andersen got injured.

He's probably a wash with Mrazek all things considered, but maybe with more rest he'll be a better goalie.

 

[Community]

Too much money but he is not a bad goalie. As someone else said he isn't likely to win games on his own but he also does not usually lose them on his own.

Weird take on Andersen IMO. He stole PLENTY of games from 2016-2019 and unfortunately he's started to cost his team multiple times with soft goals over the past 2 years.

If he can stay healthy and play closer to his early Leaf career level then you guys will have a stud that can steal games, but the one thing I WOULDN'T call signing Andersen at this time in his career is a safe bet.


Edit: I'll add that if he's fully healthy, I'll expect a good season from him. I just don't agree that he "won't win or lose you games" since he tends to make fantastic saves and also let in some stinkers.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

He is no more a starter in the NHL. I know that 32 is not even close to old but in Freddy's case it is.

He is heavy, big and now slow, there are too many games where he can't even catch a beach ball,
sure...sometimes he does play great and shows some highlight reel saves, wins a game where he saves 35+ saves,
but he always crumbles under pressure, always. - could work for Raanta's back up.

But still Canes having Raanta and Andersen as the goalie duo? doesn't look good, also looking at their roster to begin with (d & f)
the top is good but the important additional defense and scoring just isn't there, if you shut down Canes top guys, wont be too
difficult to beat them, weird moves this year.... maybe falling out of the play-offs?.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Freddy hasn't been healthy in 2 years and Raanta hasn't been healthy in his entire career.

There is a realistic possibility both guys will be hurt at the same time, that's probably going to happen

So the question is if both these guys go down is the 3rd guy good enough to win enough games to make the playoffs?

 

[Danrs112]

Is there an known reason they would want Andersen at $4.5M over Ned at $3M?

Seen that point mentioned but hadn't seen any reason offered.

 

[Cane mutiny]

Finally signed, only eleven years after drafting him!

Hard to believe it's been 11 yrs. Seems like 20.

 

[holy]

Freddy hasn't been healthy in 2 years and Raanta hasn't been healthy in his entire career.

There is a realistic possibility both guys will be hurt at the same time, that's probably going to happen

So the question is if both these guys go down is the 3rd guy good enough to win enough games to make the playoffs?

I believe in that case they would call upon a certain Leafs employee to help them out of their jam.

 

[Subway Schenn]

I liked Freddy on the Leafs, but yeah he really lost the plot the past couple of seasons (pretty much just as the team was starting to get better defensively). I don't know what it is but he's now shaky and just can't make the big save.

I hope he bounces back, I wonder what could have been with the Leafs, but was definitely surprised to see that contract especially with the injury concerns.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

He's a good goalie. Leafs overstretched him.

 

[TooManyHumans]

Weird take on Andersen IMO. He stole PLENTY of games from 2016-2019 and unfortunately he's started to cost his team multiple times with soft goals over the past 2 years.

If he can stay healthy and play closer to his early Leaf career level then you guys will have a stud that can steal games, but the one thing I WOULDN'T call signing Andersen at this time in his career is a safe bet.


Edit: I'll add that if he's fully healthy, I'll expect a good season from him. I just don't agree that he "won't win or lose you games" since he tends to make fantastic saves and also let in some stinkers.

I guess my thought was that yes, he will let in a stinker but he will also stop some he probably shouldn't. I think they wash out overall. I think the only year he was bad in the playoffs was 2017-18 and the only time I really thought he was special was a couple years prior. Anyway, I don't really disagree with you. I think he is fine at this point. I wouldn't expect him to be the reason you advance but I also wouldn't expect him to be the reason you are eliminated.

 

[Richardbro]

Andersen is a great goalie, I have been a fan since his days in Anaheim. When healthy, he will get you a lot of wins and get you in the playoffs. But once he is in the playoffs, he plays great until elimination games. Then you will see a disaster. Happened in both Anaheim and Toronto. I honestly don't think you can win a cup with this guy, he cracks too much under pressure. Best of luck Andersen and Carolina.

 

[sandybridge]

He's a fine regular season goalie.

The question is whether he will bomb in the first round again. So far no evidence to the contrary.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Andersen has deteriorated significantly the last couple of seasons, and at the best of times, he would always choke under pressure.

Unless he is rejuvenated in a new environment and can discover an untapped ability to the perform in the clutch, this will not end well for Canes fans.

 

[AvroArrow]

Great pickup if true. That team desperately needed goaltending and Andersen is elite (despite what the Toronto media say).Under $6m is a steal.

LOL.

Andersen is garbage and has been garbage for the past 2.5 years. He might've been elite at some point, but right now lmao not even close. He's a low end starter at best.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I for one always thought Toronto sucked the life out of Andersen with their horrible defense over the years.

Freddy should thrive in CAR.

The Leafs defense has been good the last few years. Andersen actually does way better when he gets more shots on him. He was much better under worse defense 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[spockBokk]

The Leafs defense has been good the last few years. Andersen actually does way better when he gets more shots on him. He was much better under worse defense 3 or 4 years ago.

With CAR’s new look D, he’ll likely get pelted with rubber some nights so no worries there. I like the gamble on Andersen. Even with his lackluster season last year and recent poor playoff appearances, he is the closest the Canes have had to a true #1 in years.

Would I rather have them paid Nedeljkovic and brought in Raanta as the 1B…yes. But I can get on board with what they’ve done in goal.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

With CAR’s new look D, he’ll likely get pelted with rubber some nights so no worries there. I like the gamble on Andersen. Even with his lackluster season last year and recent poor playoff appearances, he is the closest the Canes have had to a true #1 in years.

Would I rather have them paid Nedeljkovic and brought in Raanta as the 1B…yes. But I can get on board with what they’ve done in goal.

It seems like the Canes and Leafs swapped goalies who are very similar. Very hot and cold goalies who, if their head isnt in it, they stink. Freddy will look like a Vezina candidate for a month or two, absolutely stealing games. Then he turns into five-hole Freddy and you question if hes an AHL goalie. He also takes a long time to get going. You're going to wonder why you signed him the first month or so every season.

 

[spockBokk]

It seems like the Canes and Leafs swapped goalies who are very similar. Very hot and cold goalies who, if their head isnt in it, they stink. Freddy will look like a Vezina candidate for a month or two, absolutely stealing games. Then he turns into five-hole Freddy and you question if hes an AHL goalie. He also takes a long time to get going. You're going to wonder why you signed him the first month or so every season.

Hopefully Raanta comes into camp healthy in case Andersen has a Leafs-hangover.

I like the Mrazek move for TOR too. Last year before he got hurt, he had 3 shutouts in his first 4 games. The guy can get in a zone and nothing will get past him, but like you’re saying with Andersen, he can go from a brick wall to a sieve quickly. Regardless of how he’s playing, he will always give his max effort. I think that’s why he was so endearing to fans in Raleigh. The dude always left it all out on the ice.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

because the offense, hid the problems obviously

This is a horrificlly bad take. Andersen hasnt been 'the guy' to carry a team for 2 yrs now. Notoriously slow starter, has had several injuries the last 2 yrs, and was outplayed by a career backup (who put up sparking numbers, mind you). Andy at this point, unless there is some type of career resurgence, is a leauge average goalie. No; he IS NOT worse OR better from leaving toronto, but hey- what would people that work in hockey know about hockey players??

 

[tkb81]

This is a horrificlly bad take. Andersen hasnt been 'the guy' to carry a team for 2 yrs now. Notoriously slow starter, has had several injuries the last 2 yrs, and was outplayed by a career backup (who put up sparking numbers, mind you). Andy at this point, unless there is some type of career resurgence, is a leauge average goalie. No; he IS NOT worse OR better from leaving toronto, but hey- what would people that work in hockey know about hockey players??

Some of my best friends work in hockey

 

[AcerComputer]

Should have just paid Ned $3m x 2. Makes no sense.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Is there an known reason they would want Andersen at $4.5M over Ned at $3M?

Seen that point mentioned but hadn't seen any reason offered.

For reasons known only to them, they believe Ned’s play last year was more than likely a fluke, and he wouldn’t pan out as a starter in the long run. So they weren’t comfortable giving him what they consider to be “starter money”.

So at that point, it was basically about finding a trading partner, and since Ned has a girlfriend in med school in Michigan, they did him a solid and dealt him to Detroit.

 

[GoCanes2015]

People ragging on Anderson/Ranta, but most of those discussions reference what a great signing Kuemper was, or how it's a downgrade from Mrazek/Ned - but Kuemper, Mrazek, Anderson, Ranta, Ned - out of all of them only Anderson has played more than about 1 full season - Ned might have been a one and done. Kuemper has been as fragile as Ranta. Mrazek, too. Canes probably got better in net with these moves, but no one seems to believe it.

 

[KingJoffrey]

Andersen's last year numbers only look bad, because they forced him to play when he were injured. Kyle Dubas and Keefe were so desperate that they played goalie with ongoing knee injury.

If Andersen had that .915 what he had before injuries the whole narrative that he sucks drops.

He's bit injury prone, but still very good. I'm willing to take a bet that he finishes top 5 Vezina voting.

 

[Stubu]

Revisiting this, it seems Andersen has so far exceeded some expectations expressed in this thread last year, including "garbage" and "low end starter".

Early days still in the new team, and only the playoffs really count, but he seems to be doing fine.

35/48 GP, 26-7-2, 2.10 GAA, .927 save ratio